J_Crews
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They've never said, but she was 12-13 in the book, I think. She seems 15-16 to me in the show, and the actress is 16. All the kids are aged-up from what they were in the books.
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I guess so. I was thrown by her first flowering, but I guess it isn't unheard of for a girl to have it later than the average age.
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They'll capture Quorin; he and Jon will talk, he'll instruct Jon to kill him, blah blah blah. All ends the same.
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The Quorin thing is still happening, according to episode summaries.
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Me too.
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All the kids are aged-up, except, apparently, Sansa.
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No, but she knows for a fact that if he dies, the girls die.
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Osha isn't the one in his bed in the book; it's just some random girl he's using for a bed-warmer. The show combined them, both to give Osha more to do as well as to avoid casting another actress whose salary would needlessly eat budget $$$. He used her marriage for the trick, but he intended to offer her to Dorne all along. In the book, he stays with Pycelle until the raven is sent. Thus far, Dorne has stayed out of the war and he's trying to win their spears for the Lannister side. Cersei is Regent, but Tyrion is the Hand of the King, and she can't rescind the offer without insulting Dorne -- Joff is underage, so they both overrule him, but he couldn't care less about Myrcella anyway.
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I don't see why that matters. He wants a Reek, he has Theon, ergo Theon becomes his Reek. All the subtle nuance is cool and everything, but the showrunners are constrained by real-world issues such as a limited budget.
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All it changes is him pretending to be Reek to avoid being killed by Ser Rodrik, which would be pretty difficult to explain seeing as how the series has never mentioned anything about him forcing Lady Hornwood to marry him, then starving her to death to get her lands, or his "hunting" of peasant girls, nor of Ser Rodrik being sent to arrest him in the first place. Ramsay can still be the same soulless, flay-happy monster as always, with or without the initial Reek deception. Very insignificant deviation.
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double post. server errors. grrrrrrr
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Except for the way I've explained it 3 times already earlier in the thread, you mean.
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Agreed. He's too old, in my estimation, to be Roose's son. The actor was 41 when filming most of these scenes. They've just consolidated the characters of Dagmer and Ramsey as he was when pretending to be Reek, most likely because they didn't want to yank budget funds from "Blackwater" to pay another actor's salary when, by doing it this way, they don't have to cast Ramsey until next season at the earliest.
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Like I said, I only disliked her briefly, and, even then, only for the stuff concerning Jon. Otherwise, I liked her fine.
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And an even more awesome shot of the ruined majesty of Harrenhal.
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I only hated her a little when reading AGoT, before we really got to know her better as a character; but, even then, it was just because of how poorly she treated Jon. Her reasons for disliking him are very human and understandable, but I still find it irrational to mistreat a kid because of things that are totally out of his control i.e. the manner of his own birth. Instead of being mad at Ned, she turned all that poison on the boy and made him feel unwanted his whole life when she had it within her power to make him think of her as his mother instead.
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The RW will happen next season. Count on it.
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They've specifically stated this as a fact.
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This is like the 3rd time I've said this in the thread, but... It's different from the book, because in it Karstark was away with Robb. In the show, he's there, drinking and stewing, and the whole camp is like a pot boiling over. Jaime isn't going to survive the night if she doesn't get him out of there. The only way not to have done it this way would've been to have Kastark away with Robb (like in the book), but that would've delayed Jaime's release until at least next week; which would've thrown a wrench in the plan they talked about months ago of moving some of Jaime's ASoS arc up into this season in order to give NCW something to do this season.
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I'm assuming he'll take his rage out on some other captives, just like in the book. We haven't seen them but we know, from the dialogue, that there are a plethora of them for him to slaughter.
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The actor who plays Dagmer was born in Dec. 1969, so he's 42. How old is the guy who plays Roose?
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He's writing episode 7 of Season 3, not Season 2.
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Thought he was only writing episode 9 "Blackwater."
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It's just to get the girls back, having lost the boys (or so she believes).
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As I stated earlier, the difference between the book and the show is that, in the book, Karstark is off on the march with Robb. We don't see his hatred until she's released Jaime. In the show, Robb is gone but Karstark is there, a direct threat. Everyone is getting drunk and increasingly rowdy, and it's quite obvious Jaime will not live out the night unless she takes a hand and gets him out of there.
