Lady Fevre Dream

No I didn't. That is PERFECTION, especially for me, a Jersey Girl!! Thank you. :cheers:

It's hard not to look at the overkill of sexual violence and human degradation that is the Craster's Keep subplot nonsense without noticing that even the gods awful rapists looked bored with the rape scenes. They looked more bored and fed up with it than I did. I'm not sure that it was even needed for Bran warging Hodor, that's already happened in the show.

Sacrilege, I tell ya!! :lmao:

There seem to be a lot of assumptions about book readers in that one sentence. First off, complaints don't necessarily mean one finds something 'ruined.' Not all of us anyway. Maybe I'm just complex, but I can enjoy the show for it's own sake, realize I have too many expectations and try to temper them (sometimes successfully and sometimes not), compare it both pro and con to the books, appreciate something great or just fun regardless of who did the actual original writing in book or for screen, and still...........manage to notice when the show runners totally........FOOK IT UP!!!!! Many complain about the blanket statements of book walkers and how they seem to perceive show only watchers, but honeslty....the hyberbole goes both ways. I suspect many of us are somewhere inbetween. I enjoyed lots about the episode, but I also see the pile up of bad decisions made over the seasons that hurt this visit to the Wall and only the Wall.

LOL I do kinda agree with this. There's a bit too much glamouring and resurrection all over the place as the books continue. Granted, on one hand it's provided some interesting dilemmas, but on the other hand.........it's getting cheesy. Also, it contributes to way too much crackpottery as we wait for the books.

THIS!! I did hold out hope that it would be a better season for Stannis this year, not realizing how they'd delay lots of the Wall happenings. If it doesn't start getting rectified next episode and next season, I'm gonna have to go with......there's something to the hate theory. Honeslty, part of me does think if Stannis wasn't still moving serious plot and armies in TWOW chapters, he might have already been killed off in the show. Eh, the cast is going to be mighty depopulated soon, and has been this year, maybe Stannis will get his chance, I hope so. I'm dying for the double straight man comedy team of Stannis and Jon. That is priceless.

To the bolded, ITA, he's an amazing Alester (spelling? too tired to care) and I cannot say how much I resent the fact that this terrific actor actually made me pause and rewind on my first watch....just so I could be sure it was NW men dragging him off, LOL I can't believe I cared enough to do that. I do wonder if his injury means that Thorne may take some of the future Bowen Marsh duty. That would totally fuck up The Ides of Marsh, LOL Grenn and the actor both are amazing and that makes me pissed that he had to take the Donal Noye death. Loosing both Pyp and Grenn when they still live in the books shows that the show has not developed enough of the minor characters up at The Wall. I'm still going to miss Jon and Tormund drinking to Ygritte and to Mag the Mighty and The One Armed Smith.

Damn, I wish I was bilingual, I'm sure you are tossing out some good ones. I can't believe this and it's hard to say that it's for any other reason than Stannis doesn't mean much to them. Hell, they'd have killed him off by now, too, if he wasn't still making stuff happen in TWOW chapters, sorry to say.

He seemed to be dragged off still injured, by NW men, I think?

they are all alive in the books, I'm not certain how Alister is on the show. I am pissed at the Grenn thing, I thought Alistar might stop him and go in his place? After Pyp, who never was book Pyp, I thought good ole Grenn had a chance. Damn, no Stannis, people are gonna freak.

I just popped in for the OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG of that. YIKES!!~!~

Good points, but I have to laugh at the fact that their rewrite of the Jaime and Tywin and Tyrion deal only lasted for what? one half of the episode, if that? LOL

LOL It sounded like something in between Hallellujah and HODOR!! I'm doing mostly prefight Oberyn oogling. ;)

~Big Squishy Hug~ I must confess, I was also dawdling over Oberyn gifs, LOL ;)

LOL I was just off looking for fun stuff like that, thank you!! I saw a terrific drawing yesterday of GRRM smashing character faced beetles, now I can't find it. :tantrum: Found this, though http://i.imgur.com/fmNn1C4.jpg

Samuel L Jackson might come looking for you.

Not a fan of the beetle speech, especially the length of it, but I do have to give up the laugh for a good joke. Besides, I'm a David Attenborough fan. :bowdown: :lmao:

Oh, I'm rewatching too, eventually. I just need to steel myself for it. On another note, I did want to say that I loved Arya laughing. I don't think it was hahahaha......all my family is dead, it was like hahahahaha.......this shit always turns out the same kind of thing. I'm going to be ready to face the epi again soon, I think.

Hmmmmmmmmm, good point or was it a shoutout to TVJaime's killing of Cousin Alton? Or both?

I can usually take gore, somewhat, it's more so the outcome of the duel that has me not quite ready to watch it again, yet. On the gore point, I think it is good to leave some to the imagination. The SOUND the teeth made dropping was horrifying, but by the end of the scene, after the eye gauging....I think it started to become a bit unrealistic. Still, the effects were better than some of the previous seasons with the hacking people in half stuff. I think a good mixture of gore and imagination is best. Still, it's moreso the losing of Oberyn that I'm not ready to face, again. I'm still in awe how much Pedro Pascal's Oberyn has only multiplied my affection. Besides, I'm sure a rewatch will bring extra bitching from me, LOL (beetles, I'm looking at you) as well as extra enjoyment, not to mention.....the sadness, LOL Thanks for the new link, too, though.

Thank you for posting that. I haven't been able to bear watching the show again, and I usually would have by now OnDemand, and therefore, I'd have seen the Inside the Episode by now, too. Thanks. I was concerned how much Inside the Epi would show (as I am not quite ready to rewatch it in it's entirety yet), luckily.....it didn't show much more than the leg pull and Ellaria's scream.

That's one of my favorite observations of Jaime's. He thinks something along the lines of It's Gregor Clegane with a pelt, probably smarter, too. Something like that.

It's not THE brothel, but luckily, they didn't try to fit everything in the episode. I will admit, I was a little scared for Gilly and the baby for a second there. For a split second, I was concerned considering all the posts about an extra death this season.

Yeah, that one, too, LOL I thought we could all use some help with the horror of it all.

I haven't even started to tackle this thread yet, but I thought some posters might enjoy this..........GOT epi by pic and captioning. My fav might be I WILL KILL YOU WITH CANON BOOK QUOTES BITCH!! LOLLLLLLLLLLL http://maisiewilliams.tumblr.com/post/87569966119/what-you-missed-on-4x08-of-game-of-thrones