Lady Fevre Dream

Agreed. He didn't say anything but I read that look it as him thinking about Tysha and almost telling Tyrion. I guess they have to save that for his release to get him very angry?

I do think they are saving Jaime's confession and truth telling for the last jailbreak scenes. That look, quick as it was though, seems to indicate that it's coming. Hell, look at all the book dialogue and rich guy clothes they gave to Bronn for their last scene. All these type of things add up to me thinking it will happen. Damn, NCW can act, I'm still amazed at all I read into that one look. I don't think it was my imagination or my wishful thinking, I try to keep my expectations manageable.

didnt notice that. im gonna go watch that again

I can't say for certain what it means, but I thought Nikolai gave a heartbreaking, but quick, guilty look. Hell, I was wondering if he'd spill it right then and there.

When I saw that I was instantly reminded of Joff's trolling "Thank you Uncle, we all need wisdom now that the war is over....OMG A VALYRIAN STEEL SWORD! FUCK THAT! *SLICE*" I remember all my unsullied friends being like "Wait wut...Ah that's more like it."

I have noticed that the show does go for the trolling approach with dialogue and actions like Joffrey in the scene you mentioned. It works well, sometimes really well. I love all of TVRoose's extra troll acts, too.

I will fetch ME Own block ;)

As awesome as The Edd, you are. :bowdown:

Also just a suggestion, not sure if any ones mentioned this yet but could Sana reveal to the lords declarants that she is not in fact his niece, but his bastard and this knowledge may have some how unhinged lysa into jumping. Just a thought I can see something along those lines happening

Hmmmmmmm, that's actually a very interesting idea, but I can't see Sansa pulling that off, unless LF has already fed her the story behind the scenes. I can't guess where they are going with this Marillion (or a stand in for him) absence from the story.

all could definitely happen; not sure how they will play him accompanying Jamie but anything is possible with the exception of anyone threatening again to turn Ghost into STEW... :P

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, no more stew cracks.

Bronn didn't kill Falyse in the end, but the line about an accident happening to her is from that scene in the book.

I couldn't quite remember all the exact musings from Bronn in the book during his visit with Tyrion, but did think I posted that I thought he might have said something along those lines. For all the lightening up they do of Bronn (which doesn't bother me), the delivery of that line and the show using it just make me suspect that D&D might make things in the future at Stokeworth go down a certain way, that's my main issue with it, and with the way it was done. We'll see, they love Bronn on the show, as do I, maybe I'm worrying about nothing. I do have to admit, I wonder about Lady Tanda's 'fall' from the horse and the implication of a worn out strap, and how Bronn fits into it. But, the thing is, still, regardless of Tanda (who Bronn didn't need to get rid of, who he needed to get rid of was Falyse, so I hope Book Bronn IS innocent, I hope, LOL), I worry what that line says about the direction the show will move with the storyline points. That and their tendancy to whitewash Cersei is why it now has me worried, just a little.

I don't get that either he pretty much told Tyrion he would drop his drawers and screw Lolys if that it was a choice between doing that and fighting the Mountain. I adore Bronn both book and series; he also names his child Tyrion just to piss off Cersei :). That was rich!

LOL, I agree, I'm hopeful that ShowBronn will be the father himself now, it seems. I think it was important, the naming, it was Bronn's way of saying he still did have some loyalty to Tyrion, maybe was glad he escaped, and it certainly served by pissing Cersei off. Bronn's delivery is just a bit darker in the books, that's the main difference. I love,too, that ShowBronn was the guy who could pronounce the name of the snooty author of that book. That was a nice touch for the tv character, that and his explainations about what war is really like, sieges included. I'm actually really surprised that Bronn did get the Lollys treatment already, as I was wondering if he'd accompany Jaime. Still, I suppose Bronn could be part of Cersei's KL paranoia storyline now. I don't ever complain about extra Bronn on the tv show.

The line that made me laugh the most in the whole series was from the Davos chapter:

"Lord Wyman was looking down at Rhaegar as if he were a roach in need of a hard heel"

My favorite chapter in the series hands down. Pure awesome from front to back. Willa's outburst in defense of Stannis. Davos calling BS on the Freys: "What would a Frey know of honor?" "Set Jared I name you liar."

Especially when you get to the Theon chapter when Wyman lies to the Frey's in front of the Boltons and tells them how fond he has grown of the Frey's at White Harbor especially Rhaegar.

Lol calling Robb Stark a vile dog in front of Wyman. I bet Rhaegar did not die well. No sir.

The North remembers.

One hundred times........YES, YES, YES!! That is one of my all-time favorite lines. Hell, I love that line so much.......I'm sure that it has been responsible for at least one reread of ADWD. Tis all. :bowdown:

ETA: Okay, not all. I not only love that line and chapter, I love Davos's entire dungeon tour in the books. It is one of the highlights and has been responsible for getting me through rereads, if not starting them altogether.

I will say, not that it's terribly important, but Bronn's book line about icing Falyse really didn't work for the character as developed in the show. He's been made a bit too much of a cheerful rogue. There was a kind of nastiness to the book version that is just absent from Flynn's portrayal of him.

I didn't like the way the line about Falyse was delivered (or the fact that it even existed) but for different reasons. BookBronn is not the one who hurt Falyse, Cersei set all that in motion. The only thing we cannot be sure of is what happened to Lady Tanda, the first fall and the eventual death, but.....old ladies do fall and die from broken hips all the time. Who's to say that Bronn had anything to do with it. It could have been drunken Falyse with the intitial bump of her mother down the stairs.

I don't understand why some think that BookBronn betrayed Tyion anyway. He really wasn't required to die for him, and Tyrion himself understood it. It's just the show has a bit of lighter tone with Bronn's darkest side. For the most part, I was pleased with the cells scenes on the show, I guess I need to double check and see if BookBronn made anykind of cracks like that, that sounded soooooooooooooooooo obvious, anyway. I pretty sure he did, can't say I remember the exact wording, though. I do remember Tyrion wondering if Cersei realized what kind of serpent she is sending to the Stokeworths. It's the manner of dialogue delivery that, at times, makes Bronn seem lighter on the show, but lots of it is similar to the book. It just pisses me off that he seems to be given the blame already for the later mess at Castle Stokeworth when it was Evul Cersei, LOL

ETA: Oops, just remembered, Lady Tanda had an accident with the horse and saddle straps or some such. The old ladies down the stairs came from more modern issues, although......Maester Cressen certainly worried about them.

Time for Me to Fly by REO Speedwagon.

I knew it was me, not her, but thanks for reminding me of who did the song. I couldn't not sorta hear the music in my head as I was typing the line, Time for her to fly.

Another topic, does anyone else thing it's significant that Daario called Jorah "Jorah the Andal"?

Hmmmmmmm, I did notice that and now I do wonder. Haven't the Dothraki been the only ones to call him that? I could see Daario picking that up from what little is left of the khalasar, but now I'm curious if there is, or will be, more to it?

Given how they are managing with the best one liners, I pretty much expect Jon next season to say "Ed, please fetch me a block of wood so I can chop off this mans head".

I'm resigning myself to the fact, LOL and :tantrum:

I'm hoping to see Jaqen with his new face taking care of Balon.

Nah, nah, nah. I'm hoping to see THE Jaqen face being worn while taking out Balon. :drool: It would be funny, though, if the fall did come right after a........no way would the Lady Lysa fall, drunk or crazy, maybe they just think the girl had coordination? LOL

That reminds me, GRRM was on Conan (who's a big fan of the show) a few days ago and he mentioned Ser Pounce, and how everyone loved it and how big he was. Conan and Andy were like "Err, what the hell is Ser Pounce?" And GRRM just kind of sat their looking awkward.

LOL and thanks for that. I saw the Conan commercial with GRRM, but haven't watched the segment yet. I need to check that out, thanks again. :cheers:

I don't buy that argument. The same argument can be made if one wants to nitpick Cersei calling Jaime the Lord Commander, instead of Jaime or brother. It's just book readers clawing for straws.

While I'm not a purist who flips out at everything, while I do my best to go with the flow and enjoy the show (hell, I LMAO at Robb and Talisa and love at first sight over an amputation and dream up scenes of them and Ramsey being jealous, not to mention, you KNOW that Robb would have loved to watch Talisa at least do the Qyburn job on Jaime's hand), I don't think your example illustrates anything other than the point that how names or titles are used do mean something. Cersei is calling Jaime Lord Commander to establish distance between them, as each did many times in the books, such as Jaime using Your Grace with Cersei. That goes back and forth alot in the books, and it's them showing us, and each other, their developing distance. Just as 'only Cat' speaks of a man saying the name of the woman he claimed to love his whole life, who was on the show for three seasons and whose corpse will most likely be seen again.......instead of saying 'your sister' because, well, they don't seem to trust some with memory of details. FFS, if people, book readers or not, don't know who Catelyn Tully Stark was........they certainly don't know off hand who Lysa's sister is.

Not all complaints are because, OH NO........it's different from the books. And not all who complain......hate the show, they might just actually want to see it done a bit better. They may want D&D to have some trust in the viewers. They may want changes to actually be improvements or at least a draw. It's not always a declaration of war, it's just discussion.

The audience might have gotten confused though, they may have thought Littlefinger was saying he only loved cats.

And to think.........we might not get another Ser Pounce appearance, not to mention Lady Whiskers and Boots.

Am I the only one who was mispronouncing "Lollys" this whole time?

Lollys is one name I did have right, it's Rorge that I had wrong all along. Who knew, he may be the Westerosi equivalent of French?? Then again, that could be the American of my accent, I never expected that little French twist in his name.

they had the perfect chance for tyrion to talk about tysha, but they didnt have him bring her up. "i sould have never believed that a whore could love me." he should have said. , "i should have learned my lesson the first time"

im starting to think that they are dropping that whole thing.

also, fucking sansa!. that whole segment of th show was amazing. i'll even forgive the "your sister" because it was so good. the stark theme as she walsk out... so many feels. that kiss. ugh. poor sophie. must have been pretty awkward to film.

I'm not so sure they've dropped it, the look on Jaime's face when Tyrion said that almost broke my heart. Just a look, but it spoke volumes I thought.

That's an interesting observation that we'll have to keep an eye on.

I think that it had more to do with Lysa's reveal about Littlefinger's culpability in Arryn's poisoning and the letter to Catelyn two episodes ago, compounded with Lysa talking about it again in front of Sansa that forced Littlefinger to permanently shut her up.

I do think that it's up in the air, left up to Chaos as LF would say, about WHEN LF expected to get results out of Lysa seeing the kiss. I suspect that in the very least LF was setting up the jealousy to play up on Lysa's paranoia and then.......drop the bomb, errrrrrrr, drop her out the Moon Door. Then again, as I mentioned in another post, it could have ALL been a setup, Marillion included, with the singer always working for LF. While I do expect Marillion to meet the same fate as Dontos, it's hard to KNOW for sure, especially with Robert saying he still hears him in the night. It just all leaves me wondering........where was the setup, how far did it go, and I do agree, either way, that spiel by Lysa confirmed for LF that is was definately.................Time for Her to Fly. (Isn't that a song title?)

Yes Littlefinger was right it was something is Mother should of done a long time ago :). Just before he kicked in her castle I had turned to the hubby and said you know he doesn't seem as bad as in the book :P. He was like you still think that :)

LOL at the hubby. Yes, I was pleasantly surprised at the insta-pyscho. It does leave lots of promise for Sansa dealing with him now, too. I was worried that the show was going too Sweet with Robin. Perhaps it's about the age, too. Like Joffrey, he needs to be a bit of different type of brat. The kid is doing great with the role, too. He was terrific first season, but even without being around year after year like the other kids in the roles, he's doing great. He seemed like the same kid we met in the first season and it seemed effortless for him. Great job.

On a side note, I was a little weirded out the other week about how much Robin seemed to like Uncle Petyr, I'll have to wait and see where that goes.

Ooh, that's interesting! Never considered that. Though Martin's explanation of the scene makes it seem like LF was kind of just being a creep and fulfilling his teenage fantasies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtYhmD2TZs0

Thanks, I'll have to check that video out. I only caught the look because I already rewatched the episode this morning. Actually, I did catch Petyr's lack of looking lustful last night but then just became caught up in talking about the show in general at home and online.

I've always expected that scene to have some setup from LF...........can't say if he knew how far it would go immediately, but I suspect he knew Lysa had reappeared on the balcony. Besides, it's hard not to over suspect LF and Varys. I try to temper my suspicions, but hell, I'm still iffy on whether or not Marillion every really answered the call from The Blue. :dunno: :laugh:

Man, Thorne's an even bigger cuntbag in the show. Really like the actor tho, he does a good job and - unlike Slynt - he knows what he's talking about for the most part. Still, can't wait till she gets checked by Jon, along with kissass Slynt.

All of Tyrion's convos were great, especially the one with Oberyn.

And I lol'd at LF kissing Sansa. I didn't think they'd actually do it in the show.

Did anyone else notice that immediately after LF kissed her and she pulled away.........Petyr did not have a lovey-dovey face on, he didn't appear to be a man swept up in the moment, he looked as if he was coldly reading her and the reaction from her and/or from Lysa watching? I always suspected in the books that LF set that whole thing up (getting caught with the kiss, he knew it was time for Batshit Crazy Lysa to go),and I wonder......if LF's look immediately after the kiss (lacking a loving or lustful look on his face, in his eyes) was D&D's interpretation or do they have confirmation? I suspect, this is just an early instance of many questions like that as the show continues the next few years, LOL

I really don't understand why Tyrion did not ask Bronn about his betrayal on shipping off Shae. They just skipped over that. It's a hole in the plot.

Immediately in the wake of Joffrey's death, Tywin ordered the port sealed as Cersei ordered Tyrion's arrest. I've suspected all along that we will find out that Shae's ship may have just been taken during the all around port closure. Sansa was taken further out on the water to meet LF's ship. Still, I suppose Bronn could have been followed, I don't think he actually gave up Shae to Tywin and Cersei, though. Certainly not before Joff's death. I was pleasantly surprised at the Bronn marrying Lollys, I'm glad they kept it.

Oh I can't wait for Throne and Slynt to get theirs how dare he threaten to make Ghost stew.. Bastard.

Anyone else cheer when Sansa smacked Sweetrobin in the face....

and so they changed it a little bit to your Sister instead of only Cat, I was more creeped out by Sansa getting her kiss...

That was an amazing slap from Sansa. Sweet Robin did pretty good on the quickly emerging pyscho, too. Sophie did haul off and give him a good one. :bowdown: :lmao: :thumbsup: