Istari

Thanks for clearing that up Marie!

Now I'm confused..... if she is impervious to fire then 'things that have been caught on fire' shouldn't burn her either.... But, on the other hand, if she is is not impervious to fire, then being burned by the whip she was holding would make sense....

That's a good point. IIRC, Cat mentions on several occasions that 'Robb is so much like his father'. In the show, on the other hand, he is nothing like Ned (in my opinion), which is disappointing for the reason you mentioned: his likeness to Ned's character is a theme throughout the first three books

No problem :) I'm pretty sure that within the SSM archives GRRM mentions that the Pyre burning was a one-timer and under special circumstances. But, it is also very possible that Dany may be impervious to 'regular fire', but vulnerable to Dragon's fire.

I'm pretty sure her hands are burned as well: page 929, aDWD (my copy): "Her skin was pink and tender, and a pale milky fluid was leaking from her cracked palms, but her burns were healing"

Really? I felt the complete opposite. I thought the entire episode rushed

IIRC, in ADWD she is burned by Drogon in the fighting pit.

As a whole, I was really underwhelmed by the episode. As for the individual story arcs, I understand why some changes were made. But it still doesn't mean I like them. To be more specific: 1.The House of the Undying scene was terrible. Obviously, as a book reader, I was disappointed with the lack of visions. But, I understand that the T.V audience wouldn't make sense of it. Still, I thought the scene was weak overall. They could have adapted it better. I thought her scene with Khal Drogo and her son wasn't necessary. The 'Dracarys' moment was weak too 2. Is it just me or was Jon and QH's scene not obvious enough - and by this I mean that their scene played out as if Jon killed QH as an accident in the midst of his rage. I'm just thinking for the non readers it may not be clear. What do you guys think? 3. I thought the Throne room scene was alright. Cersei and Joffery were well done in that scene, same with Sansa, Littlefinger and Margaery. 4. Theon in Winterfell was good. BUT, I really hope that wasn't Ramsay... it just would not make sense...so let's hope there is an explanation for all of that. My guess is that Dagmar (is that his name?) was corresponding with Ramsay and was instructed take over Theon's men and open the gates of Winterfell for the Bastard's arrival 5. Luwin's death scene was truly sad. 6. The attack of the wights/Others was how I imagined it would be (but I imagine that the non readers will say that HBO is copying The Walking Dead or something), but I think they failed to capture appearance, fierceness and overall scariness (for lack of a better word) of the Others. 7. Tyrion and Shae: non readers are going to shit themselves when she betrays him! I can't wait

Desperate times call for desperate measures? Just kidding, your analysis is spot-on

LeBronn Jamie pretty much nailed it Whether or not he offers to take her 'away' or 'to Winterfell', his motives are clear: He cares about Sansa, and wants her to be safe (note: I am using 'care' in the normal way, not the San/San ship way)

I hope he didn't have a change of heart..... the dynamic between the two of them is so interesting and important to Sansa's character development

That was fucking brilliant. It exceeded all my expectations Although the scene between Sandor and Sansa wasn't what San/San fans had hoped, I think it was perfect given the context of the show oh, fuck me

What's holding me back from the Dagmar = Ramsay theory is that he is hanging around the Iron Islands when we first encounter him I don't know how they can contort Dagmar's presence at Pyke into something not ridiculous - realistically he wouldn't just be 'at Pyke', nor would he have known that the Greyjoys were orchestrating attacks against the North (and subsequently iravel from the Dreadfort to Pyke in time to fuck shit up) Considering some of the changes made for the show, my guess is that Ramsay will take Winterfell sans the Reek impersonation edit: grammar

Hound, Mountain, Barristan the Bold

Okay, they really need to set it straight: is she Talisa? Or is she Jeyne Westerling Either way, I'm not feeling it. The romance between Robb and 'that chick' is just....pointless.

I agree. I think they've 'toned down' both Clegane brothers...

i agree - plot changes (while I certainly do not like them) I can get over - most of them are for the sake of time and maintaining the momentum of the story. BUT when they alter the essence of a character's nature? That I cannot accept. Though thankfully, we haven't had too many departures from the personalities we read in the novels. I think they've done a good job with Ygritte, despite all of this 'where are my brothers/you are my hostage' nonsense. The final scene at Winterfell was well done, in my opinion. And Maester Luwin's scream at the end was absolutely heart breaking. I know I've already complained about this... but I cannot accept that Lord Tywin and Arya would have a relationship of this kind - and him implying that he knows about her noble birth? What was that about?! Cersei is too sympathetic - another point that someone has already mentioned, but I agree with. The Cat/Jaime relationship (so far...) has been somewhat true too the essence of their relationship in ACOK Dany...oh Dany.... why have they portrayed her so...unqueenly? Though, I find the Qarth changes very fun Overall, great television, but a mediocre adaptation

seriously... though...what the fuck is going on

Valid point. But personally, I am not pleased with their relationship.

I agree Ser Hippie: Rose Leslie is doing a stellar job