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Erkan12

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  1. Erkan12

    Robert Baratheon - Not so bad after all

    Who could know what would happen in the future? They were already in the city, they could gain more support in time. Not talking about Stannis only, I am talking about what Renly does, he just stole his own brother Stannis's right to the throne for no reason, that's a problem, you said Robert did that, but Robert fought against another house, and the people he fought did terrible things to him and other people. What Stannis did to Renly exactly? Nothing. Yet Renly usurps his rights, if you think there will be no consequences for this crime then you're too naive. Renly is no Joffrey, but he is also a little shit. Renly was just a puppet at the hands of Tyrells, since they wanted a king to marry their daughter, Renly's purpose was just being a mate to the Queen. That doesn't make him a good king, especially not while he was also gay
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    Robert Baratheon - Not so bad after all

    They came to KL because Tywin was dead, and they started to whip High Septon on the streets, one way or another, it could happen in the future. If not by force, then by manipulating other people. Their enemies could manipulate others by using that Renly being a gay thing, to sum it up; Renly wasn't fit to rule. As for Stannis, I meant other lords would make a case against Renly, he is a guy who doesn't respect the line of succession for no reason, he would suffer the consquences in the future.
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    Dany should have been Queen for a season

    Robb died as a hero, they didn't change his character, not sure how that's comparable in here. Why do you need to see how Dany deals with the problems? You already did, by burning them. She doesn't have political skills, she can just use her army and her dragons to kill, that's it. Daario already said Dany isn't a ruler, she is a conquerer, she would be a cruel tyrant, we already know that.
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    Dany should have been Queen for a season

    Your reasoning is subjective, I am talking about the series dynamics, such as Varys's and Tyrion's view, or Barristan's or Jorah's etc. Tyrion's view about Dany has changed completely after the episode 5, Varys has seen it before, Tyrion suspected before but he didn't want to believe, as well as Jon didn't want to believe she would do that, after seing that, not even Jorah could defend Dany in that position, You're asking that the heroes of the show should work on how to defeat Dany for a whole season, that will just make it even worse, right now she is just a tragic character who was going good until the destruction and slaughter of KL, then they finished her shortly after, before she gets out of control. We already have main villains like Night King, Joffrey, Cersei, Tywin etc. Adding Dany into this group wouldn't make the story better imo, leave it as a tragic character, a fallen heroine. Because Dany had a lot of fans who are believing that she is a good person, I was not one of them, but they should respect that.
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    Robert Baratheon - Not so bad after all

    Yes, because he was in a secret sexual relationship with Loras Tyrell Which is a sin according the Faith of the Seven. It's hypocrisy to blame Robert for drinking and buying whores while Renly is doing the worse even before he becomes the king. Renly would be a puppet at the hands of Margeary Tyrell shortly because of that secret. Renly spoiled by Loras Tyrell, nothing more. As for the line of succession, not sure what you mean, everyone knew Stannis had the right, but Renly usurped his rights for no reason. Robert had plenty of reasons to rebel against the crown. Such as Aerys being a mad person and Rhaegar kidnaping his beloved. Renly stole Stannis's right without any logical explanation.
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    Robert Baratheon - Not so bad after all

    Indeed, as far as I see, Renly would be even a worse king than Stannis. He is corrupted as hell, and that shit doesn't even care about the line of succession. Donal Noye's categorization is very accurate; Robert was the true steel, Stannis was pure iron and Renly was just a copper; ''shiny, pretty to look at but not worth all that much at the end of the day.''
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    No one really cares about KL massacre

    Is that any different than what I said?
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    Dany should have been Queen for a season

    That would damage Dany's story even more. They stopped her before she goes too far, then people would even hate her not feel sorry for her. She was just a tragic figure, who desperately wanted the IT for right reasons, and then lost her control in the end and died for it. If she lasted another season as mad queen, then the goal would be how to defeat that enemy, like they tried to defeat Aerys and then Joffrey, and then Cersei, she has become one of these tyrants, but it didn't last long, and it shouldn't last long imo.
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    No one really cares about KL massacre

    I doubt that's the only reason, Jon understood that Dany isn't going to forgive anyone, and continue to burn everyone and even execute the surrendered prisoners all the same. But I agree if you say Arya, Sansa and the North was the most important reason, but surely not the only one.
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    No one really cares about KL massacre

    The majority of Westeros didn't believe in White Walkers for hundreds of years anyway, but they still kept the Night's Watch, for protecting the Wall from the wildlings and for sending away the men that they don't want to kill. Free Folk couldn't make it at the south of the Wall since northern lords wouldn't accept it, so, they returned there.
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    Robert Baratheon - Not so bad after all

    I don't remember that, but once he said he isn't giving up the crown because he was afraid of letting Joffrey run the things; ''I have dreamed of giving up the crown. Take ship for the Free Cities with my horse and my hammer, spend my time warring and whoring, that's what I was made for. The sellsword king, how the singers would love me. You know what stops me? The thought of Joffrey on the throne, with Cersei standing behind him whispering in his ear. My son. How could I have made a son like that, Ned?'' He realizes that Joffrey is a huge threat, but still can't get rid of him because of Cersei I guess.
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    Robert Baratheon - Not so bad after all

    Not sure if you've seen, I said the same almost a week ago. Everyone we know was corrupted because of the Iron Throne, it's almost like the Ring from the LotR. But Robert resisted it, probably through drinking a lot.
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    Are the starks finished?

    Sansa is the Queen without having a late King husband, she can take a husband and her husband can take her name. Sansa probably marries with a northerner noble and that noble takes her name. Or, Arya and Jon can have bastard born children, and Sansa can legitimize them.
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    No one really cares about KL massacre

    Of course they care, otherwise Yara and Dorne wouldn't go along with sending Jon to the Night's Watch, as Sansa said their argument was ''Jon killed a Tyrant'', otherwise they had no argument there to defend Jon for killing their Queen. Perhaps Unsullied agreed with that for that reason only. As for Jon and Tyrion, that's the only reason why they killed their Queen, as Tyrion says Dany killed more people in one day than all the people that Tywin and Cersei killed.
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    Edmure Should Have Got It

    That's exactly that means according to Blackfish. They know nothing about orders and chain of command, they are just bullshitting because of their Robb hate Blackfish knows what it meant.
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