Harrad
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Its all good...except...I'm disappointed that all the big events occur off-screen. They need to up their CGI budget in the Batlle of Blackwater mode...maybe use a bit of the renderman LOTR software to get some scope to the events. It seems a bit claustrophobic. For example, the huge White Walker army at the end of Season 2. From what we can see, most of the NW are walking casually back to Wall. Seems to me that battle could have been "easily" CGI-ed. Not too hopeful of any future scope to the visuals.
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Hmmm...that was a pretty vivid hallucintion in season 1. If Jaime was doing so well I wonder why his man had to hamstring Ned from behind? Jes sayin
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If true as I read in other places, say goodbye to Gendry.
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Ned Stark had a good go at him and Jaime's man had to stab him from behind to stop that fight. Brienne also gave him all he could handle, with the ready excuse for him that he had been resting in captivity.
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Not true. There isn't a single movie taken from a book that doesn't change, compress, consolidate the action and characters in the book. The criterion for judging the movie is whether it is true to the book, or even provides insights that weren't evident in the book. With 10+ hours/book HBO has more of an opportunity to tell the story of the book and does a good job. Some of the criticisms online admit they are nitpicking. Others think they are not. But they are. I don't speak for anyone else and I don't appreciate others speaking for me. For me the HBO series provides a good visualation and characterization of the books, with more to come.
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Perfect name for him.
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How quickly they forget. Stannis owes any claim he has to be King to Robert for actually deposing a real King and his regime, the Targaryans. Robert was a better warrior than Stannis and a better general, for example, by inspiring loyalty in great allies like Ned Stark. Stannis can't even win a battle against Tyrion Lannister (who held him off until the cavalry came), and the only reason he could challenge at KL is because he used the Sorceress to murder his younger brother. Stannis improves in subsequent books with his (somewhat surprising) foray north of the wall and his campaign south of the wall. However he would make a terrible King and I don't suspect GRRM will give him the chance to be one.
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"Interesting possibity = no possibility of being true, since it contradicts my phoney baloney logic." I do believe.
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Her theory is entirely in keeping with my comment that it made no sense for Sansa to give the same wish to Tyrion as to Joffrey and it directly contradicts your pretzel logic.
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Ha Haha. I pointed out how you first said Sansa knew Tyrion was manipulating her and thus condemned him to death in battle, and you then said she couldn't know what he was thinking. That's called a self-contradiction. The other things attributed to me are your invention. Now, and this is the piece de resitance, you admit that BlueQueen's theory is an interesting possibility, again contradicting yourself. Why should I get involved in your self-argument?
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Guru Meditation is an error notice displayed by early versions of the Commodore Amiga computer when they crashed. I had no idea that Amigas were still hosting websites.
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What's ridiculous is to think that Sansa Book is so opposite to Sansa HBO that they would have the opposite reactions to the same situation. Look at BlueQueen's comment for something that makes sense. [sense alert]
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There you go. That makes sense if they were sharing the jibe. That's possible but subtle.
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Slight change: She wants Tyrion dead instead of praying for him to live. Thanks for helping me to understand.
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Maybe you should read your posts again. She should condemn him because he is trying to manipulate her by helping her. Nothing worse than that. Yet she has no idea why he is trying to manipulate her, for example, to trade her for Jaime, a good thing, so she shouldn't have sympathy for him. Air tight.
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All right! With the understanding that there are two entirely different characters Sansa Book and Sansa HBO, then I willingly agree that the opposite rings true for the two very different creations. Both characters are the eldest daughter of Ned Stark, betrothed to Joffrey Baratheion, held hostage at KL, abused by the King, taunted by the Queen, befriended by Tyrion and on and on and on...but really they are opposites. (Light bulb goes on!)
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According to you she knows Tyrion is trying to ingratiate himself for ulterior motives and she should condemn him to death. According to Miryana he wants to better the chances of getting back Jaime, i.e. an ulterior motive. Now you say she does not know. Can you keep your objections consistent? Or since logic doesnt matter, do I have to concede this as well?
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Here's another WAY of looking at it. Sansa is the same in book and series. GRRM wanted to put a pithy line in her mouth. And the people who want to make "sense" of it, bend logic into a cinammon pretzel to do so.
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Exactly! And that is why she shouldnt condemn him to death with a pithy quote in the same way she condemns good ole Joff.
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Great! so the opposites, and written by the same person, both make sense. That's called having it your own way, both ways, and every which way. I now see the error of MY way.
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And that implies that the book doesn't make sense for you? Or both make sense? If a thing and its opposite make sense, why bother arguing about what makes sense?
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I don't think that quote is in the book. If it were that would not make it more sensible. If its not, as I believe, than it was added for TV. As I said before its a nice throw away line, but doesn't correctly reflect what a reasoning Sansa should think. The motives for putting a line in a mouth are not the same as what is sensible in every case.
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That sort of reasoning works if everything in a fictional work makes sense.
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"Blindly trusting"? Is that the alternative to wishing the same fate on Tyrion as on Joffrey? They are not even fighitng the Starks. They are fighting Stannis who according to Cersei will kill Sansa as he kills the Lannisters. That is not so far-fetched as Stannis considers the Starks traitors. Look what Stannis does to traitors such as his younger brother.
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The lines in the series show that Sansa puts Tyrion in the same boat as Joffrey. That is just wrong. Joff is not trying to manipulate her. He is trying to hurt her. If she believes Tyrion has some alternative motive for helping her, thats ok. He is still helping her. Its time for some shades of grey if she is to become something more than a naive (dumb) kid.
