Ser Scot A Ellison

You aren’t answering my question. Goebbles was a propagandist he’s more akin to cigarette ads than 80s and 90s police movies. Goebbels intended to manipulate. As such judging his actions is very different from looking

You aren’t answering my question. Goebbles was a propagandist he’s more akin to cigarette ads than 80s and 90s police movies. Goebbels intended to manipulate. As such judging his actions is very different from looking Donner’s “Lethal Weapon” films. How are films contributing to societial violence?

Gorn, "Art has consequences, both intended and unintended". That statement implies that art is responsible for people actions. That drama portraying violence is the cause of violence. Now, you'll walk it back and say "it isn't responsible but it contributes to it". How? How does art contribute to violent situations? How do dramatic writings or visual presentations portraying violence contribute to real life violence?

Cigarette ads are expressly designed to make cigarette smoking appealing and to attempt to entice people to smoke cigarettes. Are you saying that movies "80s and 90s Cop movies" are expressly designed to make cops killing people appealing and attempting to entice people into becoming police officers so that they can kill people? As to your edit, I have no idea. Violence is part of drama. It has always been part of Drama. For the love of God Oedipus killed his father and married his mother in the "Oedipus Rex" trilogy of plays by Sophocles. Should that be banned because of its portrayal of family violence? Drama plays on conflict. Conflict frequently involves violence. Are you claiming that if people don't see violence portrayed in media that violence will be significantly reduced? I believe in strong regulation of firearms but to restrict the portrayal of violence with firearms in dramatic media be it television, movies, youtube videos, or books seems beyond the pale to me. I absolutely do not want Government to have the power to tell people what they may and may not write. That's where this is going. What can be written if we are going to take the position that anything written may encourage people to do things that we wouldn't want them to do in real life? How can you have any sort of drama if people portrayed only ever do the safe and kind thing. You have to have people doing things that injure or hurt others for drama to exist?

I can absolutely keep you and your family in my thoughts.

God be with you and your family during this incredibly difficult time. I wish all of you peace.

Gorn, Is it your contention that “but for” those cop movies of the 80s and 90s the police shootings of today would not be taking place?

I’m a Theistic evolutionist too. I have no problem believing in the Christian God and evolution.

“Only” has multiple meanings?

“Only the Sith deal in absolutes” is clearly self contradictory if the person making the statement is not a Sith.

I have. I’ve also heard about “the set of all sets not contained in a set”.

No. If “all things are relative” then relativity is within the set of all things that must be relative. This means that relativity itself (if all things are relative) must include some absolutes. It “all things are relative” is a self contradictory statement.

Not “something”. Saying “all things are relative” is an absolute statement.

Pretty much... saying something is a "copycat crime" absolutely does not make it so.