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Essan

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  1. When you think about it, yes, it was obvious the Gellers were Jewish.

    But, here in the UK, it simply didn't matter.   Ross mentions Hannukah and 5 minutes later we've moved on and his religion is totally irrelevant .....  

    If there was any stereotyping of Jews it went completely over the heads of most people - at the time, anyway.

  2. The other issue with "global warming" is that it's much more than just temperature - as we are seeing now, rainfall patterns are changing with more extreme flash floods and more prolonged drought.   Climate change encompasses that.  But yeah, it does then fall foul of the "but climate is always changing" argument.  

  3. 13 hours ago, Quijote Light said:

    Bella Flek and the Flektones in Atlanta. Pretty good show, and the first time I had a random stranger hand me a joint.

    For me, that was seeing Jethro Tull and Fleetwood Mac at Wembley Stadium in about 1991 - they didn't need dry ice; the stadium was full of cannabis clouds :D

  4. 4 hours ago, Buckwheat said:

    We changed it yesterday and now I have to go to work and the sun hasn't even risen yet. :angry: This is ridiculous.

    My workplace has ridiculous hours anyway. Starting classes at 7 AM for high schoolers is not in line with their biological clock, and I am pretty sure it is not in line with most of the adults' biological clock either.

    No, it's not.

    A good read on the subject here: 

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2022-03-26/daylight-saving-time-year-round-senate-health-sleep-metabolism/100927106

  5. 3 minutes ago, divica said:

    ok.

    If you prefer then. There must be events that can be interpreted as fulfiling the profecies. Therefore when you look back you must be able to say these characters did this so they may be AA/ptwp...

    In the books I am expecting several characters to do things that suggest they may have been AA/PTWP - and maybe at least one to be declared as such.   Not including Stannis.    But there won't be one single person who alone, and very obviously,  saves the world/ends the night as the prophecies suggest.    What is more important is how those who believe in the prophecies act beforehand, to (perhaps inadvertently) get all the right people into the right places so that they can play their individual small roles.  

     

  6. 2 minutes ago, divica said:

    If the events in the profecy happened then the profecy has come true… 

    Then some of Nostradamus's prophecies have come true numerous times ;)  

    But that's the thing with prophecies - they don;t say person A will do this exact thing and the consequence will be B; they are nebulous, open to interpretation.   And when an event happens some argue that it's a fulfillment of the prophecy.  Until another event occurs that also seems to fit it.   Hence all the discussion/argument here on what those in the books actually mean.  

  7. 1 minute ago, divica said:

    Come on… Don t you know why the targs leaft valyria? the duncan and egg profecies that have come true? The valoncar profecy? The house of the undying profecies that some of the events have already come true?

    It is a theme in asoiaf that true profecies always come true. The problem is that they dont  come true in ways that people expect.

    Writing a story full of prophecies and they always being false would be an awfull story...

    All subject to interpretation - as is the case in the real world. 

    As I said, people may convince themselves that a prophecy has come true.   But doesn't mean it has.   

  8. 29 minutes ago, divica said:

    profecies made by people that actually have the gift of profecy. They all come true...

     

    No, I think you miss the whole point.

    GRRM has made it quite clear all along that ASOIAF is not a generic fantasy about a prophecy and a hero who saves the day.  

    However, one of the main themes throughout (and back to events prior to the start of the first book) is how various people, who (mistakenly) do believe in prophecies, act, and the consequences of those actions.  

    It would have been a complete cop out and gone against everything GRRM has written if it all came down to Jon and/or Dany being the magical PTWP/Azor Ahai, exactly as per the prophecies, and saved the day.   Instead, they proved no different to anyone else and, in fact, never even had the chance.  

    Prophecies never come true*.....


    * although some may convince themselves they have, or manipulate events to give the appearance they have.



     

  9. I don't see a thread specifically about this, and apologies if it's already been discussed, but what do people make of Mel's comment to Ayra that they'll meet again? Where and when? In the books obviously they've never met and as it stands don't look like doing so. Is this perhaps a hint that Arya will be sent to assassinate Mel (given speculation she will be sent to take out someone in the 'Game')?

    Within the context of the TV series it would make sense since I can see Mel now being added to Arya's night-time list. Of course, the counter is that having met her, she now 'knows' Mel so might not be a viable assassin. Either way, it seems to me a possible foreshadowing of developments in later books?

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