The Grey Wolf

Though I like Shaera I personally wouldn't mind if GRRM changed her name to Alysanne. Oops. I forgot about Egg and Dany. I'd be surprised if Daemon didn't name one of his daughters after his own mother given what we know of him.

Thanks for clearing that up. Re splitting F & B V2: I agree. I was just throwing out my personal opinion.

@Ran So there isn't a top-secret Dayne family tree? Also, if you ask me, Fire & Blood Volume 2 should, like Volume 1, be cut in half, with Volume 2 covering Aegon III (post-regency) to Daeron II and Volume 3 Aerys I to Aerys II. Edit: Rhaenyra was originally married to a Lannister?! Damn!

I agree. It would have been nice for Jaehaerys to honor his father the way he honored his mother. Having said that why is there no princess or queen named after Alysanne?! Daena would make a better Blackfyre name than Rhaenyra if you ask me. As for Valerion, maybe he was named in honor of the Arryns? His name literally includes the word "vale" in it after all. Never thought about the lack of royal nicknames before. Apart from those three the only ones that spring to mind are Cat, Bran, and Gormy (which I find cuddly even though the character obviously isn't).

@Ran Has GRRM not written out a Blackfyre family tree? Also, apart from the family trees in TWOIAF and the top-secret Dayne lineage has he written out any other lines of descent?

Aemond is Daemon with the first/last letter switched, which makes perfect sense when you consider the fact that the former is almost a mirror image of the latter in his youth.

A Daenerys Blackfyre would be hilarious.

Aenar would be my choice personally but fair enough.

I must confess that the new Daenerys intrigues me. Revising the birth order and changing a name or two I could have seen coming but completely retconning a character out of existence in favor of a completely new one caught me entirely off-guard.

I guess. Poor Aeryn.

I agree. @Ran Can you tell us why Aeryn was removed in favor of Daenerys?

Alyssa being younger than Baelon makes sense. After all, if she was older why wasn't she married to Aemon? As for Aeryn and Daenerys I have no clue.

Revised family tree has been released! https://78.media.tumblr.com/11f9bef85c324fecfd8a516cce002a34/tumblr_pc55dgnm3t1u48o2uo1_1280.jpg Changes: 1. Prince Aeryn has been replaced with a Princess Daenerys 2. The children who died young are bunched together 3. Alyssa is now younger than Baelon (#5 instead of #2), Daella is now younger than before (#8 instead of #5), Maegelle switched places with Vaegon, and Saera switched places with Viserra 4. Rogar is canon

@Lord Varys @Free Northman Reborn I honestly doubt Dorne has fully recovered its pre-Conquest population. To me it seems clear the Dornish Wars are in terms of destruction a clear parallel to the Mongol Conquest of Persia. As for evidence here is what we have: 1. The (false) belief that Dorne can raise 50K spears The catch being that there must be a reason this is believable, which would imply historically Dorne could raise more than 25K (though not necessarily 50K) 2. House Fowler alone raised 10K during the reign of Garth VII and was intent on conquest, which implies the Dornish were capable (or at least thought they were capable) of holding territory beyond the Red Mountains 3. The First Vulture King raised 30K despite lacking support from pretty much everyone except House Wyl and (covertly) House Martell Now as for conflicts we have the following: 1. Dornish raiding of the Marches during Aegon's Conquest 2. The First Dornish War (and in particular the Dragon's Wroth) 3. The First Vulture King 4. Other Dornish Wars 5. Intervening in Daemon's War for the Stepstones 6. Raiding the Marches under Aliandra (implied but not confirmed) 7. Daeron I's Conquest of Dorne and the subsequent rebellion (both of which were devastating) 8. The First Blackfyre Rebellion (House Yronwood (and its vassals?) minimum fought for the Black Dragon but didn't show up for the Redgrass Field, which implies that there was a Dornish theater of war which they were preoccupied with) 9. The Second Vulture King, who may or may not have given the Dornish some trouble 10. Third Blackfyre Rebellion (House Yronwood (and its vassals?) minimum fought for the Black Dragon) 11. Fourth Blackfyre Rebellion involved House Yronwood but didn't affect Dorne itself 12. The Dornish may have participated in putting down Lyonel Baratheon's bid for independence since they're neighbors and friends with Aegon V but that is mere speculation on my part 13. War of the Ninepenny Kings (How much the Dornish contributed is unknown but we know for a fact that they did partake in the fighting on the Stepstones) 14. Robert's Rebellion (Dorne contributed 10K to the royalist host, most of whom were bloodied at the Trident, which was a significant blow for the Martells)

F & B V1 is now 752 pages!