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  1. ninewinter

    Expansion Across the Narrow Sea

    If Rhaenyra survived the Dance and she won the war, I'm sure she would have wanted revenge against at least one of the three Triarchy possibly Myr, who killed her Jace. And I think Myr is conquerable. Its not an island City State, possibly, drawing much of its power on a rural environs, so a siege is desirable. It's going to be expensive yeah, but if you pull the free-the -slave card it's doable. Conqeuring Myr will more than recompensate the expenses of the invasion as Myr is one of the most advanced Free City. The location alone as having a foothold in Essos with it's land routes to luxury goods is very tempting to many Westerosi nobles. Just make sure to confine it to the disputed lands as Volantis, Braavos or even the Dothraki, can make the invasion very problematic.
  2. Yeah. That's what I was often thinking when I read about posts like "why didn't the Targaryens conquer the Free Cities etc. I always think that the Free Cities are very complex and not just your average Italian City States. Volantis for example is definitely bigger than Venice or Milan as it possessed "towns" such as Volon Therys and Selhorys, each according to Tyrion, as big as Gulltown, (so possibly having at least a hundred thousands people), a perfectly fine city for Westeros or medieval standards. And also going back to the topic, as what @Jaak said TWOIAF is full of "absurdities and omissions" and heavily Westeros oriented, which is very understandable, but I think, as with all parts of Essos, there's plenty of room for George to write about, maybe something that focused on Essos, its demography, history of the Andals for example, as I find it intriguing. Andal invasion in Westeros is similar to the "Germanic migrations" during the 3rd - 7th century. We may discover that Pentos, though founded by Valyrian colonist is primarily "Andal" in the country side. Religion may differ as I think Pentos mostly followed the Lord of Light but in terms of genetic composition they're not that far with Westeros. Same way as Greek and Italian may look alike, Pentoshi and people from the stormlands or the Vale may, and have been portrayed in the show, to look pretty similar.
  3. ninewinter

    Little Questions That Don't Fit Anywhere Else Part 3

    It's a little bit more complex than the real carrier pigeons of our world. It is said in the 5th book of A Song of Ice and Fire A Dance with Dragons, that the Children of the Forest taught the first men how to delivery these messages, at first, the Ravens will speak the words, or the Ravens can be skin changer and thus can travel from anywhere around Westeros. In time, when the First Men lost their magical affinity with the Children, they train to carry messages on paper by runes, or by letters as spread by the coming of the Andals. According to the published chapter in the Winds of Winter, Some special Ravens can travel to different locations as they memorise it and can learn through the words of the Maesters, but most Ravens are trained to go to one place only. If you release it to it's cage, then it will go for ex. a Raven specifically brought up to King Landing will go to KL after you release him in Winterfell. Kind a like how people who have birds as pet they release their animals somewhere in the forest and their birds can go back to their home. In that sense, it means that only the wealthiest and most powerful houses can have Ravens. some houses may have Ravens going through Kings Landing only.
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    Can Aegon I conquer Europe in the 15th century?

    Yeah, well I raise the question because the setting of the books seems like early 15th century to me as there are no prevalent gunpowder and as the story of the books is very loosely inspired on the War of Roses. But yeah correct, 500 AD Europe is so ripe after the fall of Western Rome he can conquer half of Europe in his lifetime. He can fight Clovis and I'm sure Clovis will bend the knee in a Torrhen Stark like manner. Britain is divided into dozens of petty kingdoms easy to conquer, and I'm interested if he could make an alliance of convenience with Justinian.
  5. In the chapter 5 of the Dance with Dragons, Tyrion travelled in the lands of what was Andalos. I'm quite intrigued at what happened to their kingdoms and petty lordships? a. I know Pentos and possibly Myr and Braavos is part Andal. All of these cities worship other gods now though, and they're not culturally Andal anymore right? b. What is the extent of Andal culture? I know reading from TWOIAF it extends in the Axe from modern day Braavos to Lorath. It's said that there's an Andal outpost in Myr too. So does it extend all the way to the whole of modern day Disputed lands, maybe bordering the Rhoynar? c. When did they arrive to Westeros 4,000 years ago or 2,000? Seems to me the later is most likely and the 4k is just the classic exaggeration/misinterpretation or the limited data available for a medieval scholars such as it is in the maesters of Westeros. d. Do you think their main reason going to Westeros is because of the Valyrian Free hold? e. The Dothraki called Jorah Mormont Jorah the Andal, does it mean that they have encountered and fought with Andal petty kingdoms remaining in Essos or just because he's from Westeros and lack of knowledge that the Northern part of Westeros is dominantly not Andal? f. Last but not the least I'm curious if you think it's the Andals who really brought Iron to Westeros. Thanks for your insight!
  6. ninewinter

    Can Aegon I conquer Europe in the 15th century?

    Personally I believe a huge chunk of France under the Mad King Charles VI is ripe for the picking. If the English under Henry V manage to conquer half of France with 12,000 army, I'm sure a 1000 Targ force with three dragons is a match against the French nobility. Considering Aegon I character of incorporating defeated enemies to his force, that 1k could swell easily to 10k. Maybe an alliance with Burgundy? Or maybe Spain is much better, strategically located in the edge of Western Europe, under King Juan II who loves poetry more than war, with Spain having much lower population than France, Aegon could win just three decisive victory and he could conquer Castile, then head on to Portugal, Granada, then to France or Italy maybe when by the time of Aenys or Maegor.
  7. ninewinter

    Can Aegon I conquer Europe in the 15th century?

    Agree. Gunpowder only becomes really very effective by the late 15th century and early 16th. The Targaryens, if they could rally enough support and gather enough material could very much acquire a good bunch of territory wherever they landed. Good point on someone who mentioned they should head on the pope. Not because I necessarily wanted to put the pope naked but as much as dissuade any "crusade" like movement being formed up which might be dangerous. I imagined some sort of branding for Aegon I as the Anti Christ, and that would be very bad for his popularity.
  8. Let's say Dragonstone is somewhere around north west of Brittany near the coast of Cornwall. Can Aegon I conquer Western Europe in the beginning of the 15th century? Where do you think he should start? England, France, Ireland, or Spain? How many areas can he conquer? Can Aegon I, with Visenya and Rhaenrya with a few hundred vassals conquer Western Europe or he's going to fail after a volley of English longbows?
  9. I think Aegon III is one of the most underrated rulers in Westeros. Most people only attributed his reign as responsible for the death of dragons but didn't he tried his best to seek and hatch more dragons? He's personally afraid of dragons as a dragon ate his mom in his very eyes when he's a kid, but as far as I can tell in FaB he didn't try to forbade Morning in KL, nor did he seek out to kill all the remaining dragons. Also he's one oft he few Monarchs who really care for the smallfolk. He didn't agree to tour the Westeros as adviced by Lord Manderly but I think he's correct on that point. Westeros has just suffered a very expensive war, and the people ought to rebuilt their lives from the devastation. Royal tours are very expensive not just for the King but for the place he visited. No major war occurred during his reign, no huge plague, the realm heals, I think he's probably not one of the worst but probably the 5th of 6th best Targ King in Westeros overall.
  10. Agree to @Leo of House Cartel. Alyn Oakenfist was mentored by the legendary Sea Snake, and the pirates of the Stepstones and the fleets of the Free Cities are no push over, meanwhile the Red Kraken has never met a competent naval enemy.
  11. ninewinter

    Expansion Across the Narrow Sea

    What the Targaryens should have done is, consolidate the Crownlands. And increase those lords directly sworn to them. After Aegon's conquest there are all the reason not to create a Lord Paramount but to just incorporate the whole Riverlands to the Crownlands, thereby consolidating the power of the monarchy by geographically bordering every other realm except Dorne. They should have also permanently occupy the Stepstones as I'm sure a stronghold in that Suez Canal like chokepoint will greatly fill the royal coffers.
  12. ninewinter

    Expansion Across the Narrow Sea

    Agree. During the height of the Targaryen dynasty in the time of the Old King, I'm sure if he wanted it, he could have conquered Pentos, Tyrosh, Lys or Myr. It's going to be expensive and I doubt if he can conquer more than two of the Free Cities, let alone more than one. The power base is too far, and by the time he consolidate his conquest, some other lord in Westeros will do trouble.
  13. I just HBO to go away to this Long Night prequel. It's not going to work, and even if it did, the story won't feel much from GRRM but from various writers that they would just hire. Better to draw inspiration from Dunk and Egg, or the Fire and Blood novel. I think it really opens a lot of potentital for a spin off like the Dance with Dragons, the reign of King Jaehaerys or the conquest of Westeros by Aegon.
  14. @nyser1 Yes that must be their reasons and since they can't massively evacuate all the people from the North might as well fight to defend it. And to think about it, they must have felt their numbers is enough. I'm excited what can other military leaders think about it like the Onion Knight or Jaime in their war council.
  15. Ahh Yeah. I didn't think of it for a second. Further evaluating on this, and I think it's possible that the Battle for Winterfell will be like Jamie's own field of fire last season where they show a big battle but not the last one. I figure they might fight the battle of winterfell, lost and go back to King Landing where Dany/Jon's remnant force will destroy Cersei's Lannister/Greyjoy/Golden Company force with the help of dragons and ultimately wait until the Night King comes south. I hope forces from Volantis and Braavos and other free cities will join as well, but if not, I'm sure expecting it will be the best battle scenes since Lord of the Rings.