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  1. I doubt Robert cared the slightest about finding Stannis a marriage. Moreover, why would Robert even know about Selyse's appearance? I doubt he would have ever met her before Stannis's marriage. Finally, if Robert did arrange the marriage than surely we would have some paragraph from Stannis complaining how it was unfair that he had to marry who Robert picked while Renly didn't. Likely Jon Arryn recommended Stannis that he marry into a Reach house and Stannis possibly picked someone from the Florent because they hadn't been involved in the Siege of Storm's End.
  2. Renly opens admit in the parlay that Stannis has a better claim than him and he is the one to bring up Stannis's letter. Renly isn't trying to hide anything in that conversation. Moreover, it is in Renly's best interests to delegitimize Joffrey seeing how Joffrey currently sits on the throne and has stronger base of support with Tywin's backing. None of Renly's lords are going to be okay with usurping Joffrey, but oppose it when it comes to Stannis.
  3. Nah, charisma is probably more important in a feudal society than birth right and birth order. If one is an unlikable dick than individuals have no problem disposing you even if you are so-called rightful king by birth order. The History of the English Monarchy is full of examples of birth order and right not being important in determining who followed who as king and efforts to usurp unpopular kings.
  4. Stannis wouldn't just need to be better at diplomacy, but better than Renly at diplomacy for that to work.
  5. It actually ever mentioned that Stannis provided any governance for the Stormlands at any point of his life? Stannis commanding Storm's End during the Rebellion doesn't mean he was providing any goverance of the Stormlands before the rebellion. It is just as possible that Robert just pulled whoever was Castellan before to ride with him in battle. Both Randyll and Lady Oakheart are described as being among those that loved Renly best. I doubt Stannis could do anything to win them over.
  6. I take it that her dislike for him might come from how he reminds her of her Targaryen Prince, Daeron, that dumped her to live as "bachelors" with his male friend, Jeremy Norridge.
  7. Nah, I think Stannis's personality is just one that too off putting for him to win many allies. Remember his in-laws don't even support him at first.
  8. It can takes years for someone to become a maester and it is fully possible for someone to leave anytime during their training. All during that time Sam would still be Randyll's lawful heir. Furthermore, the Citadel is in Randyll's own backyard so all of his peers would be aware of Randyll's shame and could plot to use that against him.
  9. Are we told anything about the Vale, Reach, Crownlands, or Stormlands having any unusual hatred of the Lannisters? Tywin and Robb never battled, so how did Robb routinely thrash him? If Robb's defeats of Jaime and Stafford count as him thrashing of Tywin does the Lannister victories over Roose and Duskendale count as Tywin thrashing Robb? Why does Tywin take the blame if one of his underlings fails (i.e suggesting Robb was thrashing him), but not get the credit when one of them succeeds (Tyrion's accomplishments at Blackwater)?
  10. Stannis complains about everything, so he likely would in conjuction to how Robert didn't show enough graditude.
  11. What does Selyse do to Shireen that is so horrific in the books? If Robert or Jon had arranged Stannis's marriage than we would have Stannis complaining about how he didn't fight Robert's marriage pick yet he still wasn't rewarded enough for it.
  12. My issue is the only difference between Loras and every other pick to command a vanguard is Loras's sexuality. Stannis pick for his vanguard was just as green and inexperienced as Loras. Tywin's pick, Garlan, for his vanguard at Blackwater was just as green and inexperienced as Loras. Robert and Robb when first leading their vanguard were was just as green and inexperienced as Loras. Seeing as Randyll Tarly is likely closer to Robert's and Ned's age than Tywin and Blackfish that he was likely just as green and inexperienced as Loras when he faced off against Robert. Gregor is the only vanguard commander that might have had any experience before taking his command of his vanguard and he isn't one known for brains. Not to mention, it isn't even known if he had fought in any major battles before the Green Fork. Simply, there is no logic for people to make a big deal about Loras getting the command of the vanguard and I have it especially interesting how people try to emphasis that Loras was Renly's boyfriend when making that criticism. Edit: However, I will apologize if it came off as I was intending to insult you personally rather my disagreement is with that whole criticism.
  13. Most of that analyses is garbage. We have no idea if Renly's plans had any encircling movements as we don't actually see his strategy that he discussed with Tarly and Rowan. The whole of the Stormlands are a supply line for Renly. He literally only needs to send a messenger to a neighboring castle and he would be provided supplies. Seriously, neither Robb or Tywin had supply-lines while in enemy territory and had no problem with their armies going hungery. Loras being gay doesn't mean he can't fight or command men. If you are complaining about Loras being unqualified I will point out how Stannis appointed the equally inexperienced Morrigen to lead his vanguard at Blackwater. Don't forget Stannis's wonderful pick to lead his navy, so if anything Stannis has a worse reputation for picking his commanders. The sun being in one's eyes doesn't negate the disadvantage of being outnumbered 4 to 1. Stannis's incompetence was much more on display.
  14. Just have it so he is in a whore house getting drunk
  15. Not making him a rapist that watches kiddie blood sports doesn't make him sympathetic. Just like not having Rhaenyra sell Alicent and Haleana to a brothel to be raped wouldn't be making her more sympathetic. Neither story felt like that Mushroom wasn't just making shit up in the text.
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