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Ivan Tsarevich

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  1. Hmm-m. That semi-canon sample mentions a score of private wars, as well as broken men (along with outlaws and robber knights) plaguing the land... and those guys don't come from nowhere. So yes, in absence of contrary evidence, there seems to have been serious fighting. The thing is, Tywin was sent to court after Genna's betrothal, and was only knighted in the eve of the Ninepenny Kings' war (Kevan on the other hand squired for the Red Lion). Still, I'm not aware of anything which would prevent Tywin from being a part of Egg's expeditions... he might've squired for Dunk for all I know. This is the quote I was referring to. (AGoT Catelyn VIII.) Robb drew a map across the table, a ragged piece of old leather covered with lines of faded paint. One end curled up from being rolled; he weighed it down with his dagger. "Both plans have virtues, but . . . look, if we try to swing around Lord Tywin's host, we take the risk of being caught between him and the Kingslayer, and if we attack him . . . by all reports, he has more men than I do, and a lot more armored horse. The Greatjon says that won't matter if we catch him with his breeches down, but it seems to me that a man who has fought as many battles as Tywin Lannister won't be so easily surprised." I don't know about you, but my original inclination was to think larger-scale actions. Either way, reading the world book, it seems like the experience from the Ninepenny Kings' war might have legs. Tygett is mentioned to have killed a man in "his first battle", and Tywin is described as "hardened by battle" afterwards.
  2. Yeah, I am after something during the Greyjoy Rebellion specifically, other than the attack on the Lannister fleet and what I already said. Thanks for bringing up the Ninepenny Kings though - it might go well with another quote, where Robb mentions that Tywin has fought many battles.
  3. What do we know about Jaime and Tywin during the Greyjoy Rebellion? Catelyn calls them "seasoned battle commanders" in AGoT and I'm wondering whether they might have gained some fame on the isles. TWoIaF says that Tywin, like Ned, was on Robert's side during the landings (Pyke, Great Wyk, Harlaw, Orkmont) and they cut across the isles with steel and fire. Barristan led the attack on Old Wyk, so Robert may have let the KG to lead troops. Myrcella was born in 289/290 and Tommen 290/291 AC, but given that Robert was away to war and nobody put together two and two, that should not prevent Jaime from also having taken part in the invasion... though Victarion at least apparently did not meet him, as he would give half his teeth for a chance to fight Jaime or Loras. Is there more information than that?
  4. Cat pays attention to Robb's height at least thrice more. AGoT Catelyn VIII. There was ale and cheese on the table. Catelyn filled a horn, sat, sipped, and studied her son. He seemed taller than when she'd left, and the wisps of beard did make him look older. "Edmure was sixteen when he grew his first whiskers." "I will be sixteen soon enough," Robb said. "And you are fifteen now. Fifteen, and leading a host to battle. Can you understand why I might fear, Robb?" ACoK, Catelyn I. "Lannister won't die," Robb said. "No one so much as speaks to him without my warrant. He has food, water, clean straw, more comfort than he has any right to. But I won't free him, not even for Arya and Sansa." Her son was looking down at her, Catelyn realized. Was it war that made him grow so fast, she wondered, or the crown they had put on his head? "Are you afraid to have Jaime Lannister in the field again, is that the truth of it?" Grey Wind growled, as if he sensed Robb's anger, and Edmure Tully put a brotherly hand on Catelyn's shoulder. "Cat, don't. The boy has the right of this." In the start of the chapter, she describes his voice. "Rise, Ser Cleos." Her son's voice was not as icy as his father's would have been, but he did not sound a boy of fifteen either. War had made a man of him before his time. Morning light glimmered faintly against the edge of the steel across his knees. And ASoS Catelyn II. "Mother." Catelyn looked up at her tall kingly son. "Your Grace, I have prayed for your safe return. I had heard you were wounded." "I took an arrow through the arm while storming the Crag," he said. "It's healed well, though. I had the best of care." On the preceding page... Robb stood on the dais. He is a boy no longer, she realized with a pang. He is sixteen now, a man grown. Just look at him. War had melted all the softness from his face and left him hard and lean. He had shaved his beard away, but his auburn hair fell uncut to his shoulders. The recent rains had rusted his mail and left brown stains on the white of his cloak and surcoat. Or perhaps the stains were blood. On his head was the sword crown they had fashioned him of bronze and iron. He bears it more comfortably now. He bears it like a king. I guess that makes me partial to a growth spurt. I'd be interested in a source for this, if you care. The Blackfish is tall as well, according to Cat. The same Clash chapter. Hoster Tully, Lord of Riverrun, lay abed in his solar, with its commanding view to the east where the rivers Tumblestone and Red Fork met beyond the walls of his castle. He was sleeping when Catelyn entered, his hair and beard as white as his featherbed, his once portly frame turned small and frail by the death that grew within him. Beside the bed, still dressed in mail hauberk and travel-stained cloak, sat her father's brother, the Blackfish. His boots were dusty and spattered with dried mud. "Does Robb know you are returned, Uncle?" Ser Brynden Tully was Robb's eyes and ears, the commander of his scouts and outriders. "No. I came here straight from the stables, when they told me the king was holding court. His Grace will want to hear my tidings in private first, I'd think." The Blackfish was a tall, lean man, grey of hair and precise in his movements, his clean-shaven face lined and windburnt. "How is he?" he asked, and she knew he did not mean Robb. Jaime does not explicitly remark on his height when they meet, though one might wonder about the "great knight". AFfC Jaime VI. The brooch that fastened Ser Brynden Tully's cloak was a black fish, wrought in jet and gold. His ringmail was grim and grey. Over it he wore greaves, gorget, gauntlets, pauldron, and poleyns of blackened steel, none half so dark as the look upon his face as he waited for Jaime Lannister at the end of the drawbridge, alone atop a chestnut courser caparisoned in red and blue. He loves me not. Tully had a craggy face, deeply lined and windburnt beneath a shock of stiff grey hair, but Jaime could still see the great knight who had once enthralled a squire with tales of the Ninepenny Kings. Honor's hooves clattered against the planks of the drawbridge. Jaime had thought long and hard about whether to wear his gold armor or his white to this meeting; in the end, he'd chosen a leather jack and a crimson cloak. He drew up a yard from Ser Brynden, and inclined his head to the older man. "Kingslayer," said Tully. That he would make that name the first word from his mouth spoke volumes, but Jaime was resolved to keep his temper. "Blackfish," he responded. "Thank you for coming." Edmure is a head taller than his sister, which may not help a lot. ACoK Catelyn V. "We'll provide you with fresh mounts and provisions," her brother promised. "You'll want to refresh yourself before—" "I'll want to stay," Catelyn said, dismounting. She had no intention of leaving Riverrun and her dying father to pick Robb's wife for him. Robb wants me safe, I cannot fault him for that, but his pretext is growing threadbare. "Boy," she called, and an urchin from the stables ran out to take the reins of her horse. Edmure swung down from his saddle. He was a head taller than she was, but he would always be her little brother. "Cat," he said unhappily, "Lord Tywin is coming—" "He is making for the west, to defend his own lands. If we close our gates and shelter behind the walls, we can watch him pass with safety."
  5. I'm currently paying some idle mind to colors, the ones worn by Jaime Lannister especially. As I am sure there has been stuff on similar things (the colors and how George uses them) in the past, would anyone have something they'd care to link?
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