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Suzanna Stormborn

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  1. 20 minutes ago, Cas Stark said:

    So do you think Isaac is lying or that the showrunners lied to him when they told him it came directly from GRRM?  

    And why do you think the show made Bran king when it was clear for several seasons that they disliked his storyline after he left Winterfell?

    It strikes me that an easier and more popular solution for the show would have been to have the Great Council as a new form of government....so since they didn't do this easier and more popular solution, I can only believe it was because Bran being king is a book endpoint, same as the endpoints they used for the rest of the major characters.  


    To the bolded, sure why not? They have lied about many things.

    And like many have said, the story is constantly in flux, from the 1993 outline to now it has changed immensely. GRRM has stated that he gave them bullet points 6 years ago, maybe Bran was king in those bullet points and maybe he wasn't. Alls I know is that he only has 2 books and Dany is still in Meereen and Bran is still in a cave NotW. Nothing is set in stone until he publishes. 

    Why do I think the show made Bran King? because they're idiots--same reason they made Arya kill the King White Walker--shock and a BIG STUPID TWIST that doesn't fit with the plot.

  2. 12 minutes ago, Cas Stark said:

    The show can suck and still have been faithful to the ending he gave them, which is what the totality of everyone's statements in context indicates.  He has said that he's known the ending for the main characters for YEARS, which is the ending he gave the show, which they said they loved.  

    He literally did NOT say that


    He said this.

    --"I’ve been so slow with these books," Martin told Rolling Stone. "The major points of the ending will be things I told [Benioff and Weiss] five or six years ago. But there may also be changes, and there’ll be a lot added."

    12 minutes ago, Lollygag said:

    If the ending is accurate to that character, it was poorly written. If the ending isn't accurate to that character and is something different, it was also poorly written.

    As I can't think of a single character who has been handled well especially compared to the early seasons, if we use quality as a measure of judging accuracy, then 100% of the show is inaccurate to the ending of the book characters. 

    100% agree, the show is inacurate for all characters

    3 minutes ago, Cas Stark said:

    Sure, I hate the endings for everyone as well, except for Dany,

    we know.

  3. Just now, Lollygag said:

    The quality of writing has no bearing on accuracy either way. 

    I think it does, they are the ones who wrote in the script that Jaime goes back to Cersei 3 different times after Riverrun. They also wrote Jaime going to Dorne to meet Bad Pussy. I think that's awful plot/script/writing whatever you want to call it, it was all pure nonsense that was100% invented by D&D.

  4. Quotes from GRRM about the how the show will be different from the [unwritten] final book;

    --"I’ve been so slow with these books," Martin told Rolling Stone. "The major points of the ending will be things I told [Benioff and Weiss] five or six years ago. But there may also be changes, and there’ll be a lot added."


    ---And I’m writing.   Winter is coming, I told you, long ago… and so it is.   THE WINDS OF WINTER is very late, I know, I know, but it will be done.  I won’t say when, I’ve tried that before, only to burn you all and jinx myself… but I will finish it, and then will come A DREAM OF SPRING.

    How will it all end? I hear people asking.   The same ending as the show?  Different?

    Well… yes.  And no.  And yes.   And no.   And yes.   And no.   And yes.

    I am working in a very different medium than David and Dan, never forget.   They had six hours for this final season.   I expect these last two books of mine will fill 3000 manuscript pages between them before I’m done… and if more pages and chapters and scenes are needed, I’ll add them.   And of course the butterfly effect will be at work as well; those of you who follow this Not A Blog will know that I’ve been talking about that since season one.   There are characters who never made it onto the screen at all, and others who died in the show but still live in the books… so if nothing else, the readers will learn what happened to Jeyne Poole, Lady Stoneheart, Penny and her pig, Skahaz Shavepate, Arianne Martell, Darkstar, Victarion Greyjoy, Ser Garlan the Gallant, Aegon VI, and a myriad of other characters both great and small that viewers of the show never had the chance to meet.   And yes, there will be unicorns… of a sort…

    Book or show, which will be the “real” ending?   It’s a silly question.   How many children did Scarlett O’Hara have?

    How about this?  I’ll write it.   You read it.  Then everyone can make up their own mind, and argue about it on the internet.



    So yeah, he says that they made some of the characters have the same ending as what he had in mind 5 or 6 years ago. and that's all. Everyone on this thread who is falling for the ULTRA STUPIDITY of what D&D gave us---well I feel very sorry for you, and I am sorry that you have so little faith in GRRM. To even suggest that his masterpiece will end the same way those 2-bit hacks showed us on HBO is appalling.  But of course, all Dany-Haters will love the HBO ending (despite most of them complaining about how stupid the show is these past 8 years) and Dany-Fans will hate it. I am seeing a clear divided line on these HBO threads, with most book-forum Dany-Haters coming here to say they think this is how it will end. So the show is "stupid, plot-less, bad writing, ridiculous, larry carol, deadpans, Pomade Jesus", etc. right up until Dany starts killing innocents--then all of a sudden it's "Exactly accurate" and "this is the ending" well fucking LMAO to that. D&D are dumbass terrible writer/directors and if hating Dany makes you suddenly disagree with that that's on you. I prefer to be consistent.


    Edit: and if you think that nothing could possibly change over the past 6 years then I will refer you back to GRRM's original 1993 outline for the books....... it has changed so much it would be impossible for anyone except him to keep up with it.

  5. Forum will not let me post on this thread


    in Internet Explorer or Chrome.  It's letting me post on other thread, just not this one specifically.

    I am trying to close thread and open a new version of it, but forum keeps freezing and acting crazy.


    Edit: ok tried to post without quoting anyone and it worked. idk

  6. My 'quote' and 'multi-quote' are not working in the Star Wars Rogue One thread.  No matter who i try to quote it keeps putting up this same quote box that I quoted 2 days ago.  It wont let me select anyone new to quote, that same one box comes up every time. And only in that thread, i've shut the internet and the entire computer down but it keeps happening.



  7. 7 hours ago, Ser Quork said:

    Huh, I hadn't thought of that parallel - it's certainly a possibility.

    And yes, finished the Arthur trilogy last week - she was prepared to sacrifice a King's son to bring back the gods.  I thought there were a fair number of parallels with ASoIaF, as I read.

    Such good books! Cornwell And Martin are friends apparently and borrow from each other.  So it's no surprise there are some similarities.  But Nimue is the first thing I thought of when I read about Euron in this chapter.....  The books are so good, but I'm sorry there is no way he can get it done in WoW and DoS, there will have to be another between those 2.  Maybe itll be WoW, TIme for Wolves then Dream of Spring.  I mean we are JUST NOW getting prophecies of Euron on the IT, there is still soooooo much to do. And both of the Arianne sample chapters she is only traveling around talking, no action has been taken and she hasn't even spoken to fAegon yet.  I have no problem with the slow pace of the books (they are phenomenal) , but I do not agree he can get it done in 2.

  8. On 6/7/2016 at 10:51 PM, Thel said:

    Is there any reason the three main visions in Dany's HOTU "bride of fire" can't correspond to the three heads of the dragon? Dany. Aegon, Jon? 

    That's still a possible vote for the prow sanding corpse to be Jon Con.

     There's no way Dany is "marrying" Euron. He's twisted and savage. Also, why, if the corpse is supposed to be representing Euron (vis a vis Aeron?)  is it sadly smiling?  The image seems to me to express accomplishment at a price. 

    I have always suspected that when he has that horn blown it might attract dany to him for a short while as well as one of her dragons.

  9. Dragons krakens and sphinxes.  Does this mean fAegon, Ironborn and Dornish will bow to him before he is stopped?

    What/who does the tall woman with pale fire hands represent?? thoughts??


    So Euron captured a galleas out of Qarth with 4 warlocks.  This was after Dany burned down the HotU, but not long after because they had just set sail after her I guess.   He fed one warlock to the other 3.  This was Pyat Pree's ship, he told Euron all about Dany.  Euron cut his legs off, and still holds him prisoner correct?

    He tied his pregnant woman, Falia, to the prow of his ship as a sacrifice to the drowned God right? probably another tip he picked up from tales of Dany birthing the dragons I bet, 'she sacrificed her husband and son to bring forth the dragons' is the story I imagine Euron would have heard.........

    He has gone totally off the reservation and wants to kill all the gods yet sacrifice to them at the same time???

    Has anyone read Bernard Cornwell's Arthur trilogy? He is just like Nimue towards the end.  She even has one eye....

  10. They even tricked me with that Benjen ploy, wtf.

    At least Ramsay's little skeleton girlfriend is dead. She is one we can be sure will not come back.

    And I agree with everyone bitching about the inconsistencies. I mean the snow would not be soft enough to survive a 60 ft. jump, give us a break D&D.

  11. In my opinion its just poor writing....

    EDIT: just because doesn't make any sense the way D&D placed the sacrifice.... and so many scenes on this season (Littlefinger just hand over Sansa to the Boltons; the Bolton actually marry her to the family; etc)

    1 year of siege in Storm's End and he resisted..... 1 day (tops) without food and he succumbs to sacrifice his own daughter.... on the books he refuses to sacrifice Asha or any unbeliever for this....

    "Half my army is made of unbelievers. No more burnings. Pray harder"

    That's a incredibly good point!! and they even mention the siege of Storm's End on the show, he talks about eating cats and dogs.........C'mon D&D!!!

  12. I thought that was a good idea. But... think about it, if they could pump out 15 episodes a season they would do exactly that. It takes them a whole year to produce just the 10.

    lol you are basically asking for them to double the budget of the show, or otherwise half the quality of what they currently are producing.

    Well whatever! It's worth it! Hire more people, do whatcha gotta do, they owe it to the integrity of this great story to do it right!!! Look how pissed Linda is! Has everyone seen her twitter feed?

    HBO has enough money to get this right!

  13. People forget that there's a limit to how many characters and settings you can have in the show, meaning that D+D are forced to make a lot of changes.

    For example take the Sansa/Ramsay storyline. That was absolutely necessary because the alternative was having two extra characters (Harry the Heir and fArya) and one extra setting and storyline (The Vale).

    A lot of people's criticisms of the show can be put down to logistics, and the sheer difficulty of adapting such an epic series of books.

    The only problem I have, is that each episode should be 1 hr 15 mins, and each season should be 12-15 episodes,that way they wouldnt have to cut SOOOOOOOOOOOO much out.

  14. Am I the only one who still likes Stannis? I mean he was giving Jon good advice before he left the wall.

    If anything should be hated it's religion, and the stupid shit people do to follow it!!!!

    He was only doing what any good follower of R'Hollor should do.

  15. Tapatalk would be the correct app. I think Invision's iOS app may also still be around... or maybe they pulled it ahead of the IPB 4.0 release, not sure.

    Thank you :)

  16. OK what I was going to say is that the AJT should be updated with one or all of these, which all have much more info in their OP, than the one listed in this OP.



    Or this one which also has all the info from WOIAF, which, as we know, really opened the door to this theory as a whole.


  17. I wonder what this chapter says about the fate of Tycho Nestoris and Justin Massey. It seems to at least indicate that Bravos has not yet fully and openly thrown in with Stannis. I have to say that I thought there was more to a contract with the Iron Bank than the simple piece of paper, especially when Stannis signed in blood. If the Iron Bank won't know about the contract unless Tycho safely arrives back in Bravos, the deal does not have a high chance of success.

    You think Tycho wont make it back safely?

  18. Doesn't Shae pretend to be an innocent maiden with a fiancee at the trial? Supposing the playwright (distant relative of Syrio Forel) was at the trial/heard accounts of the trial, he would be forced to assume that Shae was the innocent that she pretended to be at the trial.

    Yes Exactly. The only public knowledge of Shae is what she said at the trial.

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