The Scabbard Of the Morning

The writers don't know anything about warfare so none of the characters do either. Remember Stannis and the 20 good men? Nobody on this show bothers with things like scouting and keeping watch.

No he didn't. He was stripped of the role by Tommen after his attempted assault on the Sept of Baelor to rescue Margaery

5, nothing great, a few good scenes, a few awful scenes and a mostly meh scenes.

As I said in the R&R thread, this is probably better than any episode in season 5 or 6. I couldn't stand to rewatch any episode since season 4 but I could see myself rewatching this episode.

I can't imagine Euron would be interested in teaming with Cersei, I can't imagine anyone being interested in teaming up with Cersei. What does Cersei even have to offer at this point? Seems like a merger with a company with a lots of liabilities and very few assets. Not worth it.

5/10 for me as well. Here how my scoring works 4 points for writing(Plot and dialogue), 2 points for acting, 2 for visuals, and 2 for sets costumes and sound, I still the show still gets good visuals and sets/costume/music, so 4 points there, only 1 point for acting because it was a mixed bag, and 0 points for writing.

To me the Tower crashing has got to be the Hightower Fleet that Euron is going to face at the end of the this chapter, possibly the death of Leyton Hightower himself and the fall of Old Towne.

Ok does this chapter confirm somewhat that the crumbling tower by the sea in Melisandre's vision are the Hightowers of Oldtown?

Yes, my theory is that the Faceless Men and Euron are working together, his "kill all the gods thing" fits the FM's MO so that the Many-Faced God is the only one left. The Faceless Men would be one of the few groups who's been to the ruins of Valyria and recovered things like Dragonbinder and the Valyrian steel armor. Euron might not have gone there himself, but I think he's telling the truth of where Dragonbinder came from.

Isn't the theory he gave the faceless men a dragon egg as price for the hit on Balon. Hence his comment about tossing an dragon egg in the ocean, since Balon was tossed into the ocean.

So one of the quotes " When he laughed, his face sloughed off, and the priest saw that it was not Urri, but Euron’s smiling eye, hidden. " Another hint that Euron is or is working with faceless men?

Honestly reading this chapter has made me really like Aeron Damphair. I mean the guy suffered a lot, abused by Euron as a child, spent a long time in Casterly Rock as a prisoner, but still pretty much a decent guy. He serves his god, didn't harm any one. And really from his internal thoughts bore no one ill will other than his intense hatred of Euron which is completely justified. You can call him a misogynst but he's just a product of his culture, he doesn't seem to hate any specific woman, he even appreciates Asha's qualities and wants her to rule together with Victarion. He also is a lot kinder to the Flowers girl than I expected, first he tries to warn her than Euron will hurt her in a way that made me thing he cared about her and didn't want to see Euron hurt her. Then even when they are tied to the ship he bore her no ill will, instead even tries to comfort her and gave her courage, telling her hang in there and that they will soon be in the watery halls.

There is no way somebody can fake this

It's all about retrospective when it came to prophecies. Was the Red Wedding vision in that vision the red wedding when I first read it, of course not. It might have given me an inkling of something going on with Robb, but that's it, only after the Red Wedding in book 3 did it become obvious that it was the Red Wedding. Nor did it become obvious that the mummer's dragon was Aegon until after book 5. So of course you do not know for sure it was about Euron back in book 2, that's the point, prophecies only become obvious when the get fulfilled.

I've been convinced since AFFC came out that the guy on the ship with grey lips in the house of the undying is Euron. So he's been planned from the beginning.

We didn't need to see it, we could have just seen the consequences of his actions. But that's not a debate for this thread

Euron is not bloat, Quentyn was bloat.

I think Jon's armor was made of black ice, which is Dragonglass, not Dragonsteel.

I generally buy that theory, but I think maybe their association runs deeper, a Faceless Men infiltrates the Citadel just as Euron is about to attack, his interest in all the different Gods, they are a death cult after all and Euron seems to want to kill everyone and everything.

Could Euron be working with the Faceless Men? We know he used one of them to kill Balon, so we know they are affiliated, and we know the Many-Faced God could be part of his kill all Gods MO. And who but the Faceless Men could have gotten all those treasures of Valyria. not just Dragonbinder, but his Valyrian Steel armor. Really starting to think that's how Arya and her Faceless Men training is going to play into the plot, that it will be reveals they have been working with Euron all along.

The dwarves are the kings and queens squabbling over Westeros. I'm convinced the shadow woman with white fire is Quaithe. She's the only other shadowbinder we know of, and I'm highly skeptical that Melisandre would be down with killing the Red God. So I'm going with Quaithe.

Melisandre? She's described as almost as tall as Stannis, right?

This chapter is a doozy. Link at https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/4lltk4/spoilers_everything_via_bryndenbfish_grrm_has/ Highlights: Euron is in Shields, sails out to sea, DAMPHAIR is his captive at bottom of Silence. Some really messed up stuff. Aeron is covered in lice and fleas Another mute in the service of Euron "Your place is where I want you" - Euron to Damphair Euron licked Aeron's spit after Aeron spit at him Lots of talk about the various gods Aeron loved Asha most of all of Balon's children Aeron thinks about Asha marrying Victarion to consolidate power Falia Flowers appears & says she is to be one of Euron's salt wives. She says she is Euron's 'love' & thus safe Aeron just learned that Victarion is on his way to Dany Falia Flowers says her and Daenerys will be "as close as sisters" Fuuuuck further confirmation Euron was a molester. Asks Aeron if he was praying to be chosen or be passed by Aeron calls Euron a "demon in human skin" Lots of religious figures there, including Red Priest and some warlocks from Qarth, one saying Pree repeatedly Euron wearing iron crown with shark teeth on it Euron doesn't care about keeping the Shield Islands, that's for the new lords to deal with Euron forcing Aeron to drink shade-of-the-evening again Damn good visions to analyze in this chapter Lucas Codd sitting in a place of honor "Words are wind, but blood is power" - Lucas Codd Euron's got some fancy new armor with runes and glyphs...Aeron says it's made of Valyrian steel! Euron had Falia Flowers tied to the prow with Aeron Additional info Oh, Pyat Pree was a captive of Euron that kept saying "Pree, Pree", he had no legs. Euron sacked the Arbor( I think). Redwynes are coming west against Euron, Leyton is sending ships against Euron down the Mander Oh and uh, Euron admitted to killing 3 of his brothers, including Balon. One last memory: DAMPHAIR was captured immediately after talking with Victarion about raising the isles against Euron. Minutes it seemed. Euron impregnated bastard daughter of Shield Lord. She thinks she'll be his salt wife, but ends up with her tongue cut, lashed to ship Aeron tells her something like, "Take heart, girl. We'll all be feasting in the Drowned God's hall soon."

So what, it's about appearances. The Bolton's married fake Arya to get appearance of legitimacy to Winterfell, As long as Trystane and his progeny gets to rule, unless anyone can prove Myrcella's parentage it doesn't matter.

I don't know why the focus is on whether Arianne would marry Aegon, I think the much bigger unknown is whether Aegon would marry Arriane. Aegon and Connington knows about Dany and her dragons, and that eventually she's coming to Westeros, why would he marry Arrianne instead of waiting for Dany instead of setting up the chances for another Dance of Dragons. Oh, because he needs the Martells, you say. Sure, he does, but where are the Martells going, are they going to back the Lannisters? Of course not, and is there not something else he can offer Dorne? Myrcella is the heir to both Casterly Rock and the Stormlands. Aegon could just offer to promise both the Westerlands and the Stormlands to Trystane through his marriage to Myrcella. Doran is going to turn that down?