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Girlnextgondor is brilliant. This is really interesting:

Have you seen the aurora over the past few days?

HAH! My niece is going to be on parade for the King's coronation as part of the Canadian contingent. There is going to be a Coronation Party in this house!

I was going to say that they are more akin to Mel's lot but opposite. If there is an analog to dragons; it might be ice spiders. I still like the idea of winterized wargs. But were they such in the beginning?

I don't much sympathy for her and I'll have even less when Shireen is burned. I can understand her behaviour but I don't excuse it.

Oh my goodness. Poor Dany. First she's sold to Drogo because of her looks and now she's a white saviour? I hope she is the saviour of women and children in this society. The men aren't going to reform themselves. Who better to do that than a woman. I thought that was GRRM's point.

I'm leaning this way too. Mel says you can't have light without dark; so I'm guessing that the ice side is an unintended consequence of the fire sorcery that created the dragons. In fact, she generates light to create shadow assassins as witnessed by Davos. Moqorro might be hinting at the causal event when he talks about the Doom of Valyria; that men delved too deep and there were consequences.. I think this goes back to the old story of two moons in the sky. I don't think there were actually two astronomical bodies; but one physical and one metaphysical. By that I mean someone who can appear as the moon; like Bran when he chases Jon in his wolf-dream. Something that certain characters can perceive with the third eye. Bloodraven tells Bran that the weirwood faces will be the first eyes he will see through but that he will not need that at some point. This is why Bran was given flying lessons by the 3EC; so he could astral project or fly and view the world from the sky. The 3EC has mastered that level of magic. The eyes in the sky that can see across continents as shown in Bran's coma dream. So getting back to the two moons; was this another who could fly and came disguised as the moon to those who could perceive it? When the moon flew too close to the sun (eclipse); she cracked open and a thousand, thousand dragons poured forth. Are we getting a story about the original mother of dragons and her dragonseed descendants? Perhaps this is the preternatural event that created dragons fire and air made flesh; and their opposite, ice and air made flesh. So I lean towards vulcanism to explain why the sun hid it's face; an event that may have taken place when the moon cracked open. Makes me wonder what will come pouring out of the Blood Moon; monstrous and swollen (pregnant?) as it is. This appears to be Euron/Sauron's eye in the sky.

Excellent! Really interesting and enjoyable to read. Some fascinating insights and intuition here.

HAH! I like it. Three corns for the Others and Jon Snow Horn King! I think you finally broke the corn code. Bloodraven blowing his corn!

That was like reading something out of Discworld. I was hearing Nigel Planer's voice. Also, I was reminded of this:

You're talking my language.

Sounds great. It's not easy to come up with something that might be new to some ears. Trying to find something that isn't too complicated or won't cause conflict is walking a fine line these days. It doesn't seem worth it sometimes.

The idea that the sun hid its face and the darkness started in the North, affecting the globe; mirrors descriptions of the year with no sun. Starting at 26 minutes:

Something interesting - The year without a sun 536 - 560 AD: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_winter_of_536#:~:text=Modern scholarship has determined that,the atmosphere for several years. GRRM's inspiration for the Long Night perhaps?

LOL! Did somebody say Beetlejuice three times?

I saw a fascinating demonstration of ChatGPT on The Philosophers Games podcast the other day! It just amazes me how far technology has progressed.

Howland Reed fought beside Theo Wull during Robert's Rebellion. So it seems he has battle experience of the melee sort and he survived. Theo Wull was also at the ToJ and died there. I don't think Howland is an unskilled fighter or has no experience of warfare.

Cheers! I'm over the covid. It took about 10 days and lots of sleep. I've been thinking about the Sky Gods lately and I might have something in a week or so...

Yes, I can't explain it or comprehend it. These are characters in a story of high fantasy. We are meant to see them as flawed characters and some are vile beyond question. It's turned into a kind of competition for some readers. I don't know what to say to that and I pass on those threads. I am very much appreciating the humour that is coming out in some threads. There can't be too much of that for my liking.

Jeepers, I haven't thought about this for ages. I wonder if I've changed my mind about anything....

What happens if he has the use of at least one glass candle? We can't be sure that Marwyn is the only one there who can use one? Do you think that would be useful to Euron. How about a blood eye in the sky? Benerro is certainly agitated by the moon. A blood Moon eclipse has that effect on on the superstitious. It's an evil omen. Perhaps this is foreshadowing of Euron gaining access to a glass candle at the Citadel. Especially since the blood moon has a twin on the sea. Moqorro says the dark eye has fallen upon Dany but in The Foresaken chapter; Euron now goes by the name Euron Blood Eye. You might also tie what Tyrion saw, with what Mirri Maaz Duur said: Mirri uses the language of signs and portents by using the the word when. It doesn't necessarily mean that Dany will see these omens herself. It looks like GRRM gave the first one to Tyrion. When the sub/son rises in the West and sets in the East could point the finger at Tyrion as well. He leaves Illyrio's manse through the Sunrise Gate although he does.t see the sun. It seems to me that Mirri's answer to Dany's question is not so impossible after all.

To add a bit of mystery; I don't think this dream is about Jamie and Cersei. But rather Leyton Hightower and the Mad Maid. Bran's dream (below) sounds like Jamie and Cersei at first glance: The height of the ancient tower of blackened stone and overhearing a whispered conversation could be a distortion of his suppressed memory of Jamie and Cersei. Or it could be Bran seeing someone engaged in sorcery. The description of the gargoyles who may have once been lions, twisted and grotesque could be a reference to the sphinx of the Citadel: The gates are flanked by a pair of tall green sphinxes with the bodies of lions, the wings of eagles and the tails of serpents. One has the face of a man, the other a woman. - Westeros Wiki So perhaps there is more than one sphinx riddle in this story.

Yes, for sure. Euron - Sauron , sounds similar. I've been wondering if Quaithe's warning about the glass candles burning in the house of Urrathon Nightwalker is actually the Citadel, where we know there are glass candles burning. Her warning could be foreshadowing Euron taking the Citadel for his seat and glass candles are somewhat similar to palantir or seeing stones.

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