The Red Wedding Was Justified. in General (ASoIaF) Posted September 9 1 hour ago, Nevets said: This quote might be of interest AGOT, Jon IV This would suggest that such events are not automatically rape. A statement by the girl or other evidence of force is required. Nowhere in that quote does it claim he took her without her consent or that he used force. It may well be she confirmed they had sex, which in the medieval world would make him a rapist. Without her confirming it he's not really done anything wrong, certainly nothing worthy of giving up his life to the Wall. Are you under the impression that I am making this up about medieval life? That the wiki on the history of rape, the essay I provided were all fake and that this claim is not true? 1 hour ago, Nevets said: As to Rhaegar, Bran is under the impression that Lyanna was raped, but we don't know where he got the information from. Given Ned's reticence on the matter, I doubt it was him. Who else would have told him? Ned is the Lord of his castle, when he did not want Arthur Dayne and his sister mentioned it was no longer brought up by the servants. Ned is in charge of his children's education, the Maester is not going to be teaching them anything that he does not want them to know. The medieval understanding of rape was different to ours, it had a broader meaning, not just violent non consenting sex. There is not one source in the entire series that claims that Lyanna did not willingly give herself to Rhaegar, it was still rape. And despite the entire realm knowing he was a rapist it has not damaged his reputation among most of the realm, Kevan, Cersei, Barristan, Jaime and many others look at him admiringly. She thought of Daario. If ever there was a man who could rape a woman with his eyes . . . To be sure, she was just as guilty. Dany found herself stealing looks at the Tyroshi when her captains came to council, and sometimes at night she remembered the way his gold tooth glittered when he smiled. The word had more meaning than it does today.