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  1. mr.mop

    How would you rate episode 410?

    1- Why Tyrion goes up the stairs: because it's probably his last chance ever to confront his father, who has at that point tried to kill him and at the very least ruined his life permanently. 2 - Why Shae lunges at him with a knife: for the same reason she testifies against him at the trial. She wants him dead, she hates him for what she sees as multiple betrayals. He stayed at King's Landing when he could've left with her, married Sansa as a result, and then sent her away while calling her a whore. As a viewer we know he always loved her and had her interests at heart, but she was a wounded lover feeling betrayed several times over and had come to hate him. These things aren't hard to see if you actually watch the show, rather than let yourself get caught up in the various ways the show deviates from the books
  2. mr.mop

    How would you rate episode 410?

    You completely misread that whole sequence. Tywin was never on Tyrion's side. To the extent he wanted Tyrion to live, it was only to get Jaimie to give up being in the Kingsguard, and this is important: that only happens if Tyrion is found guilty. If Tyrion is found innocent, there is no need to deal with Jaimie and let Tyrion take the black. So Tywin always wanted Tyrion guilty, and always wanted Tyrion gone, the only question was whether he'd settle for Tyrion in a black cloak or if he would insist on Tyrion's head. So no, Tywin was not, in any way, shape, or form, on Tyrion's side. No think about where Tyrion stood at that moment, Tysha or no. Even though he was escaping with his life, he had just said goodbye to Jaimie forever, who, as far as he could tell, is the only person who ever loved him. He was looking at the rest of his life without money (after being able to buy his way into or out of anything for his entire life), on the run, a fugitive with nothing but a bounty on his head. Never to see his brother or anyone else he likes or loves ever again. Because his father plotted with his sister to arrange for him to get a death sentence for a crime he didn't commit, and Tywin knew it. Yeah, I'd say there's plenty of reason for Tyrion to be feeling desperate, emotional, irrational, and looking at probably his last chance ever to confront his father, even without Tysha.
  3. mr.mop

    How would you rate episode 410?

    Yeah I understand why Tysha and Coldhands are out but also why people are upset by their absence. The "Only Cat" thing though is just bizarre to me.
  4. mr.mop

    How would you rate episode 410?

    lol it's amazing to me that people care about the "Only Cat" line. it didn't register with me at all.
  5. mr.mop

    How would you rate episode 410?

    Shae is a replacement for Tysha in terms of Tyrion's motivations, emotions, etc. Rather than have Tyrion monologuing about his ex for the first 3.5 seasons so that the viewer would truly understand her importance to him (since it all takes place in his head in the books), the showrunners just used the people actually on screen. This is precisely what is meant by adaptation--something that happens almost entirely as an internal monologue in the books probably won't work on the show, so they use something else similar in its place. Here, they really built up his relationship with Shae a lot more than in the books, so that her betrayal had more weight. I don't think a single non-book reader got to the privvy scene and thought, "why is Tyrion is so mad Tywin?" lol, the combo of Shae & the death sentence was more than adequate to justify Tyrion's behavior, and justify him going into a depressed funk, which is what Tysha's role was.
  6. mr.mop

    How would you rate episode 410?

    I mean, the definition of "adapt" is, in part, "modify." As in, make suitable for another medium; modify. By definition adaptation requires change.
  7. mr.mop

    How would you rate episode 410?

    LOL thank you, what a bizarre list to bust out to prove the show is deviating from the books. Literally, a character is silently comatose instead of screaming in pain after a battle is now a major change? Saying "your sister" referring to Cat instead of "only Cat" is a major change? People need to get some perspective. As for Tysha, I mean, it's pretty simple--the entire Tysha thing happens inside Tyrion's head for basically the entire series. In order to give that relationship its proper importance, they would've needed him to just talk to people about it all the time--Pod, Jaimie, Bronn, Cat, the dude guarding his sky cell, Cersei, whoever and whenever. They also have this conveniently placed love interest right there next to him they could use as a stand-in instead. So they went the way of showing rather than telling. That's smart writing. Tysha just doesn't translate well to screen.
  8. mr.mop

    How would you rate episode 410?

    Shouldn't be too difficult when Cersei figures out Jaimie helped Tyrion escape. I don't have much of a problem with Shae either, they were building her up as jealous of Sansa and simply not understanding of why Tyrion wanted her out of Kings Landing for awhile, and the last we saw of her before the trial, Tyrion got rid of her by calling her a whore and having her believe it. Is it really hard to imagine a scorned lover "getting back" at someone in the ways Shae did? People sleep with their ex's friends, brothers, whatever, all the time.
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