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Jace, Extat

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  1. That's not what I've written. I don't want liberals to abandon Trans interests. MY interests are Trans interests. I simply prefer my sub-grouping not be used as a cannon fodder cudgel by faddish political peacockers... from their own safe and Democratic bastions, of course. That I'm supposed to be grateful for such ill-use is infuriating. That I'm slighted for expressing as much is crushing.
  2. There was less pushback against transness and non-binaryness five years ago than there is now. Making something a political standard invites pushback. Making it about something wherein there -are- legitimate concerns regarding the (VERY DIFFICULT) treatment of children is just fucking stupid. In case I haven't made it clear; I don't actually care what any of you do with your children. What disturbs me most is that I see a lot of very excited people who don't seem to understand that they're in a political salient (one that concerns me) and are too Pride Blind to see it. I don't like being attached to salients unless I'm defending Kursk in 1943, and even then I'd rather be anywhere else on the line. My sister and my brother-in-law let me stay with them for the better part of a year when my Nice Liberal Always-On-The-Right-Side-of-Twitter-Law gay roommates decided they didn't need me no more and sent my ass packing back to Indianastan just weeks after reaffirming that we were cool for another year of coexistence. My brother-in-law and sister are Trump voting conservatives, and if their son started sucking dick I don't have a single doubt in my mind that they'd have his back. But they get nervous when stuff like this comes up. Influencing stuff. I understand that, and I cannot condemn them for it no matter how wildly people who are too enthusiastic about their in-group doomsay about the future. DeSantis is taking advantage of people who just don't want their children to be harmed by stuff that's new and they're unfamiliar with, and obviously a fair amount of bigots are tagging along. I do not see the social utility in continuing to antagonize these people about an issue that adds nothing to the liberalization of this country. I see it like a debuff, to use videogame parlance. A debuff for me (making conservatives madder at Trans people who don't get to quietly pass or live in states that protect us) and for the cause as a whole by, again, making them madder at what they see as weirdness and impression on their child rearing. Like a Helm of Cutting Off One's Nose to Spite One's Face Again, again, again. Please understand that this is a politics thread. I'm filtering all of this through a political lens. And what makes California and Oregon parents warm and gooey inside when it comes to social construction don't play so well where I live. And yes, liberals antagonize conservatives about this. In the last few months I have seen more sneering references to conservative panic about Drag Queen Hour than I have to the fact that they're all tacitly complicit in an attempted overthrow of my government. THAT is where my irritation really comes from. You're all wasting your time with this horseshit social tinkering when the Reichstag is burning.
  3. I never said you did. I said "I" do not. And I said it more-or-less in response to: To me the fear is that I could suggest that trans-ness is intrinsic to my value as a person or an artist. It is not. People are stupid and impressionable - especially children. And yes, I think they should be given reasonable discouragement from seeing something novel and thinking they identify as the same. Especially in a climate where their parents or medical providers might think that said (reasonable!) challenges to their newfound identification could lead to the child's death if they don't wholesale support their new gender identity. Which isn't -really- a problem if they're not taking medicines. Kid throws a baseball cap backwards, thinks he's trans for a weekend but then realizes she's just gay - no harm done. But you don't have to be Jonah Ryan to think that caution is advisable when dealing with very very new realities of the human experience in children. (Trans-ness isn't new, old as humans. But the life-altering and irreparable introduction of drugs and SRS's IS NEW and should be approached with care.) When I was first researching Transgender-ness (with a stolen Computer ID login so that the school couldn't trace such activities to me (yes, I actually did that in HighSchool)) there was a lot of rigors involved in being trans. As there should be with life-altering decisions. Meanwhile, in the last five years or so I've read too many comments and articles about how medical providers see providing Gender-Affirming care as a fucking crusade instead of a medical intervention to a non-acute (but important!) diagnosis. One, ONE, parent being told that by not approving hormones or SRS for their minor that they're potentially killing their child is too many. And the fact that the medical providers are trying to help doesn't change the fact that you can hurt people with well intentioned medicines. I can't believe I have to go to such lengths to explain this. I am not anti-Gender-Affirming care. I receive it myself. I WISH I had grown up in a household where I might have felt safe sharing my true self with my family and/or school and friends. Could have received HRT (after APPROPRIATE COUNSELING) around puberty. That doesn't mean that I think it's wise to make a social totem out of what's supposed to be a personal development of oneself and identity. No, the Republicans are not in the right with their Don't Say Gay stuff and banning books. It's fucking appalling. But that doesn't make you right either just because you're bola-ing to the opposite. I knew I was trans because I wanted to be a girl. Not because my (first) stepfather put his dick in me, and not because of Mrs. Doutfire. Because I'm fucking trans.
  4. Meanwhile, what a show. I am having trouble thinking of a direct analogue to Kendall's arc in this series. At the beginning he's the main character, then Shiv rose up and finally it was Roman's turn to carry the action late. It's cool storytelling, compelling as fuck. And bully for Marcia. Getting out of the game with cash in her pocket (thanks, Con) and managing to be the most morally virtuous character by virtue of a gesture that cost her nothing but empathy and human decency. Great show.
  5. I knew I was, like, a girl without Drag Queen Hour. Because it's something innate, not learned. Anybody can learn anything. That's what impressing means upon the impressionable. And no, I would not want to influence a single child into wanting to be transgender ever. It's hard. It's confusing. It's lonely and you have to take medicines for the rest of your life (if you can afford them) and look forward to surgical reconstruction of your reproductive organs (again, if you can afford them). I would never want to influence someone into thinking they identify with the opposite sex. I also think that (essential) healthcare should be free and anybody who is transgender should be able to get the treatments they need as soon as they're a legal adult - And goddammit if I had the money and resources (maybe sooner than you think) I'd make it my mission to get every trans person in America the care they deserve. AFTER they realize they're trans on their own. Mrs. Doutfire is hilarious. Every kid should see every Robin Williams movie wherein he doesn't play a serial killer or the saddest robot to ever be a living person. It had nothing to do with the fact that I turned out trans. There's a serious disconnect somewhere where liberals cry foul that conservatives accuse them of trying to turn their kids non-binary, then state "yes, that's exactly what we're doing." Wut? I disagree. Didn't the counter-culture of the sixties and seventies spring out from a bunch of Ultra-conservative veteran parents after the war ended? Like, that's what happened right? I haven't read a U.S. Social Studies textbook in a while but I'm pretty sure that's what happened. Yes, role models are important. Will and Grace was mentioned earlier, personally I think of Neil Patrick Harris a lot as an excellent role model when he was openly and awesomely gay while playing the most hilariously womanizing character in the history of sitcom. But to Will and Grace, or even Ellen... that's an example. Of someone experiencing success. Getting a show made is fucking hard, and it's an impossible achievement to dismiss when you're pioneering something like gay characters. That is showing success for an underrepresented community. Earned success. Dressing up and reading a book in a deliberately friendly space is not brave. It doesn't require anything admirable except an ability to read and be displayed. That is your purview, your choice to make on your own if you so desire; as is taking your children to such proceedings. I don't think it is nearly as impressive a feat as what the Wachowskis did and frankly (maybe a little too frank) I think it's pathetic to overstate the value of such practices. You wanna talk about being brave: Those bitches couldn't even have their own stand-in trans character displayed in their movie: made it anyway and I guaran-goddamn-tee you that The Matrix turned more little boys and girls onto the idea that there might be safe spaces to be different than any dude in a dress reading Dr. Seuss ever will.
  6. Just gonna reply to you both in one area: I do not dispute your RIGHT to have a Drag Queen Story Hour at any venue that allows for such activities. Your children are your property, you can do with them as you please. But it seriously alarms me that not-wanting to have your kids go to Drag Queen Story Hour is somehow perceived as wrong or a moral failing. I will never have children, but I wouldn't be interested in taking them to such a farce. I wouldn't take them to see a clown read a book either. A Disney Princess I feel differently about, there's lots of Princesses in books. But that's irrelevant. Those are MY feelings. Mine. I don't like clowns, don't think they belong outside of Life Expectancy if I'm in a library. And I definitely, as something of a non-binary myself, don't think that kids have to be exposed to self-expression like a chicken pox party if you're otherwise doing your job as a parent. Imitation can be self-expression. But most kids who can't read for themselves yet don't know the difference. And again, all this is not to say that I dispute anybody's right to have their under-age property read to by anything at all to their hearts' desire. But c'mon. Varys you openly state that it's a stratagem to expose the young and impressionable to gender-subversive ideas. Like that's in your fucking mission statement. But folks who don't want such things for their young, confusable, and impressionable children are inherently bigots??? Maybe they just want the kid to develop on their own. I really really resent this subject precisely because I'm now stuck trying to explain why some otherwise-perfectly-normal people might turn to Fox News and the like because that's the only place you're allowed to have an honestly, but not necessarily bigoted, negative opinion of a very very radical (expressly radical) activity. This kind of shit drives me up a wall, and is what I'm talking about when I (speaking for myself only) criticize my liberal allies. And again, again, again, this is not to say that I dispute your right to do as you please with your children when teaching them to read. I just find it disingenuous to the extreme to suggest that conservatives (my fucking opponents in a battle for the soul of my country) are wrong when they point out that you're using a stratagem to subvert childrens' conceptions of their sexual identity. Because that's literally what you're doing. I don't like having to pretend I can't see that.
  7. So, like was the announcement through Musk? Like, he personally was like retweeting DeSantis' announcement? Sorry, I don't use Twitter. I have no idea what happened and am just inferring based on what I've read here. I might have missed something about it reading through on my phone earlier, I just had/have no idea what y'all are talking about. You know I ain't no Muskie. All this stuff is gooberness to me.
  8. What announcement? I think I missed something
  9. Feeling feisty. Will weigh in. Want it or not, hear I cum: I've been raped. I'm not, strictly speaking, a real girl... but I find the "Believe All Women" slogan to be lazy and infantilizing. Never thought it was a worthwhile tagline. Not even because I think there's a bunch of gals out there making false rape claims, but because you're -by definition- assuming out of hand that a woman might not be capable of lying. Or if she is, that it doesn't matter; the man's (or other woman's perhaps, yikes, how do we resolve that?) innocence is irrelevant in the face of an accusation. I don't even BELIEVE in justice and still that's a fucking appalling moral presupposition in the pursuit of equality and protection of all persons. ALL persons. I think Bill Maher said "governing by hashtag" when talking about terminally online liberals and their concepts of social constructiveness: Correct. Drag Queen Story Hour- I've referenced this once before. I think I said something along the lines of "I just hope parents are taking their kids to the library independent of the freak show." I do not understand what it is about Drag Queening that is supposed to link to teaching kids to read. This legitimately confuses me, except that it is -obviously- a vehicle by which to advance public pro-somethingness or other. What is it, exactly, about a garishly accoutered, frankly whorishly, outfitted gentleman reading a picture book that is so precious to liberals that conservative discontent over this (in my opinion fucking weird) activity is so allegedly revealing as to their horridness as a people? Serious question. Please educate me, because I'm a trans person. I rode my bike to the library every fucking day (often to talk to a lot of y'all, no internet) when I was young. I think it's fucking weird. I'm not disputing your right to expose your kids to whatever weirdness you wanna; but I'll stick my neck out in this space saying I don't think there's a damn thing wrong with a conservative, liberal, or anything-at-all parent who doesn't understand what the fuck that's all about. The drag queen hour, more than anything else maybe, is a thing that makes me nervous about blowback. I just don't understand it, and actually have a hard time not-understanding why someone might think it's inappropriate: Not exactly age-appropriate, no matter your ideology
  10. What did Elon do? That's two tethers you've made between the men in as many threads. I've said mean things about E-dizzle but what's up? That's some hateful comparison there.
  11. I didnt say he was good at debating. I said he's amazing at debates. Country of 350 million, probably 50,000-ish actually give a fuck about substance, let alone have the tools to parse it. The rest are there for the freak show. He's gonna attack on Covid, school shutdowns, inflation, defense spending in Ukraine, say "Nukes, Nukes, scary Nukes" a few times and start ranting about Hunter's laptop. None of it has to be coherent. None of it has to be true. He just has to say it over and over again like some kind, idk, some kind of Big Lie.
  12. If I'm McCarthy, I burn everything for the chance to do this again next year. "He's campaigning in Wisconsin instead of doing the debt ceiling!" Talk about fitting on a TikTok. Goddammit, but Republicans are just better at politics. I hate them, but waddaya gonna do?
  13. And it fits on a TikTok timeline, or whatever they use. Z, I can speak for myself and maybe one or two others here I think when I say that there is no attempt to say ANTIFA or Wokies is/are as great a threat as Trumpist psychos. Or much of a practical threat at all. That ain't what I'm saying at least. The problem is that PEOPLE HATE ANTIFA AND WOKENESS People. Voters, not Twitterers. Illustration: I am a liberal. I have bargaining power at governance. I am happy to work with the kookiest of libtards. I ain't gotta like ya for you to be part of the team. I will cut off my own hands before offering them to the VAST majority of "Republicans", for democracy concerns. And I would also tell those kooky motherfuckers on my own side that they're making my job harder with their fucking insanity to their face and still be inclined to work with them. That is NOT both-sidesing the respective extremes of the spectrum. It's wanting to win. ??? Trump is amazing in debates. Don't you remember 15/16?????? Biden had Challenger Status and a genuinely statesman air about him in 2020, as well as links to a happier time. That will not be the case next year.
  14. Where do you hide yourself from me? Your radiance is a salve too long denied Meanwhile, I don't normally read articles then comment about them here (or anywhere) but I just read something about debate judges being ideologically biased these days over on The Free Press and... Yo, apparently one of these judges describes herself (in, like a pre-brief for the debaters) as a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist and wants the debaters to KNOW that before they compete under her critique. Marxist-Leninist-Maoist... I mean, Jesus-Fuckinist-Christist This is a judge! An "educated" authority! A fucking MAOIST!?!?!?!?! What the fuck did Mao stand for besides consolidation of power and murdering fifty million of his own people? ETA: and, assuming it's not a typo on the article writer's part, this person spelled "rightist" as "rightest" when saying she wouldn't vote for any rightist arguments. Out of hand. Pre-presentation. She wants you to KNOW this about her. That's fuckin wild. So glad I thought selling my life to the state was worth a ticket to such pathways of enlightenment.
  15. I think it's important to be able to critique one's own side/positions without being ostracized: Hello, Republican Party Meanwhile, I think there's three types of non-Republican/non-"independents" 1) Rearing motivated - They vote for "liberals" or Democrats, end of insight. Anti-Republican gestation or pro-Democrat gestation in formation of worldview/lever pulling is irrelevant. They vote Democrat. 2) Interest motivated - They're getting something out of Democratic Party advancement. Could be anything: Pro-Union, Anti-Cop Killings, Pro-Socialism, Anti-Fascist. Some sense of return on voting effort. 3) Response motivated - Generally young, stupid, "well" """""""" educated """"""", uninformed about actual life outside of classroom or twitter. They don't want anything except for you to know that they don't want what you want. Obviously the Republicans have literal fascists running their shit. Have literal militant groupings and have displayed intention to overthrow democracy. If I was your dictator there wouldn't be any Republicans in this country, not after Jan. 6 I ain't your dictator, don't really wanna be. Coexistence is the only path forward. I cannot alter the worldviewings and political monstrosities of the right-wing. Will not abdicate cognizance of the left-wing's deficiencies simply because it is inconvenient to some over-nurtured and poorly, though extensively, educated imbeciles who think that every thought that passes through their self-important heads is a sociological dictate from a higher power. Just my thoughts.
  16. Never seen Wild Things, but I'll concede the point. "I'm a nuhk-you-lar phys-ed-iscist" Her talents were much better utilized by my man Verhoeven. Speaking of Verhoeven, I once described Hollow Man (another fave) to an acquaintance as follows: "You like seeing Kevin Bacon in movies right? Well, imagine you couldn't see him at all!"
  17. Currently vacillating between rewatching The World is Not Enough, maybe my favorite Bond movie, and watching (for the first time) No Time to Die. Anybody got a snap-recommendation between the two? Craig is a great Bond, no doubt about it. And I am one of the few people on earth who seemed to enjoy Quantum of Solace, but Spectre was pretty disappointing. Not a bad movie, but y'know... Casino Royale - 10/10 Quantum of Solace - 7/10 (that's a perfectly good score on my scale, because...) Spectre - 5/10 (Average. Just a movie. Not really memorable in any way except for the Dr. King Schultz torture scene. It wasn't a bad movie, just a movie.) So, anyway, any Bond aficionados lurking to give me a quick recommendation?
  18. Just saw the D&D movie. Dope. Good fun. Chris Pine was fucking hilarious. I have no problem enjoying him in the Star Trek movies, all the actors in them are great, but he really shined here as Michele Rodriguez kicked ass. Fun movie. The whole cast was good. Would recommend.
  19. Caught up on Barry. What a show.
  20. I don't think you're incorrect. But I do think that you undersell his luck. "You make your own luck." - A Woman Who Chose Poorly
  21. Sorry, some unseen force compelled me to purchase supermarket seafood. I'm gonna get so sick. This might be goodbye. Don't let them call it suicide. Shrimpicide After the Supermarket is a headline I can live with : or die with, as it were
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