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One thing I actually liked about the episode was the Arya/Sansa part, it's caused such a fuss whether or not the Stark sisters were plotting this offscreen. Or they were arguing for real, Sansa got fed up and went to Bran, and told her the truth about everything.
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1 hour ago, TheSerb said:
LF is not a warrior and he's a manipulator who's definitely not stupid enough to go into battle himself and risk losing everything he's obtained. Lord Royce could have been, but I don't see him as a particular soldier either. Sweetrobin...lol. I won't even make a comment on that.
As for Sansa keeping it all a secret, it's simply more entertaining for it to be a Big Damn Heroes moment.
Yeah, the Big Damn Heroes moment could have used the hilariousness of Robin's dull-brained face leading the charge. "We're getting saved by this shrimp?! haha" Or something like that.
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Was it too much to ask that the first face of The Vale charging in wasn't an extra? Like LF, Lord Royce, or even Sweetrobin? (He's been training how to fight since 4x08... and he IS the Lord of the Vale.)
That's all I have to complain about this episode.
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1 hour ago, Fredwin said:
The way the season was paced, it seemed like after episodes 3-5 things were about to go gangbusters, full throttle into new territory. Then it relapsed. It's like you can literally see the line in the script where they stopped knowing what exactly to write.
I completely agree. I feel the passion has left the show too, they just want to finish.
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This season has tapered off for me after "The Door." I liked 6 well enough, but everything in 8 seemed anticlimactic. Tonight was a row of C-level written scenes and dialogue. I know 9 will cover both battles of Ice and Fire, but 10 has too much to cover even in 69 minutes.
Besides the usual locations, we have to revisit Sam, Euron, Hound, BWB, Brienne, Jaime, Arya, and Bran. And Dorne.
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No Sam, Bran, Dany, or Euron.
Bran is probably only 1 more appearance, the finale, when he reaches The Wall.
Sam is probably only 1 more appearance as well, signaling his arrival to The Citadel. We need to feel the threat of the WW before Sam uncovers the secret of how to beat them. So Oldtown is really S7..
And Euron is just waiting around to replace Ramsay's screentime, my guess.
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Hard to really describe how I feel... I need the rest of the season. Some really concerning pacing issues are going on, unfortunately due to the fact they weren't sure if they could include this or that (Dorne, Greyjoys, Riverlands...) because they didn't know how many episodes they had left and now they're trying to squeeze it all in.
The one pacing issue that sticks out to me is 3 full seasons of Meereen. No way that was the plan.
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I don't understand why some people are saying Arya was laughing maniacally or that she has turned sadistic. I saw her laughing at just the whole situation of arriving again to be reunited with some family and being told that they were too late (Red Wedding?) so she was laughing at her and the Hound's shitty timing and luck. I thought the scene was pretty entertaining IMO
Yeah, I actually laughed in sync with her.
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I didn't think this episode was glaringly disjointed at all, it was one hell of a ride from scene to scene. By far my favorite episode of the season so far. Examples of disjointed episodes to me would be Two Swords and First of His Name.
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The only thing that disappointed me was that it seems like Oberyn's story has been cut - the one about the scorpions and Cersei offering herself to him.
Snow castle / Lysa's fall was good stuff for as adaptations go, IMO.
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I wish the same could be said of Dreadfort nonsense. They are now 0 for 2 with their filler plot lines this season. So after Yara's stirring speech last season and her 1/2 season long odyssey to the Dreadfort we get her chased away from Theon/Reek by 3 dudes and some dogs? What the hell? How do Benioff and Weiss keep botching this shit up. There a dozen more effective ways this could have played out, even low cost ones, that wouldn't have included a clunky sword fight in tight quarters and Yara scurrying back to her boats after the first sign of any conflict.
The alarm bells you heard didn't clue you in on the fact there were far more than "3 dudes and some dogs" coming down on her, from who knows where else in the castle?
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Strangely, I'm not upset about the early Jon Arryn reveal necessarily. I'm upset about the omnipotence of Lysa's madness. I think what takes the "oh shit" out of "Only Cat" is front-loading Lysa's madness before it happens. She was a lot eviller to Sansa than she ever was to Cat in Season 1. She basically breastfed and gave the middle finger to Cat that she wouldn't help, while she's killing Sansa with lemon cakes tonight.
When you know someone is balloons crazy, you expect them to do just about anything. "Only Cat" isn't a reveal of just her as the murderer, but also a reveal and undeniable confirmation about just how far her insanity extends.
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Agreed. If they had left it at "The things I've done for you, Petyr" that would have been fine.
I liked:
-Cersei
-Cersei
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Margaery...Cersei-No Peter Dinklage
-Night's Watch vs Mutineers
-Jojen fucking Reed
Meh:
-Daenerys (one scene and done is getting old)
Did not like:
-Lysa going overboard on the crazy (felt x10 as crazy as S1 interpretation)
-There is no need to rush Sansa's storyline, I am convinced "Only Cat" is ep.7 now
-So they correct the large infodump of "Only Cat" by moving the Jon Arryn reveal earlier, into an utterly and awkward "whatever" infodump
-Fake Stark reunion (I thought I saw this like 6 episodes ago)
-Meera being taunted rape (a purely invented scene, unlike the ambiguous Cersei/Jaime scene)
-Locke's character wasted in the manner Ros's character was wasted for Dontos
My biggest complaint is the character assassination of Hodor. How dare you take his innocence like an afterthought, D&D.
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Worst episode of the season. And not just because of my first huge disappointment with the early Jon Arryn reveal. It was just overall bad.
As expected, next week looks infinitely better.
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I seriously thought they were going to throw in a glimpse of Lyanna in Bran's vision for a second there.
wasn't the shot of Ned, him in the crypts looking at Lyanna?
[Spoilers] EP707 Discussion
in E07: The Dragon and the Wolf
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Who knows, it all depends on what the writers feel like. It took Bran the entirety of Season 3 to go from WF to The Wall. Given he is a cripple, but the dead like to walk very slowly when they have no energies to expend at all and should be able to just run indefinitely toward their destination.