Renly's Plan and what he knew. in General (ASoIaF) Posted September 11 31 minutes ago, Angel Eyes said: The part about the phenotype proving that Joffrey, Myrcella and Tommen were illegitimate has always been a little suspect with me, since using that logic, only Jon and Arya would be Ned's offspring. I've always wondered how Jaime and Cersei managed to get down the tower after Jaime pushed Bran without anyone noticing, or did Bran lie at the foot of the tower for hours without anyone noticing? What does a Master of Laws do? Not really. Baratheon children with a Lannister parent, as noted in that draft tome, always look like Robert going back hundreds of years. All his bastards have the same hair as himself and his brothers. Nowhere does the book set up that all Starks or all Lannisters have the exact same hair. What it does kind of set up is that family members who marry will generally share the same looks with their children (see Tywin/Joanna-Cersei/Jaime or Rickard/Lyarra-Ned/Benjen/Lyanna/Brandon). The only exception there is Tyrion* and my god I hate that I brought that up. * plz no one call him a son of aerys'