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  1. 31 minutes ago, Angel Eyes said:

    The part about the phenotype proving that Joffrey, Myrcella and Tommen were illegitimate has always been a little suspect with me, since using that logic, only Jon and Arya would be Ned's offspring. 

    I've always wondered how Jaime and Cersei managed to get down the tower after Jaime pushed Bran without anyone noticing, or did Bran lie at the foot of the tower for hours without anyone noticing?

    What does a Master of Laws do?

    Not really. Baratheon children with a Lannister parent, as noted in that draft tome, always look like Robert going back hundreds of years. All his bastards have the same hair as himself and his brothers.

    Nowhere does the book set up that all Starks or all Lannisters have the exact same hair. What it does kind of set up is that family members who marry will generally share the same looks with their children (see Tywin/Joanna-Cersei/Jaime or Rickard/Lyarra-Ned/Benjen/Lyanna/Brandon). The only exception there is Tyrion* and my god I hate that I brought that up. 

    * plz no one call him a son of aerys'


  2. 2 minutes ago, Angel Eyes said:

    If he knew, why was he trying to get Margaery to supplant Cersei? Only a fanatic like Baelor the Blessed ever sets aside a wife. 

    Because Cersei was trying to kill him (and Robert and Stannis). See my above post


  3. On 9/9/2019 at 9:37 PM, FictionIsntReal said:

    The lack of gain to Renly at that time would be a reason for him to hold off until he's got Margaery in place.

    GRRM addressed Robert's attitude toward his brothers here:

    He was doing it to get rid of Cersei because he thought she was trying to kill him -- and she was. He says as much to both Catelyn and Eddard. He's not trying to be king; he doesn't want to die.


  4. On 9/5/2019 at 8:45 AM, Angel Eyes said:

    It actually kinda bugs me sometimes; if they were trying to make Margaery queen, did Renly know of the Lannincest and tried to usurp anyways? Did he honestly think that Robert would divorce Cersei with no contingency plan for what Tywin would do if his daughter was set aside? In all the histories of the Iron Throne, only one divorce has happened, and said king was Baelor the Blessed. Tywin could easily default on all the money paid to the Crown if Cersei was set aside. 

    He didn't know. It's pretty clear through both his actions and his words that he didn't know and doesn't really believe it when he finds out. At best he believed it after he got Stannis' letter and mocked Stannis to a small group of people to hide it, which is basically worthless.


  5. 2 minutes ago, Jabar of House Titan said:

    That's a rumor, I need more to go off of than that. Aerys II apparently had a bad habit of not finishing anything (or rather, not starting) he set his mind to.

    Baratheon propaganda. My man Aerys cooked all his plots till they were ready to serve!


  6. 1 hour ago, Aline de Gavrillac said:

    It was the tactic that limited the Frey exposure to danger.  Walder maximized his chances of success while minimizing the risk of his people getting killed by the Starks.   The Freys do not deserve to lose their bridge to support the Starks.  The Starks are not worth it and Robb does not deserve the loyalty of the Freys.  The Lannisters could have demanded the Freys give up the bridge as compensation for joining Robb's Rebellion.  That was unjustified risk.  Bloodraven took away 90% of Butterwell's assets.  Tywin is meaner than Bloodraven.  He might take the bridge and give it to an ally instead.  

    There’s basically no textual support for the the Freys losing anything much less a bridge. People who bent the knee before and after the RW were barely punished (see Brackens)


  7. 19 hours ago, Jabar of House Titan said:

    If Robb Stark had lost, why bother murdering him at a wedding banquet?

    No, when your only chance at besting an enemy is to take advantage of their good nature and lure them into a trap, you are the one who has lost. Not only that but you are desperate and outgunned.

    Meh all Walder had to do was close his gates. The northmen couldn't have forced their way across and lacked the ability to move their men across the Red Fork north of anywhere but the ruby ford, which would have been under control by Roose / Tywin's men. They would have had Robb cornered with minimal effort and could have forced him to surrender.

    Put it simply Robb could not have gone home without the Freys letting him cross at the Twins. It was simply more pragmatic for Tywin to let the Freys and Boltons commit atrocities at the RW and not take any blame for it. It was by no means necessary.


  8. 1 hour ago, Jabar of House Titan said:

    It is worth noting that there is a massive underground network of rivers and caverns that stretch from Bloodraven's Cave all the way to the Nightfort and then on to the Weeping Town in the southern Stormlands.

    So yeah...

    You're shortchanging it. Aerys II extended the weeping town tunnel all the way to Dorne to make it bloom.


  9. I doubt Jon marries anyone. Just as easy for Hoster to wed Lysa to Elbert. It makes more sense from a dynastic standpoint and a personal standpoint. Elbert is a lot younger, unmarried, Jon's heir, and hypothetically looks like Jon/Harold since he's an Arryn.

    So really not much changes until about 298 in the timeline as I'm assuming Lysa won't suffer as man miscarriages and go shit off her rocker. This is assuming it's Jon's age playing the biggest issue and not Lysa's tansy tea causing permanent damage.

     


  10. 18 hours ago, Trigger Warning said:


    Simply put, had Imry stopped I think Stannis would simply tell him to go ahead with the attack as planned and likely chastise him for wasting time but to be honest my opinion has always been that the black water's a pretty hokey battle anyway, it's written as a big fun spectacle and a lot of it doesn't really make sense, but it's fun to play devil's advocate for Imry every now and then, who I think as much as a dick as he was basically just did what he was ordered to do and unfortunately met with an unexpected obstacle, remember they never even expected them to have so much wildfire. He was overconfident but an admiral that's too cautious and manages to avoid a threat nobody expected would be a bad admiral 99/100 times too.  

    Literally none of that would have prevented Imry from sending some scout ships to verify the boom is functioning or in place at least. Stannis might have well said "fuck it" but that goes against basically every instinct he has as a methodical, proven commander. at the very least Stannis would want to guard against his entire navy being behind the chain (or vulnerable to an unknown fleet / force ) of ships preventing his non warships from ferrying boats outside the boom.

    This entire situation *screams* trap and we know that he isn't prone to rash tactical / strategic decision (Fair Isle - a trap, not attacking the Celtigar island, foregoing Dreadfort for Deepwood). Imagine how much more effective his attack would have been if his forces had attacked the riverside gates as well as the Iron gate, which is about as close to the water but on the opposite side of the city.


  11. 18 hours ago, Victor Newman said:

    Another article criticizing the Starks.  I see nothing wrong in that.  

    "Pardon for Rickard Karstark"

    He should have been pardoned.  

    Pardoned? No

    Not executed? Yes as it was the smart play.

    Hold him at RR in a nice apartment and make him join the NW after the war or when WF is retaken (in an alternate universe).


  12. 2 hours ago, Prince Yourwetdream Aeryn said:

    It would be a nice way to get rid of prince of unclear origin since Meeren should be ruled by House Targaryen too. And Controlling region like Slaver Bay is something Golden company would die for it.

    1) It's halfway across the world or farther. He wouldn't make it there by the end of the book

    2) He specifically chooses to go to Westeros

    3) Golden Company wants to end their exile

    4) Dany will need all the Westerosi allies and support she can get, and the Dornish would favor her but likely already be attached to Aegon VI

    But the most important reason

    * Why would the GC want to rule over a place where a westerosi woman with f*cking dragons can't rule properly without a Ghiscari consort, and they have no overwhelming force to cow the sons of the harpy into the darkness and inactivity?


  13. 25 minutes ago, The hairy bear said:

    It's true that Imry just carried out the orders that he had been given. But isn't that what any mediocre admiral would do? What a great commander does is to go beyond what's directly stated, take responsible decisions on the ground, and stay true to the spirit rather than the text of the orders.

    There's no need to see the wildfire husks. When entering the Blackwater Bay, Davos immediately realizes that there's a boom chain in the towers and that the largest galleys of the Lannister fleet are not there. If the scouts had come back with this information, a sensible admiral would have been more cautious, at least. Perhaps he may even deduce what kind of plan the Lannisters had in mind. 

    There are more options than that.

    Refuse to give to the enemy what he obviously wants and avoid jamming the ships too close. Land the men North of the city. Send some tentative attacks to test the water. Try to immobilize the chain by placing to big galleys above it...

    Stannis is an experienced commander. He would understand that an admiral needs to have some kind of autonomy to take decisions on the ground. Stannis would understand that when he devised his plan, he didn't know that the Lannisters would be waiting inside the river leaving the Northern bay undefended, and he couldn't suspect that there would be plenty of signs indicating there was a trap.

    It seems to me that the problem with Imry was that he was overconfident. He had a much bigger fleet, and he was convinced that he would win without effort. That's why he didn't bother to send scouts, disdained Salladhor Saan, and charged directly to the enemy without further thought.

    Honestly all they really needed to do was scout, see the booms, and make the decision to ferry the troops to the north shore and assault those gates. He had more than enough ships to engage the Lannister fleet while ferrying Stannis' men to wherever they needed to go. The really glaring thing is that they already *knew* about the boom towers from the fishermen and that Stannis had been unable to take them. They're obviously there for a reason, so avoiding a trap is basically 100% common sense.

    Edit: Also meant to add that the Florents are clearly meant to be incompetent / untrustworthy as a family. Leaving Selyse aside, Imry falls into a trap bc of stubborness and overconfidence, Alester "betrays" Stannis and his cause, and Axell is just a brown nosing, dumb asshole.


  14. On 8/29/2019 at 8:31 AM, Lluewhyn said:

    How much time passed between Lord Tywin's "retreat" from the Red Fork and the "Battle of the Blackwater"? At what point between these events did Catelyn's last chapter occur?

    This is actually one of the things that bothers me in the story, although it's more than just the nitty-gritty details like distance and time. Tywin Lannister's army has been sitting out in the field for months, and while initially successful, has suffered significant losses including one of their generals and his army, AND the loss of the army back home meant to reinforce them. They march to return to their homeland, and suffer another devastating series of losses after a week of battle trying to cross a river. Then they find out that right after they left their one stronghold in the region, it was recaptured by enemy forces. So, you have an army who's spent months in enemy territory, has suffered catastrophic loss after loss, has no remaining base of operations or known ability to return home.......and then they force march several hundred miles in the opposite direction to make it to the Battle of the Blackwater (after a detour in Bitterbridge).

     

    They float on barges from Bitterbridge down to half a days march from KL


  15. 2 hours ago, Rose of Red Lake said:

    Maybe they should clarify that it’s a secret then? And they just up and arranged a marriage for her, like the Lannister’s for a power grab. Not exactly the sincerest motives. These aren’t real relationships that are being formed and Myranda is more of the same. At least fault Sansa for her naivety for how she is being used, not her “inability to keep a secret” that she didn’t even know was supposed to be a secret.

    Nosebleeds? Nobody would really care about that. Nosebleed is better than falling off a mountain. He should have taken more time to explain. He’s the medical professional. Sansa isn’t a pharmacist.

    Nobody except the guy who knows best 


  16. On 8/18/2019 at 1:33 PM, Aline de Gavrillac said:

    Highlander was released in 1986.  I believe this the best role ever played by Clancy Brown, the Kurgan.  Kurgan's scenes contributed to Highlander's entertainment value and made it a much-loved classic film.  The actor gave the Kurgan a lot of character.  Kurgan was both menacing, funny, nutty, and smart.  


    The George Martin villain is a serious, tormented soul.  There's very little humor and his villain is not having any fun.  Except Ramsay but that one doesn't have a sense of humor.  Ramsay likes to have his sick fun but he's not in any way funny.  

    The Martin villain is either over the top disturbing and disgusting (Ramsay and Arya) or mentally sick and weak (Theon), or amoral( Jaime).  His best villain is Lord Walder.  Walder does bad things in reaction to bad things done to him but he has a sense of humor.  His lines are hilarious.  Martin also scatters along characters who never intended to become villains but whose actions led to tragedy (Jon Snow and Catelyn Stark) because of a fatal character defect.

    A Song of Ice and Fire is all the better for it because of Lord Walder.  He is the kind of charming villain that this tale demands.  

    So glad that Highlander won the Academy Award for best movie ever made


  17. 8 hours ago, Lord Varys said:

    Littlefinger has set up this whole thing rather brilliantly, converting a potential lethal poison into a tool his staff can use to manage the boy lord who is most of the time either a tyrant or a nuisance. The very nature of the dynamic there is going to mean they will use it more and more, and Sansa is actually one of the people pushing for this kind of solution.

    Whether she understands that she is killing her cousin this way and doesn't really care or whether she actually underestimates the risk isn't clear at this point. I guess we'll only get her thoughts on the matter when she is confronted with Robert's cold corpse.

     But considering that this will mean that she will control both Harry and the Vale thereafter I very much doubt she will have (m)any second thoughts. She never liked Robert Arryn in the first place.

    It's pretty clear to her:

    "It was too soon. My lady, you do not understand. As I've told the Lord Protector, a pinch of sweetsleep will prevent the shaking, but it does not leave the flesh, and in time . . ."
    "Time will not matter if his lordship has a shaking fit and falls off the mountain. If my father were here, I know he would tell you to keep Lord Robert calm at all costs."
    "I try, my lady, yet his fits grow ever more violent, and his blood is so thin I dare not leech him any more. Sweetsleep . . . you are certain he was not bleeding from the nose?"
    "He was sniffling," Alayne admitted, "but I saw no blood."
     
    Colemon literally tells her that it doesn't leave the body and it causes nose bleeds. She's sniffed out peter's games without much guidance (and recognizes that he's not someone to be trusted) but Colemon is being truthful by looking out for SR, which tells herself earlier in the chapter.
     
     

  18. 7 hours ago, Lord Varys said:

    She is complicit in the poisoning plot already. I don't think she will actually want to kill Robert, but she already rationalized endangering his life for short term goals. I don't expect her to become a vile poisoner - merely someone who follows the path she is on where it leads her.

    Nobody said anything about power for its own sake ... power can be a means to an end. To avenge herself on Cersei, say. To restore House Stark to its former glory. To finally show the people who pushed her around what she can do. To get Winterfell back on her terms. And so on.

    Sansa is one of the few characters who actually could use power as a means to an end, not for its own sake.

    And it is quite clear that her picking up on Littlefinger's methods is preparing her to both understand politics and power plays as well as to exert power in a similar fashion. She is really good at playing the lady/queen and Littlefinger's whole subtle approach to power is really ideal for somebody like Sansa. She could really become a great player if she walks in his footsteps. And, no, this doesn't mean she also has to become a psychopath.

    I wouldn't even categorize it as short term goals. She literally thinks it could easily be Robert's life or her life. Don't have the ebooks in front of me, but her conversations (and LFs) with the Maester make it pretty clear she knows what's happening to SR but it matters less than her survival


  19. 12 hours ago, Rose of Red Lake said:

    That misses the whole thing about Bronn being able to take out Ser Vardis. These knights are fighting gallantly for glory in a sports game while the mountain clans are fighting for real. 

    Bronn picked a fight on his terms because he could (and wasn't weighed down by armor). The tournament held at the Bloody Gate is, uh, not gonna be as vulnerable as people marching through a mountain pass.

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