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  1. Pacala

    Subversion of the Monomyth

    Actually Night King defeated Danny&Jon Co. Arya killed Night King with Wonder Woman superpowers. Danny destroyed Kings Landing with 1 overpowered dragon. It`s not about the hero, it`s about his motivation, actions and the way he overcome obstacles to become a hero. Jon had no motivations, he was defeated from the moment he was born. He can`t kill Danny because he is a broken man, he has no desire to live, no motivation, no life, he can`t be there because there is nothing to drive him there. He was killed and resurrected for god sake. At the end of the story he transformed from human to Christ figure. He has no place in this story, he contradict the story. The success of this story was based on the realism of each character point of view and the way they deal with personal desires, wishes, motivation, chapter Bran, Ned, Cercei, etc., even the Martin stated No heroes, No villains. This wasn`t based on Bollywood drama.
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    Jon killing Dany doesn’t work for me

    Martin : "No Heroes, No villains. I like to do things differently". This story is not about the chosen one. IF we gonna see the book finale, i think Drogon gonna kill Jon and fly away free.
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    Jon killing Dany doesn’t work for me

    He dosen`t, he is from other world. A real person should have some sort of reaction, go mad or killherself, something. He has none, he is just a tool. Others have reactions for him. At least Christ sacrificed for humanity with a purpose.
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    Jon killing Dany doesn’t work for me

    Or someone revive him. Because hi is Christ and he must sacrifice for the greater good. As Martin said "I hate this war against great evil, i like to do different things". No Heroes, No Villains. Well i guess we have to wait for Martin ending now.
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    Jon killing Dany doesn’t work for me

    Jon Snow : "I am the shield who guard the realm of man" and Stannis saved the day. Then he dies and goes into Sandor state of mind, fck humanity, "My watch has ended" And he goes to protect his family but sadly fails again. Sansa saved the day. In case you got bored, he become leader of living against The Great Doom. And guess what, he fails again. He pass leadership to Danny and Arya saved the day. But nwm he rode the dragon and now "that is a madman or a king" Wait there is more, once again he is found in this quest to protect the mankind from Cercei the Evil and guess what, he fails again. Danny saved the day. Finally, the last boss The Mad Queen, the mother of all evil, his true love and guess what, he fails again. His queen is dead. Now back again from where we start: "I am the shield who guard the realm of men" Oh i forgot to tell you, he is the true heir of the throne. What throne, there is no throne you ask me ? Exactly. His inner fight is 0, his motivation is not present or how Jon said it to Beric "You don`t understand."
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    Jon killing Dany doesn’t work for me

    some leaders tend to become dictators. nothing wrong with Danny to become a tyrant. it`s not about their genes, it`s about beliefs, motivations, actions, etc.
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    Jon killing Dany doesn’t work for me

    This is a world about Targaryen family. You missed the point. He couldn`t killed the love. He failed the test, he didn`t overcome the obstacles that makes young boy to become a man. Usually the main protagonist(male or female) do that to overcome the greater chalenge, to destroy the evil. Danny did that, same as Sandor, not Jon. Jon is just a Messiah revived, same as Tyrion or Bran. Jon changed from human figure to Messiah figure, he contradict the whole story and Martin beliefs.
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    Jon killing Dany doesn’t work for me

    Ygritte was the enemy. "Love is the death of duty", "Duty is the death of love". Usually in a fantasy story the main hero must overcome some challenges to kill the tyrant. Jon Snow failed those obstacles and in the end become a Messiah figure who self sacrifice for the greater good, which contradict everything what his creator said. No heroes, No villains. At least Danny had the illusion of grandeur, Jon had no beliefs.
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    Jon killing Dany doesn’t work for me

    Jon was a man of duty when was on NW and he didn`t had the hart to kill Ygritte. Same situation other reaction. Character supposed to behave like a real person, at least that was Martin said. No heroes, no villains.
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    Books vs Show: How much difference?

    Martin wanted 13 seasons, HBO wanted 10 seasons, D&D 7. Why would Martin wanted 13 if he did not finished the story ? Why D&D couldn`t handle the plot for seasons 4,5,6,7 and 8 if Martin gave them material for 13 seasons ? Why would anyone wanna leave his most successful project to move to a dead one ?
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    Were you expecting something different?

    Surprised no, disappointed yes. D&D or Martin or whoever came with this finale, proposed a revolution in a fantasy world. A world based and build on kings, lord, dragons, magic, etc. Basically they killed The World of Ice and Fire.
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    Glad that’s over.

    When China make reviews.
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    So...what was the final WTF moment ?

    they gave 3+ WTF moments. they subverted that too.
  14. Jon was dumber, Danny pissed, Bran high most of the time and Drogon should have killed Jon.
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    Books vs Show: How much difference?

    probably in the books Drogon gonna kill Jon and Brann not gonna be king. But i doubt Martin gonna release the finale.
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