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  1. Han Snow

    Arya the Explorer

    I can't believe that they stole that scene. fro abe the vampire hunter... lol
  2. Han Snow

    What was the purpose of Jon Snow?

    well yeah, scratch under the surface and the triumphant music during the montage, and all these people who are broken inside, must have som form of PTSP, they all choose isolation from the ones they love. Horrible story.
  3. Han Snow

    What was the purpose of Jon Snow?

    When you think about it, most of real life people would be suicidal at this point. Especially if he is not permanently living with freefolk but just escorting them as a Night's Watchman. I mean, who in their right mind would accept NW as a fair continuation of life after all he went through. NW is NOT the real north. Celibacy and exile again, thank you, but blissful nonexistence seems preferable to that. What a downright horrible, nihilistic show this turned out to be. They all had love and family, and they chose to abandon it. And the one who should have abandoned his evil sister in favor of pure honorable love, chose to die with his evil twin. I mean, even Jon chose death and destruction over happiness. Dany was a narcissistic megalomaniac at times, but she could have been subdued and guided properly if Jon was just willing to swallow his goddamn stark honor or whatever and truly be with her. And just thinking about all this seems so in vain and stupid because the writing was so stupid. Is pure unselfish romantic love so rare in the world? Both this one and Westeros. Why is that? I can't connect to this vision of reality on a personal level because I have experienced love and I am living still, and hopefully for the rest my days, until death sets us apart, so the fates of the main characters seem even more tragic to me, not just Jon. Romantic love experienced the equivalent of the Red Wedding in the end, being brutally slain. Jaime and Brienne yanked apart, Gendry and Arya torn down, Jon and Dany, murder madness crap, even Sam and Gilly did't seem to make it if Sam is the Grandmeaster, Gilly was not even shown in the finale. Romantic love seems like an abstract concept that is destined to end in tragedy in both Asoiaf and GOT . I can't connect with that nor do I want to try.
  4. Han Snow

    How would you have ended it?

    posting this here, seems more appropriate My perfect ending for the show would have been the Night King as the final Finale boss. But there was a better way to make the ending that actually subverts expectations AND makes sense, in my humble opinion. Finale as it ended, was open ended plenty, so even more open endedness wouldn't hurt it. Here is the things I'd change. Starting with episode 4. Leave Jaime and Varys in Winterfell. They don't move south. Varys makes up an excuse, he's sick, he can't travel , something. Dany is completely aware that he jumped from the Team Khaleesi train but can't actually kill him, and does not, but kind of wishes she could and shares her thoughts that Varys betrayed her to Jon and Tyrion. Jon is kind of shocked, Tyrion even more worried, they try to reassure her that no one betrayed her. Varys actually found out about Jon's parentage through his own spy ways and decided that the smartest and safest thing for him if he was going to agitate things for Jon's cause was to stay at WF. He talks with Tyrion before he leaves for KL to join him. Tyrion remains loyal to Dany. Things move on. Miss Sandy and the dragon die. Episode 5 starts with Jon actually consoling Dany when arriving, being supportive and emotionally available to her. He is even able to have awkward pity sex. Varys already started with the letters of support for Jon, she shows one to him, he swears his loyalty to her and his love. Muh qwin!! She believes him, for now... Meanwhile outside of their quarters, Tyrion is a freak that drinks wine and waits and watches Jon as he leaves Dany's room later at night. He talks with him, saying that maybe Varys is right. Planting seeds that Dany is not mentally stable or suitable enough to rule wisely. We get that he is actually jealous. Episode moves on, bells clang and rang, BUT Dany DOES NOT destroy the entire city, she just goes for the Red Keep, which IS chock full of smallfolk, women and children, yet she goes for the keep to burn Cersei. She tries to control the damage done by Drogon, but it gets out of hand and the keep is being destroyed and innocent people killed. And we see it from Cersei's perspective who is running away through the secret entrance/exit leaving in a small boat that Qyburn prepared. We realize that the Cersei that was taunting Dany from the balcony is just some dressed up girl that was hired to double for Cersei now dying from fear and seconds later just actually dying. Clegane fight happens more or less the same, the Mountain had to be left as a decoy also. He's a fraking zombie, who cares. Arya barely escapes Dany's attack on the Keep, witnesses dying children, BUT it happens after she realized that the real Cersei escaped. I don't know how, but somehow she sees, hears, or just gets the info that Cersei escaped. We see Euron who survived the burning of the fleet and swam so he gets to escape with Cersei. Dragonfire causes wildfire to explode, so some other parts of the city also get destroyed. More innocents die. Grey Worm mistakes all of the chaos as a signal to slaughter Lannister men that surrendered. Jon is just shocked, tries to stop his troops from joining, stops the rape like it happened, orders his men to fall back. Dothraki and the Unsullied are indiscriminately killing people. Slow mo of the chaos, of Fire and blood, Drogon shrieking from the top of the Red Keep. Jon's horrified face. End episode 5. This is where I'm torn. Enough shit happened that Jon can be almost justified for killing Dany so the last episode happening as it did for real would work. But ... I'll go for a different set of events. just for fun. So, Jon has the talk with Tyrion, who tries his hardest to push him to murder Dany. After that Jon sees Arya who tells him that Cersei is alive, that Dany is mad and that she's had enough and is leaving all of this behind. Jon asks where, she whispers what is west of westeros in his ear, they hug long time. He goes to the throne room. Have you seen the children, innocent children. Dany tells her little story, tries to explain that she did what she could to control the damage, that the wildfire was not her fault. He reveals to her that Cersei actually survived. that the entire bloody attack on the Red Keep was actually futile. Dany is mad, seething with rage, wows to find her and kill her no matter what hole she crawled up in. Jon asks, even if the children are blocking the entrance? Dany composes herself, starts the topic of ruling together. They were meant to do this together. She stands next to him. They kiss. The cameras are positioned somewhat differently, so that we can see Jon going for the hilt of the dagger, almost taking it out. Almost... but actually backing out in the last second and continuing the kiss with Dany. He then looks her in the eyes and says that he is done. He wants no part of it. She can rule by herself, but she must leave the North alone, that it's off the limits for her. He also says that he'll be taking Tyrion with him. Dany is shocked, tries to reason with him, then she is flooded with emotions, she begs him to stay. She promises stuff, he says; no Dany, it is too late and turns to leave. Drogon lands in the throne room at that moment. a tear slides down her cheek. Dracarys she says. Slow mo of Jon's look of ultimate disappointment, Drogon prepares the flames and releases them! But they are not directed at Jon but on the damn Iron Throne. He melts the thing down. Jon watches it then leaves the room. Dany collapses on the floor sobbing. It's a tragedy alright. End scene. Time has passed. We see a smelly, stuffy old room in some forsaken brothel in Pentos. We hear a woman scream, a bed of blood is shown. It is Cersei after giving birth. Things did not go well. We see her pale face, short of breath, death is upon her. Jaime... is the last word she whispers to herself before dying. Her little valonquar killed her in the end. Euron is there beside the bed with a flagon of wine. Drunk to the max. the old woman that delivered the baby asks if he wants to see the baby's body. It was stillborn. He pushes her away and bolts out the door. He's getting more drunk in a brothel when 6 men with the Kraken insignia surround him, Yara walks in and says: Hello uncle. Meanwhile at King's landing another bed of blood, midwifes are tending to Dany. She gave birth to twins. She WAS pregnant with Jon's children. Lords and ladies are gathered in the new great hall to pay their respects and bring gifts. Gendry, new prince of Dorne, Sweetrobin are there, Yara's emissary, freaking Bronn, other people. Camera goes back to Dany, she smiles happily while holding the babies in her arms. Outside Drogon roars in the ruin of the old Red Keep where he nested. There are eggs there and they are cracking. Camera pans us to Winterfell. Tyrion and Jaime are talking. Sam is there also, visibly nervous. He can't find it. He was the one responsible for making the new crown for the Queen in the North, and he had it just a moment ago. Tyrion asks him to check the bag on the table. Oh there it is. The team gathers and goes into the hall where Sansa is being crowned. We see Jaime, Brienne, Pod, being the Queen's guard, we see Gilly and little Sam amongst the crowd of northern lords and ladies in attendance, Edmure is there, but who cares about him. Sansa is being crowned, afterwards Tyrion kneels and kisses her hand. they sit in the big chairs. Varys is near, looking worried but content.Camera pans out of the hall where it is snowing. We are shown the Godswood. Bran is there warging. Solemn music is playing. We are shown scenes from the show's past, the present, and some from the future. :=) Then we see the raven flying above the ship where Arya commands the North men what to do. She smiles. Watch out unknown lands, here comes the she wolf, Arya Stark The camera pans out and hurls back to the North, the real North. Up and up it goes, then down, snow is swirling, north and north and north it goes. It show us The Wall, to castle Black, where there are wildlings doing their daily stuff. Children playing, Tormund sharing his stories with some impressionable lads. but the camera pans out and continues even further north. through the woods. Alive, peaceful woods. It comes out on a snowy meadow. The snow is still slowly falling, but there is the taste of the coming spring in the air. We see a new town, village, whatever, that wildlings build. Children are playing. There is a big tent in the middle, there is a small river nearby. Ghost is walking beside someone. The King beyond the Wall enters the big tent with Ghost at his side. We expect it to be empty, but there is a honey blonde haired wildling princess inside. A small babe in her arms, suckling. Yep, it is the last tit we'll see on Game of Thrones ever :=) The camera turns on the Jon Snow, the King Beyond the Wall who smiles at sight, the camera closes on his eyes, soulful, dark eyes, then just one eye, in which we see Fire and Ice battling their eternal duel while the Game of thrones theme music plays in the background. The End. There I finished it for D&D, for George, anyone who wants it.
  5. Han Snow

    Jon killing Dany doesn’t work for me

    My perfect ending for the show would have been the Night King as the final Finale boss. But there was a better way to make the ending that actually subverts expectations AND makes sense, in my humble opinion. Finale as it ended, was open ended plenty, so even more open endedness wouldn't hurt it. Here is the things I'd change. Starting with episode 4. Leave Jaime and Varys in Winterfell. They don't move south. Varys makes up an excuse, he's sick, he can't travel , something. Dany is completely aware that he jumped from the Team Khaleesi train but can't actually kill him, and does not, but kind of wishes she could and shares her thoughts that Varys betrayed her to Jon and Tyrion. Jon is kind of shocked, Tyrion even more worried, they try to reassure her that no one betrayed her. Varys actually found out about Jon's parentage through his own spy ways and decided that the smartest and safest thing for him if he was going to agitate things for Jon's cause was to stay at WF. He talks with Tyrion before he leaves for KL to join him. Tyrion remains loyal to Dany. Things move on. Miss Sandy and the dragon die. Episode 5 starts with Jon actually consoling Dany when arriving, being supportive and emotionally available to her. He is even able to have awkward pity sex. Varys already started with the letters of support for Jon, she shows one to him, he swears his loyalty to her and his love. Muh qwin!! She believes him, for now... Meanwhile outside of their quarters, Tyrion is a freak that drinks wine and waits and watches Jon as he leaves Dany's room later at night. He talks with him, saying that maybe Varys is right. Planting seeds that Dany is not mentally stable or suitable enough to rule wisely. We get that he is actually jealous. Episode moves on, bells clang and rang, BUT Dany DOES NOT destroy the entire city, she just goes for the Red Keep, which IS chock full of smallfolk, women and children, yet she goes for the keep to burn Cersei. She tries to control the damage done by Drogon, but it gets out of hand and the keep is being destroyed and innocent people killed. And we see it from Cersei's perspective who is running away through the secret entrance/exit leaving in a small boat that Qyburn prepared. We realize that the Cersei that was taunting Dany from the balcony is just some dressed up girl that was hired to double for Cersei now dying from fear and seconds later just actually dying. Clegane fight happens more or less the same, the Mountain had to be left as a decoy also. He's a fraking zombie, who cares. Arya barely escapes Dany's attack on the Keep, witnesses dying children, BUT it happens after she realized that the real Cersei escaped. I don't know how, but somehow she sees, hears, or just gets the info that Cersei escaped. We see Euron who survived the burning of the fleet and swam so he gets to escape with Cersei. Dragonfire causes wildfire to explode, so some other parts of the city also get destroyed. More innocents die. Grey Worm mistakes all of the chaos as a signal to slaughter Lannister men that surrendered. Jon is just shocked, tries to stop his troops from joining, stops the rape like it happened, orders his men to fall back. Dothraki and the Unsullied are indiscriminately killing people. Slow mo of the chaos, of Fire and blood, Drogon shrieking from the top of the Red Keep. Jon's horrified face. End episode 5. This is where I'm torn. Enough shit happened that Jon can be almost justified for killing Dany so the last episode happening as it did for real would work. But ... I'll go for a different set of events. just for fun. So, Jon has the talk with Tyrion, who tries his hardest to push him to murder Dany. After that Jon sees Arya who tells him that Cersei is alive, that Dany is mad and that she's had enough and is leaving all of this behind. Jon asks where, she whispers what is west of westeros in his ear, they hug long time. He goes to the throne room. Have you seen the children, innocent children. Dany tells her little story, tries to explain that she did what she could to control the damage, that the wildfire was not her fault. He reveals to her that Cersei actually survived. that the entire bloody attack on the Red Keep was actually futile. Dany is mad, seething with rage, wows to find her and kill her no matter what hole she crawled up in. Jon asks, even if the children are blocking the entrance? Dany composes herself, starts the topic of ruling together. They were meant to do this together. She stands next to him. They kiss. The cameras are positioned somewhat differently, so that we can see Jon going for the hilt of the dagger, almost taking it out. Almost... but actually backing out in the last second and continuing the kiss with Dany. He then looks her in the eyes and says that he is done. He wants no part of it. She can rule by herself, but she must leave the North alone, that it's off the limits for her. He also says that he'll be taking Tyrion with him. Dany is shocked, tries to reason with him, then she is flooded with emotions, she begs him to stay. She promises stuff, he says; no Dany, it is too late and turns to leave. Drogon lands in the throne room at that moment. a tear slides down her cheek. Dracarys she says. Slow mo of Jon's look of ultimate disappointment, Drogon prepares the flames and releases them! But they are not directed at Jon but on the damn Iron Throne. He melts the thing down. Jon watches it then leaves the room. Dany collapses on the floor sobbing. It's a tragedy alright. End scene. Time has passed. We see a smelly, stuffy old room in some forsaken brothel in Pentos. We hear a woman scream, a bed of blood is shown. It is Cersei after giving birth. Things did not go well. We see her pale face, short of breath, death is upon her. Jaime... is the last word she whispers to herself before dying. Her little valonquar killed her in the end. Euron is there beside the bed with a flagon of wine. Drunk to the max. the old woman that delivered the baby asks if he wants to see the baby's body. It was stillborn. He pushes her away and bolts out the door. He's getting more drunk in a brothel when 6 men with the Kraken insignia surround him, Yara walks in and says: Hello uncle. Meanwhile at King's landing another bed of blood, midwifes are tending to Dany. She gave birth to twins. She WAS pregnant with Jon's children. Lords and ladies are gathered in the new great hall to pay their respects and bring gifts. Gendry, new prince of Dorne, Sweetrobin are there, Yara's emissary, freaking Bronn, other people. Camera goes back to Dany, she smiles happily while holding the babies in her arms. Outside Drogon roars in the ruin of the old Red Keep where he nested. There are eggs there and they are cracking. Camera pans us to Winterfell. Tyrion and Jaime are talking. Sam is there also, visibly nervous. He can't find it. He was the one responsible for making the new crown for the Queen in the North, and he had it just a moment ago. Tyrion asks him to check the bag on the table. Oh there it is. The team gathers and goes into the hall where Sansa is being crowned. We see Jaime, Brienne, Pod, being the Queen's guard, we see Gilly and little Sam amongst the crowd of northern lords and ladies in attendance, Edmure is there, but who cares about him. Sansa is being crowned, afterwards Tyrion kneels and kisses her hand. they sit in the big chairs. Varys is near, looking worried but content.Camera pans out of the hall where it is snowing. We are shown the Godswood. Bran is there warging. Solemn music is playing. We are shown scenes from the show's past, the present, and some from the future. :=) Then we see the raven flying above the ship where Arya commands the North men what to do. She smiles. Watch out unknown lands, here comes the she wolf, Arya Stark The camera pans out and hurls back to the North, the real North. Up and up it goes, then down, snow is swirling, north and north and north it goes. It show us The Wall, to castle Black, where there are wildlings doing their daily stuff. Children playing, Tormund sharing his stories with some impressionable lads. but the camera pans out and continues even further north. through the woods. Alive, peaceful woods. It comes out on a snowy meadow. The snow is still slowly falling, but there is the taste of the coming spring in the air. We see a new town, village, whatever, that wildlings build. Children are playing. There is a big tent in the middle, there is a small river nearby. Ghost is walking beside someone. The King beyond the Wall enters the big tent with Ghost at his side. We expect it to be empty, but there is a honey blonde haired wildling princess inside. A small babe in her arms, suckling. Yep, it is the last tit we'll see on Game of Thrones ever :=) The camera turns on the Jon Snow, the King Beyond the Wall who smiles at sight, the camera closes on his eyes, soulful, dark eyes, then just one eye, in which we see Fire and Ice battling their eternal duel while the Game of thrones theme music plays in the background. The End. There I finished it for D&D, for George, anyone who wants it. Good night.
  6. What? Gods, Hyperion Cantos are at the top of my favorite books, but unlike ASOIAF, there is quite a few things that could and should be changed when translating to tv format. I am having the same reaction to the last season as you. I wonder how much does George truly hate the show's last years, or how much of the inconvenient truth is he willing to admit to himself about total and absolute ineptness of Benioff and Weiss... and how much will the reaction of the audience, especially the book reading audience, affect his own writing, I mean, if he ever gets to write the ending... I wonder if we'll ever get to Mars with a human crew... I wonder how many Milky Way rolls takes to fill an Olympic pool... I wonder...
  7. Han Snow

    Nativity

    Depopulation is the main political goal of western elites guiding the civilization. D&D no doubt belong into a group that would be pushing hard towards that direction.
  8. Han Snow

    The aftermatch of the decision made by D&D

    I'm listening to the conversation between Jon and Dany before he stabs her, and it is kind of funny, as in Dany stands for D&D with saying that it is not easy to see something that was never seen before, then Jon asks her about other people's opinions on what is good, and Dany/D&D answer they don't get to choose.
  9. Han Snow

    Varys motives to return a Targarian to the Throne

    What? It was clear as day to me that Varys was filling Aerys's mind with rumors and whispers that mad the mad king even madder. Varys is a Blackfyre man in the books through and through.
  10. Han Snow

    A Beautiful Tragedy...

    I've made my peace with the show. The writing was never at the heights of the quality the books have reached. Not even in season 1 or 3. But it was excellent a lot of the times. Yet the show as a whole was a majestic and magnificent achievement from all technical angles. Gods, at times I thought I was watching an oil painting come to life. see this video for reference Unprecedented beauty. The acting... Phenomenal, Peter, Nikolaj, Lena brilliant, but go watch Jon kill Dany and say that Kit Harrington and Emilia Clarke are not ... they are not just acting, they are living as Jon Snow and Daenerys, truly astonishing. Even the smaller roles. Once the source material vanished D&D wanted them to communicate through their eyes alone, we know why, but, gods they almost pulled it of 99% of the time. I... am grateful that something like this was a part of my life. I truly am. And I actually respect Dan and David. They set out to do something that was thought about like something that couldn't be done. And maybe they were not competent enough for it to be as magnificent as it should have been, but they did prove that it could be done, that it could be so beautiful... I'm quite certain that George always intended ASOIAF to be a tragic story. A classic tragedy in form of a fantasy saga. And maybe, just maybe the show should have abandoned his ending. I love the last episode, but my rational mind is rejecting Dany as mad, because in spite of everything that was foreshadowed, hinted, and shown in the show I DO NOT BELIEVE she would willingly burn children. The entire premise of the tragedy lies in Dany being the irredeemable avatar of fire and destruction, much like some ancient Targaryen ancestor of hers became the avatar of Ice and destruction, the Night King. She too became death. But if there really was no time to make more episodes, seasons actually. David and Dan should have realized that the show should not walk this path. That perhaps, despite all of its poetic beauty GRRM's version of the ending brings, that it just did not fit the show as it is... Maybe I'm wrong. Only future will tell. Maybe it's only my sadness talking, but I really think that a plain old happy ending would have been better, they could have shuffled things around, left the Night King as the ultimate bad guy ending, kill a lot more people fighting him and have Jon and Dany rule together, hell make Sansa QITN... Would it endure the test of time better that way? Or will people be more forgiving in the future when they watch the version that we got? Will the show as it is now be remembered as a timeless classic? Well, for me it will.
  11. Han Snow

    Destiny of Jon Snow

    True, true, true. I hope GRRM just kills him of in the books if he doesn't intend for Jon to rule as a king in the end. Such a sad sad destiny, twice banished, the ONE TRUE king. the TRUE messiah of that world, forgotten in the end. But his WAS THE SONG OF ICE AND FIRE. Even D&D can not take that from him.
  12. incredibly tragic sadness...
  13. Han Snow

    Destiny of Jon Snow

    this man's life was beyond sad. a true King twice banished... maybe Val is out there...
  14. This season was pure and utter shite. but this is the best ending to all this shit. There was no way imaginable not even one in a 14000000 that somehow the show was going to be good after the fast track they pulled in the last episode. and yet... I quite enjoyed the finale, it was the optimal best that d/D could have delivered. They are not capbale of more and on that grade scale I award this episode a 10. Out of all the things that got to me, was Brienne writing about Jaime. Jon discovering Scotland or Greenland, Arya sailing to USA, Ghost. No, I got broken emotionally by Brienne. What the hell was that with Bran. They cut something out, because it was weird as hell. Anyway, after three 1/10 episodes, I give this one a 10. Because apparently I don't know the numbers between them, I'm totally wasted. And this is probably the only resolution to this saga that we'll ever get sadly, so... a 10 it is.
  15. Han Snow

    Protagonist suddenly goes crazy in last chapter of epic

    Dany was jamming hard to this song after Jon Snow made a yuck face and refused her for the second time. maybe the children of King's Landing would still be alive if he just did his duty.
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