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Tywin Tytosson

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  1. So in 1946, the US should have demanded that Britain submit to annexation? France also? Belgium? The Netherlands? Denmark? I'd ask the same about the Soviet Union and nations like Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland (its eastern half, pre-War), among others, but the Soviet Union did just as you say.
  2. You do realize that that would paint Dany in quite a bad light? Willing to allow a million people (the whole North) to die if they won't bend the knee. Wow. What a tyrant. That's in the territory of (in modern times) Stalin. Definitely in the territory of Cersei, who did just that. Dany agreed to help w/o asking the North bend the knee. Then she expects the North to do just that. Dany apparently lacks the ability to understand the viewpoint of those who disagree with her and also the ability to compromise. Bad things to lack in a ruler.
  3. That isn't conveniently ignored. The North thanks Dany and is grateful to her. But they still want their independence and won't willingly kneel to her. Similar to the Free Folk. They were saved too, but didn't bend the knee. I don't understand what you mean by your last sentence. The North did not view her as their ruler. With the lone exception of Jon.
  4. Bingo. And Sansa's sparring with Dany wasn't treason. It was just politics. Politics between 2 people with conflicting agendas.
  5. Tywin Tytosson

    Great battle plan! Dubious tactics discussion.

    You know what? I'll buy this. It makes the most sense, to me. Provoke the attack, see how it goes, then fall back. I'd also like to mention that show!Dothraki seemed to use more of a frontal charge tactic as opposed to using their bows and feinting tactics. So a charges is what they were going to do, if used to provoke a battle.
  6. Sansa did not view Dany as her queen, so to Sansa it was not treason. Sansa was defending the North and it's hard-won independence. Sansa is not Littlefinger, even if she has learned things from him.
  7. Dany went into that meeting (for lack of better words) with the intention of doing what she did. She was offered the Dosh Khaleen, but refused. She was going to burn down that structure. The Khals would be killed, yes. So would anybody else inside. It just so happened that there were no 'innocents' harmed. A counter point re. careful to not target innocents is her initial Plan when she gets back to Meereen. The Plan includes returning 3 (maybe 4) cities to the dirt. Men, women, children, old, and young. Master and slaves. If Tyrion wasn't there to talk her out of it, that's what she would have done.
  8. I disagree. Viserys had threatened her (unborn) son. So (from her perspective), he had to die. She was not in shock. We see it again and again - Dany reacts violently when one of her children are harmed or threatened with harm. I'll have to reread those chapters, now. I don't remember how she reacted in the books.
  9. I wouldn't say it came down to that. It's more : Ice bad, fire bad. Fire is needed to defeat Ice, but then Fire has to go as well. Just like after the first Long Night, the wolves gets to rebuild. Brandon the Builder did found House Stark, among his other alleged accomplishments. True. Very true. They certainly are.
  10. Tywin Tytosson

    Samwell as Grand Maester

    Gotcha. I guess that is was charcoal grey, which I misinterpreted as black.
  11. Tywin Tytosson

    Samwell as Grand Maester

    I wouldn't have minded seeing Ebrose again. But I doubt he wanted to leave the Citadel (he's the epitome of a Professor in his/her Ivory Tower). So, unless the King specifically requested him, he would make sure the Citadel did not choose him as GM.
  12. Tywin Tytosson

    Samwell as Grand Maester

    'Insult' is a tad extreme, isn't it? I'll admit to being surprised that Sam was GM, but I just 'went with it'. Others I was watching with (who are not book readers) were happy for Sam. Edit: I did expect Sam to end up as Lord of Horn Hill.
  13. Tywin Tytosson

    The Perils of a Reluctant King

    Cersei and Robert's marriage was arranged by Jon Arryn (I think) in an effort to bring the Lannisters firmly into supporting the new regime. The Lannisters were the richest family in Westeros, and could help with funding. With the Lannisters, the new regime has the backing of the North, the Vale, the Riverlands, the Stormlands, and the Westerlands. Part of the debt, and maybe a large part, was due to Littlefinger's embezzlement and constant borrowing to cover it. Littlefinger's embezzlement would only be uncovered, if it ever really was, after Tyrion took over as Master of Coin.
  14. Tywin Tytosson

    Samwell as Grand Maester

    Pycelle book spoiler Re. another GM not being appointed, I took that to indicate that Cersei did not want the position filled. Especially because the Citadel could send her someone who was not 100% loyal to her. Cersei's 'Small Council' was down to the ever-loyal Qyburn, and she was just fine with that. In essence, she had what she wanted - personal rule. Bran wants a fully staffed Small Council, so he requests a new GM. I suppose asking for Sam.
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    Samwell as Grand Maester

    Quibble. It looked like Sam did have a forged link on his chain. Maybe 2. Why is Sam wearing a white robe, when other Maesters (outside the Citadel) wear black? Pycelle, Luwin, and Wolkan all wore black. A case could be made that Sam has learned the historical and medical knowledge required for the GM position. But has he? I guess this would depend on the situations of the ruler and Citadel when such requests are made. It's a bit of the reality not matching the ideal, perhaps. True. We have to wonder if he Citadel changed its traditions. And if they did change, then why? We have seen some changes to the Old Order. A Queen in the North. A female Lord Commander of the Kingsgaurd. A woman even in the Kingsguard. Great Councils at the death of each King, to choose a successor. That or fill in the missing pieces with our own head-canon while we wait for WoW and DoS.
  16. No, you do not. I agree re. Tywin - he was quite a good ruler as Hand to Aerys. Fortunately, King Bran doesn't have the power to directly enforce unpopular decisions. At least not now. No dragon. No standing army. No bureaucracy. A realm in relative ruins after so much war. But a good question. Very understandable. It's one thing to give advice. Another to rule directly. It may be better from Bran to stay the 'Voice in the Tree', as you say. It many respects, it can be better to be the power behind the throne rather than sitting on it. The old 'grey eminence', as it were. Oh I agree. A King (really an Emperor) saying this won't be believed by all of his/her subjects. Especially by those whose own agenda conflicts with 'the greater good'. Bran could be ruthless, yes. I picture in a coldly logical, Vulcan kind of way. And also in the way that Leto II Atreides was as God-Emperor of Dune as he set humanity on his Golden Path. How does that saying go? One persons hero/savior is another's tyrant or villian?
  17. Well... Machiavelli did try to describe an 'ideal ruler'.
  18. This isn't a requirement for a medieval/feudal kingdom. Or even early modern kingdoms. I would say 'citizenship' only became a requirement with republics and democracies. To wit: England (or the English Parliament) chose William of Orange as their king in 1688/1689. William was Stadtholder of the Netherlands. After Queen Anne, England chose George I of Hanover as their King. Hanover was part of the Holy Roman Empire (Germany, the first Reich) and was an Elector who chose the German (HRE) Emperor. King George's son (King George II) and grandson (King George III) held the Hanoverian title, including the Electoral title. George III was King during the American Revolution and also during the French Revolution and the subsequent Napoleonic Wars. Poland elected Duke (and Elector) Frederick Augustus of Saxony as King Augustus II in 1697. Saxony was in the Holy Roman Empire (Germany). His son was both Elector of Saxony and King of Poland. Emperor Karl V was already King of Spain when he was elected Holy Roman Emperor (German Emperor) in 1519. But he was born in Ghent, which was in the HRE, I believe. Empress Katherine II of Russia, though not elected, was born in Pomerania (Prussia) to the German family of Anhalt-Zerbst.
  19. You are absolutely correct. The show didn't explicitly tell or show us. So we have to resort to our own head-canon answers.
  20. True. Cerseis's power should have been very brittle. We should have seen or hear of various rebellions against her. re. the Tarly's, Cersei (or Jamie) offered them the Wardenship of the South. The Tyrells in the show were going extinct, So their bannermen would be looking for The Next Thing (tm). It does seems that other Reach lords follow Randall Tarly in supporting Cersei. In particular the "marcher lords" on the borders with the Westerlands. Cersei does convince them that Dany may be mad like her father, that few in the Realm liked. And that Dany may just ignore the 'social contract' that the Crown has with the nobles. Quibble/Question : how is Cersei a kinslayer? It isn't. I just 'refuse' to be put on the defensive or be labelled. The phrase 'patching up problems' is an attempt to put the 'other side' on the defensive. we really don't have much to disagree about then. I never said season 8 was perfect. far from it, sadly. there should have been 10 episodes. or even 16 - 2x8 episode half seasons. I can see what the showrunners wanted to communicate, and think that the overarching story and story points are there. But the details ... well, the Devil is in the details, isn't it? That's fair. As I said, I can see the overarching story, but don't think that enough groundwork was laid or time taken to get from A to B, as it were. So I guess that I don't think that it was profoundly stupid. It just wasn't executed as well as it could have been. As part of that, I do think that Dany received too much 'good press' for too long. She was lauded up as an infallible heroine past when her faults should have been showing. An interesting article that I read mentioned the excised prophecies re. Dany and how their inclusion may have made Dany's 'other side' more obvious or explainable. Sadly, your are correct. They are not part of the show, so they have to be 'made up' or inferred. But that's part of the fun, eh? Oh but for the Mummer's Dragon! With 'fAegon' being excised, Cersei had to carry the brunt of his story. With Jon picking up the rest.
  21. Tywin Tytosson

    Robert Baratheon - Not so bad after all

    This has no relevance on Robert being a good or bad King. Killing Dany and her child removes a dangerous threat to his rule and to Westeros.
  22. Tywin Tytosson

    Robert Baratheon - Not so bad after all

    I thought that Varys very much feared Stannis, and thought that he would be a terrible king. True, the realm could have done far worse. Was he based on Tiberius? Does he have any basis in Phillip II of Spain?
  23. Tywin Tytosson

    Robert Baratheon - Not so bad after all

    The scene was all good fun, like many of the scenes with Tyrion and Bronn.
  24. Interesting. I think that I agree with this, the more that I think about it.
  25. I wouldn't call anybody involved in the show's production 'lazy'. Nor call the writing 'lazy'. Lazy is not the same as having to meet hard deadlines and going with the best that you can come up with. I am not saying that it wasn't bad, or that things could not have been done better (they could certainly have). But 'lazy'... no.
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