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500 pages left is too much unfortunately.  This really doesn't sound good.  I know George wants to release a quality book, but maybe it's time he sends his editor what he has, even if it's incomplete.

I just have a question.  I may have missed it, but was there any mention of what happened to Gilly?  If Sam is the Grand Maester, he most likely had to leave Gilly.  I hope she's ok.  Maybe she stayed at Winterfell.  She is a Northern girl afterall.

That line by Tyrion about "asking him in 10 years" tells me they're leaving the door open for more seasons.

Just now, Skills said:

I'm confused..is there even a NW anymore? The two Crows that escorted Jon to Castle Black looked official enough

  But why would they need a NW anymore?  

As a prison I guess.

1 minute ago, Skeletor said:

How long before tycoon pushes bran out a window

That council with Bronn looked like something out of Monty Python.  But oh well, the episode could have been much worse.

Ok, it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.  At least they dealt with the power vacuum that we had seen in the last few seasons in most of the kingdoms.  I'll give it a 7/10.

4 minutes ago, Areisius said:

Yeah, Arya should have died but I still have still think she will meet her end in the final ep.

I doubt it to be honest

So why was Cersei upset about not getting the elephants?  How was she planning to use them?  I guess we will never find out.

The episode is titled "The Bells"

Just now, Mystical said:

How is Jon even still a candidate to anyone for the throne? He is complicit in everything that happened here. He bend the knee to Dany even though he didn't have to. He constantly re-affirmed that Dany is their Queen and she shits gold because he's so freaking spineless. He dragged the North into the throne fight so the North also committed these atrocities.

How, just how is this guy in any way, shape or form an acceptable candidate for any throne?

Yes Jon doesn't deserve the throne.

Here it is.  D.B. Weiss explains everything.  Dany started killing people, because she takes it personal.  What? LOL

2 minutes ago, TheValonqarThatWasAzorAhai said:

So the Mountain is more than a mindless zombie. I guess his hate for his brother overshadows everything.

Who else was hoping the Mountain said no when Cersei commanded him to stay by her side?

Why did the Mountain hate his brother?  I thought the hate was one-sided, and the Mountain is just an evil man.

I kind of liked the episode, but then Aegon the Conqueror turned into Viserys the beggar king.  I'm sure D&D will explain how that happened, but it didn't work for me.  Jaime beating Euron, and then Euron claiming he killed Jaime Lannister was ridiculous.

The final scenes with Arya, were just bad.  I get it, D&D love Arya, but that was seriously stupid.  A horse?  Just stop it D&D.  And yes, lets celebrate incest.

2/10 for me.

9 minutes ago, Clan O'Raghallaigh said:

So, does Gendry now have a better claim to the iron throne over both Jon and Dany?

No because if Gendry has a better claim, than Dany isn't the legitimate queen, therefore her legitimizing Gendry wouldn't work.

This was a much better episode than the last one.  But I really don't like what they're doing with Dany.

43 minutes ago, Kaguya said:

This 

 

Wtf

They wanted a lot of red shirts (Dothraki) to die.  It's that simple.  It doesn't have to make sense.

3 minutes ago, Jabar of House Titan said:

I know it's about Sansa and Littlefinger.

I'm just saying that the showrunners paid homage to that prophecy by having Lady Mormont slay giant in the Winterfell yard during a blizzard.

I doubt they did it intentionally

1 minute ago, Aderyn said:

Yes it was the Starks. They punched and clawed their way through the stone tombs... Which I thought pretty impressive. Stark wights must have some special powers, otherwise the whole army of the dead would have stormed Winterfell by simply fisting through the walls...

Ok, so that actually happened like many were predicting.  But there were no casualties.  Not sure what to think about that.

By the way, what happened in the crypts?  Was it the dead Starks that were woken by the Night King?  I was confused by that.  Did anyone understand where the dead came from?

7 minutes ago, CrypticWeirwood said:

I think Mel counts as a dea ex machina, not a deus ex machina. Or Arya does.

One thing I'm glad of is is that it wasn't the storybook ending of some dashing sword-wielding hero like Jon defeating the big bad guy.

That's exactly what Arya is on the show though.  It's a complete cliche.  It wouldn't have been a sword-wielding hero if it was Melisandre who killed the Night King.

Just now, willowbark said:

If NK doesn't exist in books, then there would't be a single person to kill the NK.  MAybe in books, AOTD is settled differently.  They have already said that there are some changes from book/show, while major points are still the same, and they won't tell us what those changes are. 

Or, if Rhaegar hadn't stolen Lyanna, then Brandon would marry Catelyn Tully, and Arya would not be born.  So maybe it's that.

There is the Great Other.

I think it would have worked better if Melisandre was the one who destroyed the Night King.

3 minutes ago, Raksha 2014 said:

Most memorable for poor little Lyanna's killing a zombie giant; and for the Sansa/Tyrion moments.  The rest of it, meh, too dark, too murky, too many zombies, and how did Arya get by the zombies and White Walkers to sucker-stab the Night's King?

I asked the same question.

1 minute ago, Ser Yorick Ampersand said:

Don't forget her sidekick - Ser Fingerin Thebum

lol this is ridiculous.

Just now, Ser Yorick Ampersand said:

Extremely disappointed. Everything in this episode is so bad. Couldn't see half of it because it was too dark.

I got even more disappointed after watching the preview for next week.

I'm done with the show.

So the ultimate villain is Cersei?