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    Doctrine of Exceptionalism

    This why I wonder what was his true intent with Lyanna. If he and Lyanna were afraid that the king and Realm would not accept their union, then it would be hopeless for him to be accepted by the realm after the rebellion. Rhaegar's council/roads not taken would not be given a second thought if the realm can't behind him and Lyanna bigamist union. Aerys was mad but it was Rhaegar cause the rebellion, the execution of Brandon and the other lords were the catalyst. He and Lyanna would ultimately be blamed for it.
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    Doctrine of Exceptionalism

    If polygamy wasn't legal what was Rhaegar intention with Lyanna abscond with her? If his intent was to have another child, then a legitimatized child would have been the answer? Though I'm not sure Lyanna would want her child to be a bastard and her to be viewed as a whore or mistress by Westerosi society. A polygamist marriage seems to me would have been accepted if king Aerys allowed in the first place, and I don't think so. The two seem to have been odds with each other after Duskendale. And if Rhaegar was going with legitimatization route, the Starks would have undoubtedly been against it has it, as it would have sullied the honor of House Stark - who I remind everyone are Lords Paramount of the North and a great house, not unlike the Brackens and Blackwoods.
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    Doctrine of Exceptionalism

    You're probably right that the DoE was just background material for the Targaryen's to display their specialness to the rest of the seven kingdoms. I personally suspect that Martin probably didn't put too thought into Doctrine of Exceptionalism before Fire & Blood's release, he was to busy with the main series and all. I originally used to believe before Fire & Blood's release that Jaehaerys simple reasoning was that incest is more important to the family into keeping the dragons within and because it is a more ancient tradition that Valyrian dragonlords practice. Incest is also a major taboo in the Faith of the Seven, taboo in the sense it was equated to being punched in the stomach for a pious follower of the Faith - and I guess you can say adding polygamy into the mix would be like kicking dirt into a man's eye when he is down on his knees. It would have been a major humiliation for the Seven. Jaehaerys simply prioritize what was more important to the dynasty survival, in this case, incest. And because of that, he was called the Conciliator for his wisdom into compromising with the Faith. Thus avoiding the last major conflict to his rule. Though you reasoning that Jaehaerys's hatred for Maegor could be right, him soiling polygamy for the entire dynasty probably didn't help either. I kinda wonder if Aemond One-Eye had any plans to revive the practice again, such has his secret marriage to Alys Rivers and his betrothal to lord Borros's daughters would have played out.
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    Doctrine of Exceptionalism

    I'm curious Ran, did George purposefully leave out polygamy of the Doctrine of Exceptionalism to further expand upon it in the main series, such as Winds of Winter or Dream of Spring. The world book mentions that Aegon IV was perhaps musing over whether or not to give his blessing into allowing Daemon to marry Daenerys. And it also mentions Aegon's murmurs wedding to Megette, aren't these both hints of bigamy/polygamy in series that will address in tales of Dunk and Egg. Odd that none of the main characters mention the Doctrine of Exceptionalism in the main asoiaf series or that why polygamy was outlawed?
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    [Spoilers] Fire and Blood Errata

    I see my bad, I must mistaken his death with Eustace Hightower. In page 350 of Fire and Blood, The Great Council of 101 Boremund Baratheon is mistaken for Princess Rhaenys great-uncle and the great-great-uncle of Laenor apposed to uncle and great-uncle. This retcon or mistake.
  6. I'm pretty sure by now that Laenor and Rhaenyra had an open relationship. Laenor content of the relationship if it meant he could still be prince consort to the heir of the Iron Throne. There is no mention in the Princess and the Queen of Laenor's reaction to Alicent Hightower remark on his three sons not looking like him (I'm not sure about Fire & Blood not at the reign of King Viserys yet, still reading).
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    [Spoilers] Fire and Blood Errata

    I'm not sure if this an error but it mentions that Jonquil Darke is bastard daughter of Lord of Duskendale. Did her father legitimize her by marrying the mother? And in the book, it's mention that Lord Daemon Velayron died of the shivers but is alive when Lucamore Strong is sent to the wall and one of his bastards is sent to live with Daemon on Driftmark.
  8. Hey Lord Varys is there any information on what happens to Aegon the first crown, in the world book and princess and the queen its mention that Aemond wore his brother's crown during his brief regency. Did it wash up shore with prince Aemond's corpse along with Dark Sister and was it taken by Alys Rivers to be worn by her infant son by Aemond.
  9. Do we have any more information on what Maegor was doing in the Pentos and if he had any dealings with the Prince of Pentos?
  10. Is there any information on why prince Aegon chose Silverwing has his mount. He'd become a dragon rider rather late in his life compared to his siblings. King Maegor didn't want any other dragon except Balerion the Black Dread was Aegon planning the same idea. To take a giant dragon-like Balerion or Vhagar when Maegor or Visenya die? But ultimately took Silverwing to show the realm he was Aenys heir.
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    [SPOILERS] Family trees and successions

    Is there any information on Alyn and Addam childhood upbringing. Aren't Addam and Alyn just peasants, their education should be very little compared to a bastard raised in noblemen's household. I always wonder how did Alyn become such skilled admiral if his mother and maternal grandfather just raised him and his brother. Did Corlys Velaryon finance two brothers education and upbringing from afar. Bringing them a man-at-arms or a sworn sword to teach them arms and scribe for education; teaching them to read and write.
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    [SPOILERS] Jaehaerys and Alysanne

    On the Doctrine of Exceptionalism, how were the Faith willing to accept this bull, did Jaehaerys strong arm the Faith under the pretense of dragon fire? This rule could easily backfire on the Targaryen dynasty if they are dragon less an ambitious lord can easily cow a weak-willed king an into marrying his daughters into a polygamist marriage. Kinda like with Viserys and Alicent, Otto must have convinced Viserys into marrying his daughter. I guess I can see were Rhaegar got his brilliant idea of abduction from. His thinking he could get away with a bigamist marriage is sounding more likely more real than not.
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    [SPOILERS] Jaehaerys and Alysanne

    Did any of other lords respect Viserys, you mentioned that Jaehaerys want to bypass Viserys for his third son Vaegon. It seems that the Dance was inevitable, the Great council proposed by Alicent would have gone nowhere. Does Jaehaerys have to accept the popular vote of the lords to name his heir or can he refuse!
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    [SPOILERS] The Regency of Aegon III

    Did any pretenders claim to be the decease Daeron the Daring ever showed up? They are mentioned in the World of Ice and Fire and said to have caused quite a problem for Aegon III. Did Unwin Peake have any involvement in any of it, he was the last lord to see Daeron alive.
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    [SPOILERS] Jaehaerys and Alysanne

    Lord Varys was primogeniture brought up in the Great Council of 101. Did any of the great and small lords bring up the fact Jaehaerys succeeded his two nieces Aerea and Rhaella? Aerea was the heir to Maegor should he die. Did any remind Jaehaerys of this and did it affect his decision regarding Rhaenys claim?
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    [SPOILERS] Jaehaerys and Alysanne

    And a bit more information on this new Daenaerys. Did George added a new daughter or did he just renamed a previous child of Jaehaerys?
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    [SPOILERS] Jaehaerys and Alysanne

    Lord Vays can you give any details on why the Faith of Seven allowed the marriage of Jaehaerys and Alysanne but rejected Aegon and Rhaena. And if polygamy was ever officially abandoned by the Targaryens during Jaehaerys reign.
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