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  1. John Suburbs

    What if Tywin joined Robert's Rebellion (properly)

    Never. Jaime is the reason for everything he did.
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    Why marry Sansa to Tyrion in particular?

    Makes one wonder how Mace and Lady Olenna truly love their Margaery, given the husbands they dumped on her.
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    What if Tywin joined Robert's Rebellion (properly)

    Jaime would have been killed in the most tortured, publicly humiliating way imaginable. Everything Tywin did was out of fear that the MK would kill Jaime. It's why he stayed neutral until the royal army was defeated, why he feigned friendship with the crown even after the Trident, why he initiated the sack (to get his men close enough to the Red Keep to get Jaime out quickly). It was all about Jaime. So none of the other scenarios are plausible because as long as the MK held Jaime, Tywin could do nothing in defiance of him.
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    Question: Do we know Val and Dalla's family tree?

    It might be nothing more than Gilly having adopted the baby, so that makes him Craster's grandson. But maybe not...
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    The betrayal of Roose Bolton

    It's hard to say exactly when he started plotting with Tywin. Maybe as early as the sack of Winterfell. Remember, though, they staged it to look like the ironmen torched the castle as Ramsay was trying to liberate it, so at that point Roose has a plausible way of ingratiating himself to either Robb or Tywin. To me, that sounds like something Roose would think to do, not Ramsay. So I think it's fair to say that Roose joined Robb's cause with the same kind of cold cunning he brings to everything: remain outwardly loyal but make sure you leave all options open in case things go bad. I also wonder how deep Roose's loyalty to either Tywin or Walder Frey goes. He certainly would not have been ignorant of the fact that Sansa Stark's claim on Winterfell is stronger than Arya's. So what was his plan if Sansa suddenly produced Tyrion's child and they decided to claim his seat?
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    Why marry Sansa to Tyrion in particular?

    It kind of fulfills a number of requirements for Tywin: 1. It provides a match worthy of a son of House Lannister when pretty much all other houses refused him; 2. It brings all of the north under Lannister domain, which, along with the westerlands, riverlands, crownlands and stormlands represents well over half the kingdom; 3. It gives a symbolic thumb in the eye to the rebel northern houses by installing a dwarf as their liege; 4. It pretty much removes Tyrion's claim to Casterly Rock, since he can now turn Winterfell into a brothel if he wants. Also I don't think Tywin really cares one way or the other how Sansa feels about the marriage. She is merely the vessel through which he will extend his control over the north. Also, I doubt Westerosi consider dwarfism to be inherited. It's been around long enough that they would have seen a recurring pattern if it was. As far as we know, there are no dwarfs earlier in the Lannister line.
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    Dead signs

    Right, so there is text that indicates the wildlings of old buried their dead. Is there any text that indicates that it was traditional to burn them before the wights reappeared? By North, I'm assuming you mean north of the wall. The North below the wall was a kingdom for thousands of years before Torrhen bent the knee to Aegon. But I don't think there was a separate kingdom in the lands now occupied by the wildlings. Mayhaps before the Wall went up, one or more of the northern kingdoms might have stretched partway into that region, but there would certainly have been at least some old tales of an independent kingdom. At best, there are the Thenns, which function like a kingdom except that they elevate their Magnar to god-status.
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    The Others and the Sidhe

    That is very wise of you.
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    Biggest Mistake Made by Robb

    Well, there's a difference between falling in love and getting married. The love potion can take care of the love part, but it's character that delivers on the second. From what I read during the council meeting when all of this was being discussed, they were counting on Robb's inclination to maintain Jeyne's honor in order to produce the marriage, not fear of fathering a bastard: Given that Robb's own father had a bastard, one might assume that Robb merely having shagged Jeyne in a fit of emotion-laden passion might not be enough to produce a marriage. But if Robb felt he was deeply and truly in love with her and would do anything to spare her shame and embarrassment … I don't see how a simple nightmare would cause someone to push away their true love, but I suppose it's possible. But wouldn't that cause one to wonder whether he is still in love with her at this point? I'm not sure Olyvar Frey would have had enough sway over Robb to prevent the marriage, but the fact that he didn't suggests even further that Robb was under the influence of something powerful and not willing to listen to reason.
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    The Others and the Sidhe

    Only the evidence that this has yet to be observed. Sure, the conventional approach would be to link the Others and the wights together, but when has Martin ever taken the conventional approach? I'm not saying it is or it isn't -- just that a wise man does not accept anything as fact until it's proven.
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    Dead signs

    Are we certain of this? They burn their dead now, because they are rising and killing of late. But is this traditional?
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    The Others and the Sidhe

    Not only is it possible that the Others and the "white cold" (which may or may not be the horror that Bran saw in his coma dream) might be two separate things, but there is also a distinct possibility that the Others are not the ones raising and reanimating the wights. After all, we are five novels into the series and we have yet to actually see this. In fact, we have never seen an Other and a human wight in the same place at the same time. The closest we get is the Other riding the dead horse during Sam's encounter in the Haunted Forest. But then he just dismounts the horse and we never hear of it again: no blue eyes, no compulsion to slay the living... Apparently, it just meandered off somewhere to do whatever it is that dead horses do with themselves.
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    Biggest Mistake Made by Robb

    It doesn't seem like Jeyne is aware of what Sybell is doing. The poultice to make her fertile was most likely doing the exact opposite, but she would have known this if she were being schooled in the dark arts. And her distress during the convo with Jaime seemed genuine to me, so I'm going under the assumption that Jeyne was not part of the plot. Yes, it probably would be fairly easy for Jeyne to fall for young, handsome King Robb. But again, with so much on the line, would Sybell be content to just hope this happens, or would she take steps to make sure it happens? I'm not so sure Tywin was counting on Robb's reaction to having a bastard as much as it was to deflowering Jeyne. With the love potion still active, he isn't likely to just abandon her to her tears and her shame. Plus, she would have both Sybell and Rolph in his face taking about how kings should do the honorable thing, or else go down in history like AtU.
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    The Others and the Sidhe

    I was pointing out the inconsistency of your original post. They cannot have this single-minded desire if the end of the Long Night resulted in Others still living among men. Yes to your point about offerings, but in Craster's case there is a quid pro quo here. He sacrifices his sons and the Others protect him when the "white cold" comes. Notice how he seems to be making a distinction between the Others and the white cold. Being able to reason and being willing to reason are two different things. I never said that the Others will reason with men, just that they could if some mutually agreeable resolution can be found. There had to have been some kind of agreement at the end of the Long Night, otherwise either the Others or men would have been extinguished north of the Wall. Nothing is certain regarding the Long Night, which is why your original characterization of them as "single-minded zombies" is inaccurate. But I don't see that anymore in the OP, so I guess we're good.
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    Jon Arryn and The Truth About Cersei and her Bastards

    That's a good question. Would Jaime deny it? Probably, since it would cost him his life if he fessed up. I doubt Robert would confront him in private. Most likely, all this would happen in court, with Jon and Stannis laying their charge and Jaime right there to answer it. A more interesting question, though, is whether Cersei would let it get to that point, or would she get rid of Jaime?
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