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  1. MoIaF

    [SPOILERS] Jaehaerys and Alysanne

    I think Rhaegal is Vermithor's son and more likely than not, Drogon is Balerion's son or grandson. “Rhaegal was made of the green of summer and the bronze of fall. They soared above the ships in wide circles, higher and higher, each trying to climb above the other.” - Daenerys I, ASOS “At her command, one produced an iron key. The door opened, hinges shrieking. Daenerys Targaryen stepped into the hot heart of darkness and stopped at the lip of a deep pit. Forty feet below, her dragons raised their heads. Four eyes burned through the shadows—two of molten gold and two of bronze.” - Daenerys II, ADWD “Vermithor was feasting on the flesh, tearing loose great chunks of meat with each bite, but when the king approached with Lord Rogar, the dragon raised his head and gazed at them with eyes like pools of molten bronze. “ - Fire and Blood
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    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    Of course not. They've set up Cersei as Daenerys' foil for a few season now. At the end of last season we saw the stark difference between these two. In the final episode of the season, one Queen (Daenerys) gives up her ambition, which she has worked towards for 7, season in order to go save the world. The other queen (Cersei), having seen the terror that is coming towards Westeros chooses to ignore the threat and continues her pursuit of power. She is so consumed with the taking and retaining of power that the threat of the end of the world is not strong enough to dissuade her of her obsession. There's only one mad queen in this series and her name is Cersei Lannister. There will not be a second, that's redundant and against any form of god storytelling.
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    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    Bless you for doing the lord's work but I wouldn't waste my breath. Those who have been wrong about Dany's character so far, aren't about to get it right. There's no dissuading some people. They can't admit that they've been wrong this whole time. "Daenerys will never sail to Westeros" - Yes, she's there right now. "Daenerys will never go North to fight the Others" - She's on her way there right now. "Jon is going to despise Daenerys" - he's so hot for her he's practically melting. In fact, the show is so intent in making sure that we know that Jon loves Dany that they have Bran voice over saying "He loved her." as Jon stairs at Dany. It literally couldn't be any more obvious. "Daenerys and Jon will never have a child" - If they had made it any more obvious that a baby it's on it's way I would have been embarrassed by the show. I thought they were so obvious about the incoming baby Targ that I was already a little embarrassed. But apparently, they weren't obvious enough for some people. "Bonus" - Jon and Dany will get married and they will rule together. George R.R. Martin has compared both Daenerys and Jon to Aragorn and they both do share important traits with him. However, deep down we all know the Jon and Daenerys are GRRM's version of Aragorn and Arwen.
  4. You're very welcome. For me it was clear but you're not the only one who didn't pick up on it right away. There's a blog dedicated to collecting clues both in the books and the show that pointed towards a Jon and Dany union. Here's the site, if you're interested. https://thechroniclesoficeandfire.tumblr.com/
  5. From book one AGOT: “The fire is mine. I am Daenerys Stormborn, daughter of dragons, bride of dragons, mother of dragons, don’t you see? Don’t you SEE? “ i.e. Daughter of Targaryens, Bride of Targaryens, Mother of Targaryens. Don’t you see, Don’t you SEE! Like all good first books, it gives us a clear clue as to where the story was headed. Later in the series we see the yearning that both Jon and Dany have for a family they believe they cannot have: JON ASOS “I might someday hold a son of my own blood in my arms. A son was something Jon Snow had never dared dream of, since he decided to live his life on the Wall.” DAENERYS ADWD “I will never have a little girl. I was the Mother of Dragons.” This is not the type of thing that is brought up if nothing is going to come of it, it's brought up because the author wants you to keep it in mind for when it actually happens it's either a surprise or, if you were paying attention, it confirmation of your theory. There are many clues hinting at the union of Jon and Daenerys, in both the books and the show. So we know they're going to be a couple, add to this the other clues that exist that Dany will have a child and it's not hard to put 2 and 2 together. For example, Dany's final two chapters in AGOT and her final two chapters in ADWD (she has 10 chapters in both books) share an awful lot of similarities. If you recall Dany has a stillbirth in AGOT Daenerys IIX and in ADWD Daenerys X she has a miscarriage and there are similarities between these two events. First, Dany finds herself in the Dothraki sea for both and right before she has her stillbirth and miscarriage, this happens. AGOT Dany IX “Mirri Maz Duur was there, the maegi, tipping a cup against her lips. She tasted sour milk, and something else, something thick and bitter.” ADWD Dany X “Its flesh was tart and chewy, with a bitter aftertaste that seemed familiar to her.” Then, in both instances she forgets a child : AGOT Dany IX (after waking up from her fevered dream): Flying, she thought. I had wings, I was flying. But it was only a dream. “Help me,” she whispered, struggling to rise. “Bring me …” Her voice was raw as a wound, and she could not think what she wanted. Why did she hurt so much? It was as if her body had been torn to pieces and remade from the scraps. “I want …” *** Dany needed … something … someone … what? It was important, she knew. It was the only thing in the world that mattered. *** They found her on the carpet, crawling toward her dragon eggs. *** Jhiqui would have run as well, but Dany caught her by the wrist and held her captive. “What is it? I must know. Drogo … and my child.” Why had she not remembered the child until now? “My son … Rhaego … where is he? I want him.” *** She should weep, she knew, yet her eyes were dry as ash. She had wept in her dream, and the tears had turned to steam on her cheeks. All the grief has been burned out of me, she told herself. She felt sad, and yet … she could feel Rhaego receding from her, as if he had never been. ADWD Dany X Drogon killed a little girl. Her name was… her name… Dany could not recall the child’s name. That made her so sad that she would have cried if all her tears had not been burned away. I will never have a little girl. I was the Mother of Dragons. There is a progression going on in the books. Dany's story is cyclical in nature and she is the Child of Three, a version of this even will repeat itself but the conditions surrounding it will be very different. It has to be different in order for her to give birth to a live child because the first two times, when a lot of the conditions where similar, she lost a child. ETA: I forgot to note that the first quote happens before Dany walks into the pyre and hatches the dragons.
  6. I thought they had made it abundantly clear last season that Dany will get pregnant in season 8. I've known that she was going to have a child with Jon since season 2, the clues in the book shave been pretty clear. Jon telling Dany that the witch could have been lying should have been the nail in the coffin of any doubt that Jon and Dany's baby was coming next season. I imagine she'll give birth second to last episode or the last episode. The heir needs to be born before the series is over. They really don't need to explain anything. A women can spend years trying to get pregnant, the one day boom it happens. This is a normal occurrence. It could be as simple as Jon was the right person at the right time.
  7. MoIaF

    [Book Spoilers] R+L=J, A+J=T and other theories on HBO V.4

    The Missandei bit was definite foreshadowing for the Field of Fire 2.0 I went back to listen to to what Tyrion said to Dany in episode 6, to me this was more related to the banging us over the head narrative they had all season about Dany continuing her legacy and skmehow selecting/producing a successor, more than anything else. i.e. If she wants to create a lasting difference than she'll needs a legacy. I think this might indicate she'll be more cautious once she finds out she's pregnant. I would find it repetitive for Dany to die the same way as Ygritte and in the books I don't see anything indicating she'll die that way. ETA: Jon has gotten hit by arrows and him and Dany parallel each other so much that she might get hit as well. And as I noted above this might make her reticent to fight if she finds out she's pregnant.
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    [Book Spoilers] R+L=J, A+J=T and other theories on HBO V.4

    I only remember it being mentioned twice, or where there's more instances? Also, it seemed to me they were alluding to the arrows shot at her in the Firld of Fire 2.0. Which coincidentally was a parallel to when the arrows where shot at Jon in the Battle of the Bastards and they all missed.
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    Re-read Project Resource Page

    Apparently the changes I made a couple of months ago just disappeared. I've added them but I'm not keen on this new site layout.
  10. What's up Doc?

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    Re-read Project Resource Page

    Okay! I'm back!     You are very welcome! I found some Cersei stuff but I didn't see a proper re-read started. If anyone can find any let me know.   If there isn't one, there probably should be.       Added! Thanks for the suggestion Evita!     Got it - I've added it to the list.       Thanks and thank you for pointing out the typos. They're fixed now.       You are very welcome! That was the idea behind it. I got tires of having to search through pages to find old re-reads, even the ones I'd started. It should also (hopefully) make it easier for participates for new re-reads.   Thanks all for your feedback!
  12. Welcome to the resource page for the re-read forum! Here you will find an index of all the re-read projects that have been conducted to date. This is a resource to help you search easily through the forum for all the in depth discussion on your favorite characters. I will update the page as more projects are conducted. The projects will be noted in alphabetical order. Character-based Re-read Projects Arianne Martell: Trial by Folly: The Arianne Martell Reread Project [TWOW Arianne I spoilers] Trial by Folly: The Arianne Martell Reread Project - tWoW spoiler chapter Arya Stark: Becoming No One: Re-reading Arya Becoming No One: Rereading Arya II Becoming No One: Rereading Arya III Becoming No One: Rereading Arya IV Bran Stark: "The Winged Wolf" A Bran Stark Re-read Project - Part 1: AGOT The "Winged Wolf" A Bran Stark Re-read Project - Part II ASOS & ADWD Catelyn Tully (Stark): Family, Duty, Honor: The Catelyn Re-read Project Family, Duty, Honor: The Catelyn re-read project Part Two - Clash & Storm Daenerys Targaryen: Daenerys Stormborn - A Re-Read Project Part I: AGoT Daenerys Stormborn - A Re-Read Project Part II: ACoK & ASoS Daenerys Stormborn - A Re-Read Project Part III: ASoS & ADwD Daenerys Stormborn - A Re-Read Project Part IV: ADwD Daenerys Stormborn - A Re-read Project Part V: ADWD Daenerys Stormborn - A Re-read Project Part VI: ADWD Khaleesi to Mhysa: Khaleesi to Mhysa: A Daenerys Re-read A Daenerys Character Arc: A Daenerys Character Arc Reread I A Daenerys Character Arc Reread II A Daenerys Character Arc Reread III Daenerys: Rethinking and Remapping a Protagonist: Daenerys: Rethinking and Remapping a Protagonist Dragons stirring - A Heretical look at Dany: Dragons stirring - A Heretical look at Dany Daenerys Targaryen: A Parallel Journey (parallels betweeh Dany and Arya, Bran, Cersei, Jon, Eddard, Sansa and Stannis). The Parallel Journey of Daenerys Targaryen & ... Part I The Parallel Journey of Daenerys Targaryen & ... Part II Davos Seaworth: The Last King`s Man: Rereading Davos Eddard Stark http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php?/topic/102870-eddard-analysis/ Jon Connington: Jon Connington from exile to apotheosis, two ADWD chapters Jon Snow: The Jon Snow ReRead Project! The Jon Snow Reread Project II AGOT-ACOK The Jon Snow ReRead Project! Part 3! The Jon Snow ReRead Project! Part 4! (FFC-DwD) Jon Snow ReRead Project! Part 5! (DwD) Jon Snow ReRead Project! Part 6! (DwD--Pink Letter!) Lancel Lannister Lancel Lannister's Identity Arc Maester Luwin: Mini Reread: Maester Luwin Quentyn Martell: Prince Mud: The Quentyn Martell Reread Project Sandor Clegane: The Will to Change: Rereading Sandor The Will to Change: Rereading Sandor II Sansa Stark: From Pawn to Player? Rereading Sansa From Pawn to Player? Rereading Sansa II From Pawn to Player? Rereading Sansa III From Pawn to Player? Rereading Sansa IV From Pawn to Player? Rereading Sansa V From Pawn to Player? Rereading Sansa VI Stannis Baratheon: A truly just man? - a Stannis reread Theon Greyjoy: what is dead may never die: a Theon Greyjoy reread project Tyrion Lannister: Rereading Tyrion Rereading Tyrion II (AGOT-ACOK) Rereading Tyrion III (ACOK) Rereading Tyrion IV (ASOS) Rereading Tyrion V (ASOS-ADWD) Rereading Tyrion VI (ADWD) Victarion Grayjoy: Victarion Re-read Project BOOK-based Re-read Projects General Book Re-read Projects: Direwolves: Six Pups in the Snow: A Direwolves Reread Mormont's Raven: Mormonts Raven-a re-read Mormont's Raven: A Reread v2 Old Gods, cold gods and Starks: Old Gods, cold gods and Starks: a Heretic re-read Rethinking Romance: Rethinking Romance: Love Stories of ASOIAF Rethinking Romance: Love Stories of ASOIAF, Part 2 AGOT Re-read Projects: Direwolves, Dragons [eggs], Momont’s Raven, and Cats, Oh My! Pets or Providence? AGoT Reread: Direwolves, Dragons [eggs], Momont’s Raven, and Cats, Oh My! Pets or Providence? Part I AGoT Reread: Direwolves, Dragons [eggs], Momont’s Raven, and Cats, Oh My! Pets or Providence? Part II ADWD Re-read Projects: Learning to Lead (Dany and Jon): Learning to lead? A re-read project of the Dany and Jon ADWD chapters Learning to Lead II: The Wrath of the Decision Makers? A re-read project of the Daenerys and Jon chapters from ADWD Learning to lead III: the search for decisive actions, a re-read project of the Daenerys and Jon chapters from ADWD Learning to Lead IV: sucess in failure? An ADWD Daenerys and Jon reread project Learning to Lead V: endings and beginnings. A Daenerys and Jon reread ADWD reread project
  13. MoIaF

    [Book Spoilers] EP508 Discussion

    Well, especially given that you need dragonfire to make Valyrian Steel, I think there is a good chance dragon fire can kill them.
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    [Spoilers] EP505 Discussion

    No you aren't the only one: http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/128675-poll-how-would-you-rate-episode-505/?p=6979229 We are all very upset.
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    [Spoilers] EP505 Discussion

    He's not. I would say that if there is indeed a Harpy it would be the prostitute that was present at both the attacks against Dany's people. She was directly responsible to White Rat's murder and she directed the Unsullied into the ambush. I'm certain that she is playing a role in the terrorist organization, that they have decided to showcase her says to me that it's an important role. ETA: He can be in cahoots with the SoH but he's not one of the leaders.
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