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  1. 37 minutes ago, Winterfell is Burning said:

    Are we supposed to be deeply upset someone that ordered a child who's a member of his family to be murdered in the book murdered his wife in the show?

    I don't have anything against Daemon being shown as the monster he is. My gripe is with the handling of this scene in the show. They portray the wife as annoying and condescending towards the husband as if "the bitch had it coming". She even thinks that the husband came to kill her, so that she acts first and she literally ends up having it coming. Even then, they give the agency to the horse instead of the husband. They let the wife be even more annoying on the ground so that the husband who was walking away would feel no guilt about "mercy-killing" the wife. Yes, the whole thing looks like it was not cold blooded murder but Daemon mercy-killed the bitch of a wife who had it coming.

  2. 43 minutes ago, C.T. Phipps said:

    Like I said, I think Daemon didn't kill his wife out of calculated planning.

    Because Daemon doesn't plan.

    He's objectively terrible at it.

    That is the excuse used by the show writers to exonerate/glorify a fan favourite character that murders his wife. I don't understand why people are not mad with how the writers handled this scene. This shit should cause more controversy than the entirety of GoT.

  3. 6 minutes ago, Werthead said:

    House of the Dragon is having moments of almost equally weird dumbness - Daemon Leeroy Jenkinsing his way into a battle, but wins, and Rhaenyra, Heir to the Realm, vanishing for a day and a half and everybody being really chill with it - but I think it is benefiting from a focus that RoP lacks, and the moment-to-moment scripting is far superior, although to be fair GRRM's writing style is far easier to ape than Tolkien's.

    Agreed. Though to be fair, the source material RoP has to deal with is much more problematic than Hot D.

  4. 3 hours ago, C.T. Phipps said:

    Rhaenyra won the war but the sexism of the Westeros culture marks her as a usurper.

    I mean, this is wrong. The show keeps saying that the Lords of Westeros would never suffer a woman on the Iron Throne. Nevermind the fact that half of them will fight for Rhaenyra till the bitter end and then some. The same is true for the books. GRRM back in the day wrote this king list where Aegon II is counted as the king and he has no choice but to roll with it. But it doesn't make sense why the blacks won the war but still consider Aegon II as the official king. It is not like Maegor who did a lot of uncontested ruling that it is hard to ignore him.

  5. Re: 2 seasons to set up the dance

    There may need to be 2 seasons of material shown before the Dance starts. But no watcher would have the patience to wait for 2 seasons for the basic premise to kick in (especially with such long years between each season). That scenario would fail similar to how American Gods failed. The much hyped war between the gods was delayed and delayed and delayed until it never really happened. 

    But the bigger problem lies with the source material. Dance is never properly narrated as a novella or a novel. It is just part of a collection of dry, often contradictory historical accounts. It does not have a beginning or an end. It does not have proper cast with definitive roles (main characters, side characters etc.) It does not have a proper, optimal dramatization. In short, it is not a “story” yet. The first task of the writers is to turn it into a narrative, starting with where to begin. Just like writing history, the historian can't start writing from the Big Bang. Only after we have a proper narrative, we can talk about what is necessary to set it up properly.

    Just as I expected, the script so far suffers because of this. There are awkward jumps, lots of characters whose necessity in the story is questionable (even though they are cutting many characters), some events that may turn out to be utterly redundant and so on. The basic premise is still not clear. The hook is absent (unless you count the Aegon's dream retcon as the hook). If the source material was written as a proper story, there would be a clear beginning and an end, there would be a proper hook, the timeline would be condensed, the characters would be merged and consolidated, the plot and sub plots would have no gaps etc.

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