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  1. LordToo-Fat-to-Sit-a-Horse

    Predict her future: Penny

    There is not much foreshadowing about her fate. Maybe she dies. Maybe tyrion kills her. I like the theory that she is Tyrions daughter. Maybe she is mortally wounded during the battle, and tyrion uses his poisoned berries to ease her passing. And then while dying she starts singing Tysha´s song,
  2. LordToo-Fat-to-Sit-a-Horse

    The Younger More Beautiful Another? Queens or Noble Ladies or Princesses

    IMHO Its Myrcella. What Cersei holds dear is power. But she only rules through her children. the books won´t go Hbo´s way. That´s just dumb, Cersei has no claim on the iron throne. She won´t be queen in her own right. She will be Queen Regent (once the tyrells are defeated) until one of her children becomes an adult (which wont happen of course), or the someone else takes the throne and kills them (which is of course what Cersei will fear of the prophecy once Dany arrives westeros). The Tv Show made Myrcella die of poison, and Tommen commit suicide. In the books is tommen who will die of poison (Tyene´s doing of course), to pave way for Myrcella´s ascension to the throne and the final act of the KL´s storyline. Show tommen, had a season of defiance against her mother. Making pacts with the Sparrow to undermine her and so on. This of course is non sense in the books because tommen is like 5 years old... but myrcella is older. Smarter. Strong willed. She is a nice girl. She won´t put up with Cersei´s madness quietly. When Daenerys arrives, Cersei will fear fate. Younger queen and the most beautiful woman in the world (some say). Cersei of course thinks physical beauty is one of the few weapons women can possess. She won´t think of Myrcella as a potential candidate for YMBQ (the injuries will also help here), therefore the reader won´t be expecting it. But when KL is starving, besieged, under threat of being burnt, Myrcella, who is a kind person (a different sort of beauty), will want to surrender the throne, give up the city to spare its people (jaime will have tell her by now the truth about the twincest)... .Cersei will of course refuse, and probably have her locked up in some of Maegors Keep´s towers. You see where this is going... To save her people and end the war, Myrcella will jump, hence stripping away Cerseis power.. this is when Cersei goes full mad, and triggers the Mad Queen Widlfyre plan. futheremore, theres a theme in asoiaf of princesses committing suicide. Gael, Helaena, Jaehaera, Aelora...
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    Euron's Plan after Oldtown

    not implausible. Im just saying everyone assumes Euron will sound the horn in oldtown. Why would that bring down the wall on the other side of westeros?. Joramund already blew the horn once, and the wall is still standing. So, given that the children already made a World-wide cataclysmic event that shattered the arm of dorne, and flooded the neck, (and perhaps even turned the iron islands into islands if some theories are correct) which also is described as waking the giants of the earth, maybe its because they actually did it in the Gods Eye, with blood sacrifice in a weirwood forest. its just a theory, im not claiming its true. It just feels right to me. As for Rhaegal. Dragons only have one master. We know this. The hellhorn will only work on one. And Victarion.. he´ll fail if not during the battle of fire, shortly after. Poisoned gifts and all that. The dusky woman will betray him. he trusts her with handling the horn, and shell turn the mastery of it back to euron. the dragon will just fly back to his master. Its the other side of the world, but by late TWOW, he should be able to reach Euron. Euron is only using the ironborn to get his dragon and his dragonbride. He couldn´t care less about his army and the ironborn once that happens. the same way he gave up the Shield islands, he could give up Oldtown once he is done.
  4. LordToo-Fat-to-Sit-a-Horse

    Euron's Plan after Oldtown

    Is he though? sounding the horn in Oldtown? This could put the event as early as half into TWOW. . Rather i think he will do so in the Gods Eye. The wording that describes the effects of the Horn of Winter are exactly the same as that of the Hammer of the waters. Waking the giants of the earth = Earthquakes. Maybe thats exactly what the Children of the Forest did, back in the Dawn age: Sound the Horn of Winter, to break the world. if they did, one of the theories the maesters have is that they did so in the Isle of faces. In a weirwood forest that seems as magical place as we will get in the entire planetos. Maybe it works as a magical amplifier of sorts. I think Euron leaves the ironborn behind after he gets Rhaegal and the horn of winter. Disappears from the narrative for a while. And Dany later hears about Rhaegal in the Gods Eye.
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    Euron's Plan after Oldtown

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    Euron's Plan after Oldtown

    Maegor vs Prince Aegon, Aemond vs Daemon, its kind of where the dragon duels take place... and that dream of Euron with a forest burning behind him in the foresaken chapter must mean something. i have nothing to back it up, but if something brings on the Long Night, the burning of the mysterious Weirwood forest island could very well be it. its where allegedly the CotF brought down the Hammer of Waters, which has wording very similar to that of the horn of winter, "waking giants from the earth and all that" euron thinks himself as a god of the apocalyse.... Gods Eye.. Crows eye. i don´t know obviously this is probably 7th book material we will never get to read, but if feels right.
  7. LordToo-Fat-to-Sit-a-Horse

    Euron's Plan after Oldtown

    Best speculation ive seen about his path after oldtown is to fly Rhaegal to the Gods Eye. Where he eventually has his final showdown with daenerys.. And maybe burns down the forest of the isle of faces.
  8. LordToo-Fat-to-Sit-a-Horse

    The Future of Melisandre

    George will need her POV for the first part of TWOW, while Jon is out. Her role will be to resurrect Jon. The manner is unclear. there are i think three strong theories.: a) There is a funeral ("and now his watch is over " kind of thing) performed by Melisandre in the fashion of the religion of Rhllor, and when she performs the last kiss, Jon is raised miraculously from the dead, similar to Thoros-beric. b) in a ceremony alike the Mirri Maz duurs ritual to revive Drogo. "strength of the beast go into the body" kind of thing, where Ghost must be sacrificed c) A typical sacrifice in the Pyre, but not of shireen, rather Gerrick kingsblood and his son ... (or maybe its a combination of all three) as for shireen, she must be sacrificed by stannis himself for it to be charged emotionally, otherwise is just cheap. So this must happen when Stannis and Melisandre are rejoined. Probably in Winterfell, theres a scenario in which the castle is besieged (by the others?)., and Stannis in desperation does the unthinkable. In fact i have the theory that Melisandre will manipulate Devan seaworth to convince Stannis to do it. (she will glamour him as Davos). either way, this should probably happen in ADOS, not in TWOW. Theres also the possibilty that she will produce another shadow assassin (there are hints of this in her POV chapter)...For what purpose is unclear. One theory is that she might want to Kill bloodraven, who she thinks is the chapion of the Great Other.. and this will in turn destroy the magical wards of the cave and trigger the Others attack, as in the show.
  9. LordToo-Fat-to-Sit-a-Horse

    The role of Jon Snow in TWoW

    1) yes, the mutineers will want to preserve it for when Ramsay arrives. To show that they punished the traitor. 2) no 3) no, but theres a theory that after jons murder, theres going to be fighting between Queens men/wildlings vs the mutineers. After the first party wins, theres going to be a typical NW funeral "and now his watch is over" and so on, and Melisandre will perform the Last kiss on the dead,... and jon will miraculously rise.
  10. LordToo-Fat-to-Sit-a-Horse

    The role of Jon Snow in TWoW

    Stannis ground his teeth again. “I never asked for this crown. Gold is cold and heavy on the head, but so long as I am the king, I have a duty . . . If I must sacrifice one child to the flames to save a million from the dark . . . Sacrifice . . . is never easy, Davos. Or it is no true sacrifice. Tell him, my lady.” Melisandre said, “Azor Ahai tempered Lightbringer with the heart’s blood of his own beloved wife. If a man with a thousand cows gives one to god, that is nothing. But a man who offers the only cow he owns . . .” I would say, the only reason Stannis would sacrifice his daughter is to fight the others (the only enemy that matters in his own words) in a desperate situation. Some have speculated that his arc ends in winterfell under siege by the dead, starving,...Then, in desperation, he gives his daughter to the flames to hatch a Vermaxes dragon egg and save the living. when it fails, he commits suicide. But again, if so, where is Jon Snow, and is he King in the North? i suppose the scenario above could work as well in the night fort, with the Others at the Wall.
  11. LordToo-Fat-to-Sit-a-Horse

    The role of Jon Snow in TWoW

    i suppose this can help get stannis out of Jons way easily, but i dont like it. See, it must be stannis that burns his own daughter, its him who must make that sacrifice for it to be charged emotionally. If Melisandre does it in the wall, while stannis is south in winterfell, it means nothing.
  12. LordToo-Fat-to-Sit-a-Horse

    The role of Jon Snow in TWoW

    I think by the time jon is resurrected, (F)Arya will have already left for Braavos with Justin Massey. After jon is resurrected i expect he will punish the mutineers (if they are still alive). He will resign the NW, leaving Edd in command. Jon will want to fight the Boltons, so he will have to raise a wildling army. Tormounds people will join him (recall that line from the show "they look at you as if you were a god", having jon back from the dead will certainly give him an aura). By this time, the weeper will have taken over the shadow tower. I think Jon will fight him in single combat, and take over his raiders. Then he will go to East Watch by the sea, and the giants there will join him. Maybe he will meet with Davos, Rickon and a skagossian raiders and then march south to meet Ramsay Bolton. Stannis is an issue... The gardener aproach means the author wrote early on foreshadowing and hints of future important plotpoints, and then he works around the events to make them happen. George probably wants Stannis to sacrifice Shireen (that means he must survive his war against the boltons to rejoin Melisandre and shireen), while at the same time have Jon become KiTN... theres also some hintsof the future Battle of the bastards in the long lake. whats the point in having a battle of the bastards if Stannis will win the battle of ice? How can George consolidate both things? well, one way is to have Ramsay march north BEFORE Stannis can take winterfell. Stannis wins the battle of ice, sends the karstakars and manderlys with his sword to Winterfell. Ramsay writes the pink letter and quickly rides north. Stannis has no horse left, if Ramsay leaves before stannis can take winterfell only jon can stop him before he arrives CB. either way, eventually george will want to bring out that seed he planted back in ASOS, with Robbs Will and have Jon crowned KiTN, so stannis will keep being a nuisance there. Some people speculated that the northern lords will side with Jon, and Stannis will have no choice but to go back to the Wall (where he expects justin massey to return with a sellsword army) where he will rejoin Melisandre and shireen. either way its complicated. I expect the northern plot is the one thats bringing George the worst headaches.
  13. Gardening aproach made him write himself into a corner... well not exaclty a corner but similar. The garden just grew out of control....he is a juggler with way too many balls in the air. making all fit together and keep consistanct seems impossible. Perhaps it actually became too stressful to deal with, and when this happens procastrination could soon follow, which would in turn explain the lack of progress. Almost 3 years ago he thought he could finish the book in a couple of months.. either he was lying, or he just cant deal with the new "Meereense knot" he might be trapped in.
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    [Spoilers] EP707 Discussion

    Poor george. Honestly, i try to turn my brain off each time i watch GOT, but..... the dialogue, the writting, the inmensely stupid plot twits..its awful. How could he let this happen...
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    The House of the Undying Ones

    im not sure either. but the visions are the response to Dany asking for help to understand the prophecy of the treasons, mounts and fires. And then the undying show her the visions of the slayer of lies, daughter of death, and Bride of fire.. 9 visions that match the three triplets of treasons, mounts and fires. It would make sense if the 9 visions corresponded each to one of the treasons, fires or mounts profetizad before. even if the order is not clear to the reader... instead of just being a compilation of visions of unrelated events.
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