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  1. Thanks to both of you, that settles the question.
  2. So i have a question regarding a possible mistake in the text of GoT, @Thomaerys Velaryon thinks the 3000 years in the text below should be 300 years and that we should ad this to the errata on the wiki, but i'm not sure about that because it could be a skull that was brought over from Valyria. That there are only 19 skulls does not change that because, there are 26 know dragons from the conquest down to the dance of dragons, so even if it was only the dragons after the conquest there would be 7 missing. I see no reason there being only 19 skulls means that there are no skulls from before the conquest. I think they only way we can be sure if this is a mistake is for someone with a later edition to check if this has been changed Thomaerys thought that @zionius might know since he is usually well informed on things regarding errata's but if anyone else knows or wishes to give a opinion (strongly hoping @Ran may actually know) please feel free. A Game of Thrones - Tyrion II There were nineteen skulls. The oldest was more than three thousand years old; the youngest a mere century and a half. The most recent were also the smallest; a matched pair no bigger than mastiff's skulls, and oddly misshapen, all that remained of the last two hatchlings born on Dragonstone. They were the last of the Targaryen dragons, perhaps the last dragons anywhere, and they had not lived very long.
  3. The 600 men with Kyle Condon and Ronnel Stout most likely surrendered to Roose Bolton and came back North with him, it also neatly explains why Roose Goes from 3500 men to 4000 between the red Wedding and coming up the causeway to the North A Storm of Swords - Catelyn VI His queer colorless eyes studied her face a moment before he answered. "Some five hundred horse and three thousand foot, my lady. Dreadfort men, in chief, and some from Karhold. With the loyalty of the Karstarks so doubtful now, I thought it best to keep them close. I regret there are not more." This would all be men loyal to Roose and they number 3500 A Dance with Dragons - Reek II The northmen followed hard behind the van, their tattered banners streaming in the wind. Reek watched them pass. Most were afoot, and there were so few of them. He remembered the great host that marched south with Young Wolf, beneath the direwolf of Winterfell. Twenty thousand swords and spears had gone off to war with Robb, or near enough to make no matter, but only two in ten were coming back, and most of those were Dreadfort men. 2 in 10 out of 20000 is 4000 so where did the 500 extra men come from? A Storm of Swords - Catelyn VI "I left six hundred men at the ford. Spearmen from the rills, the mountains, and the White Knife, a hundred Hornwood longbows, some freeriders and hedge knights, and a strong force of Stout and Cerwyn men to stiffen them. Ronnel Stout and Ser Kyle Condon have the command. Ser Kyle was the late Lord Cerwyn's right hand, as I'm sure you know; my lady. the 600 under Kyle and Ronnel would explain this growth in number, also Ronnel Stout would be sworn to House Dustin and they join Roose Bolton shortly after the red wedding, and so does House Ryswell who are Lords of the rills where some of the spearmen come from. The Hornwood bowmen would also be told of Ramsay having become there Lord and likely not have heard of what he did to Lady Hornwood until they had come back North. That leaves the Cerwyn men but Lord Cerwyn and his son are dead and Lord Cerwyn made the mistake of bringing his daughter with him when went South with Robb Stark so Lady Jonnele Cerwyn now ruling Lady is captured at the Red Wedding wich would force Kyle Condon and the Cerwyn men he commands to surrender. In short the 600 Northmen most likely surrendered and became part of Roose Bolton's army.
  4. As far as i can tell the wiki is wrong in this case, because the source it sites is the citadel and that says it bendy so whoever added the arms made a mistake. I looked at the history of the page and apparently it never had the correct arms on it, every version that's been on the page had the pallets instead of the bendy waves.
  5. Yes that would probably be the most universal.
  6. GRRM himself may be american but aSoIaF is a worldwide phenomena and MDY is only used in the Philippines and the USA so using MDY may be confusing to the majority of the people coming to the Wiki. I do agree that there should be one format for this for uniformity.
  7. I was wondering that too, as far as i can tel there is none.
  8. I sometimes have that problem myself, i'm Dutch so English is not my first language, i'm lucky in the sence that English is mandatory here in highschool and that my university study was mostly in English because most of the books where and we had international students, my aunt being a English teacher also did not hurt But i still have to think twice about some things before i say or write them and i always read things twice aswell just to be sure.
  9. Thats actually a real problem right there. I had a debate once with a person who had only read a German translation, and it turned out a crucial part of his theory hinged on what ultimatly turned out to be a mistranslation in his German version.
  10. I understand you basic premise, but the one problem that remains is that even if the magic enters a family via a woman that does not mean it can only be passed by a woman. There are more ways then one to pass something it need not be linked to a gender. Honestly the most realistic way to explain why magic is rare and only seems to occur ones every so many generations is that it comes from Chromosomal crossover more comanly known as meiosis, so if GRRM followed basic genetics then magic would not be Pater or Materlineal.
  11. I understand what your saying, i just don't think that the person who created the original inheritable ability (probably true bloodmagic) would have chosen to have it follow the pattern of a genetic defect. Heteroplasmy would be a much beter example. Because while it can have adverse effects it can also have beneficial effects, with people who live to be over a 100 years old showing a higher than average degree of Heteroplasmy. Short explanation, mtDNA normally only inherited via the mother also inherited via the father leading to the presence of more then one type of organellar genome.
  12. Which still makes everything you say fanfic and not canon, maybe i read over it but i never see you say anywhere that this is your theory and nothing more, you are presenting this as facts which there not. I don't mind a theory i do mind theory's being presented as facts.
  13. You are comparing passing a magical ability with a genetic defect, not the most likely thing to atach a magical ability to you would want something that is always passed on to ensure the magical ability survives.
  14. The same can be said for mothers, so most likely you need both parents to pass on a gene so that you you have a set of 2 and that's whats makes the genes create active magic.
  15. There are no marriages or children given in any of the books for Raya and Mariah Stark so you are just making this up yourself, half of the rest of what you say is depended on you having made up marriages and children for them, so all in all what you say is not likely at all.
  16. Yes it should, i made the change to the page.
  17. GRRM has said himself in a Q&A in Stockholm in 2015 that he based R'hllor on the dualism in Zoroastrianism and Catharism.
  18. Not really, what is suggested is that the alchemists until the decline of the magic the alchemists used, where rivals of the maesters. We also have no idea when they where founded, so while the maesters are a First Men creation the alchemist might not have arrived until they Andals. In that sence it actually makes more sence for a First Men house to have a maester then to have a alchemist. I see no reason for the existence of they alchemist to make it strange that Torrhen had a maester, even the fact he send three is not that strange. Some of his bannerman may have brought there's, they need not all three have been in his service.
  19. That guideline (its not a rule) also states very explisitly that it does not always apply, unfortunatly its not described when it does and when it does not apply.
  20. @Thomaerys Velaryon has updated Visenya Targaryen's year of birth based on FaB stating she is 2 years older then her brother Aegon who was born in 27 BC. While that would most likely put her birth in 29 BC i have some doubts it can be stated as certainty because of 2 reasons. 1: we do not know if its exactly 2 years or maybe a little more or less. 2: we do not know where in the year Aegon was born This means that if Aegon was born early in the Year and its a little more then 2 years between them Visenya could have been born in late 30 BC and not 29 BC I do not want to change anything unless more people agree so i am asking for other people's opinion on this, spesificaly i am hoping @Rhaenys_Targaryen whille chime in since you are the driving force behind the wiki timeline project.
  21. House March is not among the houses confirmed to be Crannogmen, there is speculation based on the house name and arms but no more then that.
  22. A split between the First Men sounds a lot more plausible so that would be a point towards your theory, certainly it would be a good explanation for the Ironborn and the Sistemen. But i'm less certain when it comes to the Hightowers who very much seem to have had amiable relations with the rest of what would become the Reach, its the same for the Redwyne's and the Farman's in the Westerlands, so to put them in with the Ironborn reavers and the Sistermen pirates whose culture is based on atacking others is something i would be reluctant to do. As for Skagos we simply know so little about them i can not really make a call on that one
  23. Honestly that sounds more like a split among the First Men not two different cultures, you would have the ones who accepted the pact with the CotF and those who don't and would have continued to worship there own gods. I am assuming that you are talking about the fortress on Battle Isle beƫing made of similar material to the Valyrian roads and Dragonstone? This apart from the Dragon bit sounds more like the Andals to be honest.
  24. Apart from me not really seeing the two different cultures, there is the problem i also do not see the antagonism that would result from the competition between those two cultures. This lack of solid evidence apart from the Hightowers and there fortress on Battle Isle for a competing culture to that of the First Men is where for me the first cracks apear in the theory, i say crack because its not a hole, the fortress and the seastone chair are hints to an other culture, so its not baseless just unlikely. You could with some imagination see two competing cultures in the Durran Godsgrief story, if you leave out the gods and look at it as man from one culture takes woman from other culture against her parents wishes causing a war. But one story thats pretty slim in regards to evidence.
  25. So that's where i sort off cut out, i really do not see that gods and war/opposition connection in what we have in book material. There is evidence of the gods the First men Worshipped before they converted to The old gods of the CotF, for example on no less then 3 occasions do we hear of a sea and a wind/storm deity, first in the legend of Durran godsgrief, then in the religion of the ironborn and lastly in the tales of the sistermen. Only in one of those tales are the gods antagonistic to each other and that is in they ironborn story. In the Durran legend they are husband and wife and the sistermen legend strongly suggest that this is the case there as wel just with the genders of the deity's reversed, only the Ironborn talk about two male gods. I will grant that an other first men god story is Garth Greenhand of who there are story's as a deity, but again no antagonism to other gods. As for the Manderly's they seem more connected to the Merlin King who is arguably also a deity since he is worpshipped according to the books. But again i do not see any hint of antagonism towards others there.
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