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Watched Creed and Creed II this weekend. I liked both well enough, thought they did some things very well and some other things too much like the originals. I don't put these on par with Rocky and Rocky II but maybe ahead of the other Rocky sequels.

Thought about seeing Creed III in theaters but didn't do it, same with Cocaine bear. Just can't get motivated to see either one.

Also watched Outlast  on Netflix. Best way I can describe it is a cross between Survivor and Alone. 16 players dropped off in remote Alaska with minimal supplies forced to create teams with no notice or discussion.  Not very many rules, basically you have to be on a team to be there and you can't get voted off, that's about it. No host, no narrator.  It gets pretty insane and really ugly and hopefully someone else watches it because to me..

I want to make sure I'm not the only one who thinks that.

I thought it was going to get even worse than it did.

18 minutes ago, Corvinus85 said:

Considering that the show took the time in the first two episodes to give us a bit of science regarding cordyceps infecting humans, I do wish that the finale would have taken some time in giving us more about Ellie's immunity. For a strong emotional impact, they could have also added the doctor as PoV for 5 minutes, getting all hopeful about finding a cure, and then Joel kills him at the end.

Agree here. I was shocked that the final episode was so short, like 45 min at most? 

1 hour ago, Jaxom 1974 said:

What does campaigning behind the scenes for her movie have to do with who her parents are? Jamie Lee Curtis has been in the business for over 40 years, and if she's using her little black book to call up friends and old co-stars to screen the movie, that little black book was filled with the people and relationships she's garnered over those 40+ years and has nothing to do with anything else. Hell, virtually anyone associated with her parents is long dead at this point, but if she wants to call up Arnold, or Eddie, or John, or Kevin, or any number of others, so be it.

And, yes, it is very possible her award is as much about legacy as anything else, and I wouldn't have made her my own first choice, but EEAAO is, based on a lot of articles I've been reading, likely not to fade away as soon as you seem to want it to.

100% agree with you. To call her a Nepo baby is just lazy. At first I thought the comment was about someone else, I was like JLC has been in movies forever. Her parents who were last relevant in the 60's somehow got her this award 50+ years later??

8 hours ago, Tywin et al. said:

Of course it has the highest critical backing, it won BP, but that wasn't my point. I don't think many fans of the franchise would tell you it's their favorite.

I am a fan of the franchise and Rocky is IMO the best by far. It introduces us to the characters, shows us their flaws and builds them up. The fact that (spoiler alert) Rocky loses the fight IMO is what makes it a great movie. The hero lost and succeeded.

9 hours ago, Kalnestk Oblast said:

The fireflies are certainly acting unethically too - but that doesn't mean what Joel did was right. And it ABSOLUTELY doesn't mean that what he did was right with Marlene at the end - where after rescuing Ellie from immediate harm he still makes the choice to execute her despite there being no actual immediate threat. At the point where she's out of immediate danger any ethical value he was performing stops, and it just becomes him being selfish. 

Totally disagree here. Had he let Marlene live the Fireflies would have been hunting them forever, he even told her that right before killing her. Marlene knows about his brother in Wyoming and that is their safe harbor. Ellie would never be safe if Marlene was left alive. Also, going forward they would simply use a long distance shot to kill Joel and just take Ellie instead of trying to be nice about it. There would never be a discussion and choice for Ellie to make, Marlene was just saying this to try to stop Joel.

Got tired of reading the 50 posts since it aired so I'm just gonna type instead and read more later.

I would've done what Joel did. I have a daughter and no way I'm letting them kill her under those circumstances, or maybe any.  They do not know for a fact that the procedure is the answer to the cure. They only have a guess that it will. Sorry but her life is worth more than a guess. Check blood, etc.. Hell I'd rather they said we need to get her pregnant to see if her kid is immune also, anything but kill her and hope that the one doctor there guessed correctly. This episode showed us that Marlene knew how Ellie became immune, that fact alone provides hope. They know a mother about to give birth, who gets bitten likely equals an immune child. Doing horrific experiments with this knowledge is no worse than killing Ellie.

However, I do not like that Joel lied to her about it. Had he explained to her that they were going to kill her without knowing if it would have worked, she may not like what he did but at least she would respect him for not lying to her. Which brings me to what I didn't like about this episode. That was a whole new Joel we saw in this episode. I know he was trying to get her out of her funk from the previous attack but turning Joel into a blithering chatterbox who then lies to her was totally out of character.

Side note about The Walking Dead. How Ellie became immune is somewhat how I thought TWD would show a cure, if it ever did. I thought that children born after it all happened would be immune to it, something about having been exposed to it in utero etc... I thought Judith would get bit and wouldn't turn and that would be the aha moment.

1 hour ago, Rhom said:

I’d have to go back and look at one of those “Gotcha!” websites that keeps track of predictions; but I remember multiple ESPN types who had them in there.

I remember the same thing. They had CMC, DJ Moore and the hope of Sam Darnold and playing in a weak division.  I don't think Vegas had them in the playoffs but some talking heads did.

1 hour ago, Werthead said:

I saw some speculation that during the first winter (1996/97) they'd get close to cannibalism and then be able to avoid it, and then Season 3 would be "lighter," in the sense it'd be flashing back to them in the spring/summer of 1997 with the hope of rescue or escape, and then during the second winter (1997/98) they'd run out of options and go full cannibalism at that point, in Season 4 and then go full grim.

That always felt a bit off though, given they covered something like 6-8 months in Season 1 alone and their options for finding fresh food once the bear meat runs out seem limited. Also Season 2 looks like it might be introducing a third time period after the rescue as well.

Also Grim... she is pregnant and in the future we don't see a child that age in their lives so....?

15 minutes ago, Werthead said:

What is startling is that Season 2 looks really fucking grim, which is a bold thing to do with a (planned) 5-season show.

Well it is a story that likely involves cannibalism so grim, yeah, that's gonna happen.

I don't think it seems like too much. If you believe THE guy is there in this draft and you can get him, go for it. But you better be right or you screwed the franchise for years. The curious part is giving up Moore, who you think your new QB would like to have as a target.

1 hour ago, Ran said:

Has to be. How does he compare to Hardy in Warrior? Gotta look up the clip.

Bodies are different but he was ripped, like everywhere there is a muscle, it could be seen, if that makes sense, maybe lean and muscular is a better description.

3 minutes ago, Ran said:

I saw the mention before of a remake of the film that you linked, but didn't read it... but now learned that it's Doug Liman working on a "reimagined" Road House, with Jake Gyllenhaal to star. That seems too crazy to be true.

 

I saw this too. There was footage shot before last weeks UFC fight that Gyllenhall was there for, he did a mock weigh in and was ripped.  Assume the UFC part is his backstory for the movie, why Dalton is such a badass?

Yeah I saw he passed yesterday and thought about posting but got tied up. I do remember seeing Baretta reruns as a kid and enjoying them somewhat. The latter story of his life is how I remember him though.

1 hour ago, Rhom said:

Strap him to the wing.

I hear Flex Seal makes some amazing products

1 hour ago, Kalnestk Oblast said:

Hell, the whole plot about resurrecting IG-11 was incredibly stupid. 

This I totally agree with, and the funny thing is, where would IG-11 sit on the new ship? 

I keep waiting for a clear bubble dome to come up and cover him. It could make sense to protect it since I assume that thing is made for babies?

1 hour ago, Kalnestk Oblast said:

I found out earlier this week that Spielberg put in that tree that ate kids because he had a tree that looked like it had gnarly arms which scared him and FUCK YOU SPIELBERG

I was terrified of that for years as a kid. I saw Heavy Metal and it wasn't as scary to me. Damn man

YES! There is a movie that was out in the 70's, on tv in '76, where the trees killed you! I saw it at 5 years old and was terrified. The damn wind would blow and the branches would scrape against my window!

1 hour ago, Cas Stark said:

None of them lived up to the original, but there is much less drop off in quality than in Halloween or Nightmare on Elm Street.  I always thought Friday 13 was total trash, even the original.  I also hated the Saw franchise so haven't seen most of those.

That is true, most sequels went completely off the rails. They all fall into the same line of making the killer invincible. I liked the original Saw but after that initial surprise the others didn't match it.

I think Poltergeist and Amityville Horror scared me more than any other thing. The thought that your own home (basically) is trying to kill you and no place is safe.

54 minutes ago, Relic said:

Assumed he was pulled down by the Mythosaur

I assumed the same, but then why release him and why not grab her? I guess we will have to tune in next week to find out.

17 hours ago, sifth said:

What was the deal with the lighting this week? I could hardly see anything that was happening.

I had no problem at all, I see it in HDR. Not sure if that makes a difference.

One question, and I guess I could have watched it again or rewound it. 

I liked seeing Mandalore, or the remains of it.  

2 hours ago, Cas Stark said:

I actually liked 3 a lot better than 2. Scream 4 was atrocious, 5 was better but the new cast doesn't do much for me.  It's definitely one of the better franchises.  I rewatched the first one a couple of weeks ago and it's still great.

I loved the first one, it felt fresh and new. Since then. eh.  I even went to the last new one and was glad the popcorn was good.

11 hours ago, Kalnestk Oblast said:

Its a great return, because their alternative is getting nothing at all.

Or signing someone you worked with for his entire career, that you may not believe is the answer to a massive long term contract.

I think they sign him in the end, just not to the reported asking price from Jackson.

21 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

Imo Lamar has become an avatar. People see what they want in him. If you always believed in his upside then some of the issues don't deter you and if you always had doubts you've got evidence you can point to. Frankly I've seen enough to invest in him for the next few years because like I've said before, he's never had a supporting cast and I think if you give him one you're so much more likely to get '19 Lamar than the '21 version. And even if he's never that good again the '20 version is enough to win a title on a good team. 

Again, different points of view. I don't see his 2020 season as exceptional. 3762 yards of total offense and 33 total tds.  I see that season as very good as I have said more than once, but exceptional, not IMO. 

I fully believe you can win a SB with him in the right situation. I just don't know what that situation is or what it looks like. Baltimore had been known for years as a well run team and they haven't figured out the right people to place around him to make it work.  

31 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

So what's the alternative? The team is a contender with him and terrible without. Their recent track record suggests that if they let him go they won't be good for a few years and there's no guarantee they'd rebound back into contention in the same period they'd have to pay Lamar. I know there's sticker shock, but $50M AAV for a top 10 QB will be cheap in a few years considering the cap is expected to jump a shit ton during that time period. 

You can afford to lose a few players if you're going to upgrade your QB that significantly. And my guess is they'd stagger the deal in a way that wouldn't hurt them too much in year one.

We are just coming from different perspectives. I don't see the Lamar from the last two seasons as a significant upgrade.

Just now, Tywin et al. said:

Why would I not include his MVP season in which his peers voted him the best player in the league? No one is arguing he's been as good since for an entire season, but he's had stretches where he's and it's fair to wonder if he could have kept up at that level if the Ravens didn't completely mismanage their personal. It's hard to find a team that's done less for their star QB than they have.

As for the contract goes, we're not far apart. He just turned 26. There's no reason to fear paying him until he's 29/30. It's the next contract that should be concerning.

 

I still maintain that if Lamar goes to Miami or San Fran he should be viewed as one of the favorites to win MVP. 

Because when you look at the rest of his career that season is a big outlier and he has done nothing (2020 was good but worse than 2019) but get worse since. 

Look at just his last two or three years taking away his name and memories of 2019 and does that look like a 250mill fully guaranteed contract you want to sign? No.

BTW if he went to SF or Miami, how many really good players are they cutting to get that 50-60 mill to fit? Be realistic and look at the numbers and think about how many of the players that make those teams who they are that would have to get released.