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    Jaime and Aegon

    He very well could. Jaime's memories of Aerys' atrocities are still fresh, partly because everyone reminds him of Aerys and partly because Aerys traumatised him for life. For example Jaime still feels uneasy around burnt places: "A half mile on, green began to creep back into the world once more. Jaime was glad. The burned lands reminded him too much of Aerys." So Jaime, knowing full well about Targaryen insanity and experiencing it first hand, could still disapprove of Aerys' ancestors ruling. But even not mentioning that, I just don't see Jaime fighting to get a boy on the throne simply because his grandfather had it. Jaime is someone who is committed to serve Tommen till the end of his days, fully knowing that he has no rights for the throne whatsoever. Jaime is someone who once sat on Iron Throne as if it was a simple chair, being completely oblivious to what IT represents. Jaime is someone who thought this: "On the morning after the battle, the crows had feasted on victors and vanquished alike, as once they had feasted on Rhaegar Targaryen after the Trident. How much can a crown be worth, when a crow can dine upon a king?" where Jaime implies a crown doesn't make anyone special. So I just don't see Jaime trying to get Aegon on the IT, even if out of guilt for failing to protect Rhaenys and Elia. Both because Aegon is Aerys' grandson and because Jaime doesn't believe in special rights to rule for one family (Targaryen in this case). For me Jaime seems to be someone who would just accept anyone on the throne as long as he is a good. I would also mention that I actually doubt that Jaime will be involved in Aegon storyline at all. Aegon is already in Westeros and from narrative point of view should start fighting for IT directly very soon, so for Jaime to be involved in any of this, his meeting with Lady Stoneheart has to be relatively brief and inconsequential. And I just don't see it, I believe LS would turn Jaime's story away from KL politics for quite some time.
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    Jaime and Aegon

    Rhaegar is long dead when Jaime has this dream but at the time he was alive, he was the rightful heir as accepted by everyone and I suspect this dream just channels Jaime's old memories of that time of how he and 7 Kingdoms perceived Rhaegar. After all, Jaime didn't want Rhaegar's children to get the throne, he didn't even care who would get it, just not them. "...he glanced down again at the body on the floor, in its spreading pool of blood. His blood is in both of them, he thought. "Proclaim who you bloody well like," he told Crakehall."
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    Jaime and Aegon

    Jaime doesn't believe in royal blood, rightful kings and divine right to rule. Yes, he feels guilty over failing to protect Rhaegar's children, but because they were innocent children, not because they were Targaryens. Hence I just don't see him fighting to put some boy on the throne with a claim that Jaime doesn't care about.
  4. Since when Cersei even cared about stuff like loyalty? It doesn't matter if she would be satisfied with Rhaegar or not (she wouldn't), she would continue to sleep with Jaime either way. Jaime is her possession and a "part of her" and sleeping with him for her is the most natural thing. Cersei was infatuated with Rhaegar when she was a child too, but it didn't stop her to kill her best over Jaime at the same time after all. She is not letting go of Jaime simply because she would be married to some prince that she is "in love" with ( not really in love since she was crazy about Rhaegar before she even saw his face).
  5. Even is she would be satisfied with Rhaegar, she would still continue her relationship with Jaime. Because why not?
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    House Bolton vs. House Greyjoy

    Who would you rather have ruling the north? Bolton, they are from the North and just because some members are monsters doesn't mean everyone will be, for example Domeric. Ramsay user Theon to trick the Iron born to surrender Moat Cailin and then slaughters them. How do you feel about that? Do you think the better man won that day? I feel neutral about that. In the end though, Ironborn there had to be dealt with and if they weren't killed by Ramsey, that would had been killed by Crannogmen. And the Ironborn were half dead, not really a victory worth praising. Who gets the credit for kicking the Iron born out of the north, the Boltons or Stannis? Euron for killing Balon. After that the Ironborn were done for sooner or later anyway since Euron didn't care about the North. Which house do you sympathize more between these two? Boltons. They are not culturally evil. Which family has a higher chance of surviving until the end of the series? Definitely Greyjoys. Roose vs. Balon. Who do you like better? Roose is more interesting, hence him. Ramsay vs. Theon. Who do you like better? Theon. How much of a factor did losing the north have on Roose Bolton's decision to betray Robb? I mean, is it not possible that Roose was worried about his castle and his people and assumed he could do a better job than Robb in taking back the north? Are you willing to give Roose the benefit of the doubt that he had good intentions and honestly thought Robb and the Starks were hurting the north and the people? Difficult to say but it could have played a role. After all Roose stayed loyal to Ned during Robert's Rebellion.
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    Unpopular Opinions?

    I don't like when artists draw ASOIAF art while taking inspiration from the show (like using the faces of the actors).
  8. Or knowing that D&D can't write a battle without a Rohirrim charge saving the day, maybe Cersei is not going to be a villain, maybe she is going to be the hero, saving everyone at the last moment with her Golden Company?
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    Jaime broke an oath when he killed Aerys

    Yes, Jaime definitely broke his oath and he definitely is the worst Kingsguard ever. But the question of was he right or wrong is the very question Martin asks and I also believe answers as well through Brienne. Martin created Brienne as this character with pure ideals, sort of a perfect knight and Brienne takes Jaime's side in this issue. In the end she concedes that Jaime was right. And I agree with it as well, there are sometimes moments when morality > oaths, and the situation that Jaime found himself in was a clear cut example of such moment. --------- About the knightly vs Kingsguard vows that the discussion is currently about - the latter definitely don't cancel the former. The fact that they don't is also emphasised in Sandor's arc as well - that's the very reason he refused to become a knight when he was given a position in the Kingsguard. But the society in general is programmed that obeying your lord/king is a honourable thing to do. Loyalty is at the heart of the feudal system, so a vassal must obey their lord and a Kingsguard the King's, to the point of being loyal is more honorable than doing something morally right. Hence the Kingsguard's vows > knightly ones, even though in theory they both apply. The problem with Jaime was not even that he didn't agree with this a Kingsguard > a knight system, it's the fact that he wasn't even aware of it. This loyalty above all concept wasn't programmed into Jaime's mind because he wasn't raised to be loyal, he was raised to rule as the heir of one of the Great Houses. The same way Robert didn't care at all about Jaime's kingslaying - he too was raised to be a lord of the Great House. So did Jon Arryn, who left Jaime in the Kingsguard. Jon Arryn was known to be honour obsessed, from whom Ned got all of his obsession over honour, yet he was the one to allow Jaime continue to serve in the Kingsguard despite committing the worst crime a Kingsguard can commit, likely exactly because of this reason.
  10. I am a "white male" but my distaste for conquerors is the same, hence Aegon I loses by default for me. Though "conquest being good' is not a "white male narrative". It's a narrative of anyone who conquered.
  11. Well, Dany's storyline felt off once her dragons were stolen. After that happened, her storyline resembled a "villain of the week" plot from those long running shows. The resolution especially reeked of this, it made me lose immersion into Quarth. I also remember being excited after that black guy said he wants to conquer Westeros, and then going "huh, what was the point of it all" after he was disappointingly defeated. In Jon's storyline, Jon failing to kill Ygritte, then chasing her, then quickly getting lost, then getting captured and killing Qhorin Halfhand who was suddenly captured seemed extremely lazy to me. Like, plot demanded Jon to join the wildlings but the writers were too lazy to think through how it would happen and hence went with the easiest, quickest and laziest way to do it. In Robb's storyline I really disliked how Talisa took all the focus from his war campaign. The war basically became a background for Robb's romance with Talisa, at some point I remember being confused where they were actually fighting, against whom ( I knew they were Lannisters in general but I wanted to know more than that) and what was Robb's actual strategy.
  12. Reading the books simply removed my bias towards the show and I managed to look on season 2 more objectively. The problem with season 2 were Jon's, Dany's and Robb's storylines and I had issues with them even when I was watching season 2 for the first time, but I closed my eyes on these issues back then. Now I don't.
  13. For me definitely. I was in love with the show when I first started watching it, then after season 3 I read the books and I didn't enjoy any new seasons after that. In retrospective I still like seasons 1 and 3 but think now that season 2 was bad.
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    Your 7

    Cersei was actually a Queen Regent during Joffrey's rule as well, Joffrey wasn't ruling either. She was just overshadowed by her father even though technically she was above him. And Cersei didn't think that Joffrey was mad or anything. In fact, she was extremely happy with his behaviour. If you remember that she wasn't, than you are again confusing the books with the show.
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    Your 7

    You are confusing the books with the show. It is in the show where she had no formal power. In the books Cersei was the Queen Regent, the most powerful person in the 7 Kingdoms.
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