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4- Snow in the thrown room (future).
Liked the way you put this. Reminds me of Mel's "I pray for a glimpse of Azor Ahai, and R'hllor shows me only Snow."
I'm sure an unintentional parallel, but it made me happy all the same. ;)
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Not enough visually to go on.
The jewel on the far left could also be missing since it's obscured - so it looks like the necklace could just not have been made with gems on either side.
I think it's enough to go on...especially because then as Olenna is walking to her seat, you hear an audible "plink" right as she passes Margery. The only thing that I can't find is Margery slipping into Joff's cup, but we see her handle his cup right before he cuts the cake, and she was sitting next to him all wedding. I haven't had time for a proper rewatch yet, so maybe it's in there somewhere.
I doubt the Unsullied caught any of this, which is why I'm assuming next episode it will be made explicit.
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One of the few times Lena Headey's acting didn't cut it.
If you look at the promo for next week, she seems to be really losing it (in the same scene). It may have just been poor editing, or a scene that would have benefited from not being chopped in two.
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Since Locke does not exist in the book I think either D&D outlined for George or D&D flat wrote that scene.
D&D inserted a scene in Blackwater that GRRM said he didn't write.
Can't now figure out what Locke's plot purpose is?
He going to the most dangerous place , Castle Black, in Westeros at the worst time.
I am guessing the Wilding crew south of Wall are going to kill him and his party.
I assumed they were setting up his rendezvous with Brienne. I'd guess she'd bite his ear.
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You are right, Newstar, with your answer.
Would Shae have listened if once again Tyrion had talked about the danger?
And the way Tyrion did this it would have been easier for her to forget faithless Tyrion in the future, not the concerned lover sacrificing his happiness for her safety but the arrogant nobleman sending his whore away. I guess once again Tyrion was thinking around one corner too much with his attempt at being evil.
And now we will see an Othello-like tragical misunderstanding when Shae dies, making Tyrion maybe darker than in the books because he won't listen when he should have??
I tremendously enjoyed Margaery!
You could see everything, everything in her face, disgust, false laughter, attempt at distraction and worry. That so very clever young woman! Dorner was extraordinary, just like Diana Rigg!
And I really loved Turner. I have not been a fan of Sansa so far but Turner's acting in the two first episodes has impressed me and starts to win me over for Sansa. She has a brain, she is furious, she makes her standpoint clear, is full of pity and now her play shows that she has a clear understanding of the subtleties and power games that are going on. "And now we have a new Queen", her voice got so wonderfully cynical. Her face showed every memory of her father's beheading at the dwarf jousting and shame about Tyrion's treatment.
And the solidarity she showed to Tyrion when she passed the goblet, two victims of Joffrey and yet proud, full of understanding for each other, great acting.
I was just about to sing praises to Natalie Dorner. Absolutely fantastic in this episode.
As for Sansa, I'm glad she and Tyrion had a slightly nice last moment (her handing him the cup). It was a good conclusion for them, and went along with the whole Show!Sansa bending at the wedding.
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It's going to be tough to cap - as the QoT is walking away from Sansa, you can see her bend her right arm in front of Margaery and you hear a "clink".
Just caught it, thanks! That's incredibly subtle. Also some slow-moving poison, unless Margery didn't slip it in until after the pie was brought out
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Also the Boltons know about Bran and Rickon/said Jon could be a threat. Is this just all FAyra setup?
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And here's a blow up of the QoT taking the stone.
This is awesome! However I cant fin the moment where it goes in the cup. Was that offscreen?
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And a low quality shot of her plucking the stone: http://tinypic.com/r/erxtnl/8
Yes! I was trying to catch that moment but my timing was slightly off. Very obvious on a rewatch though
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i'm not seeing the missing jewel
Here's a better shot: http://i.imgur.com/V9zbhUV.jpg?1
Also QoT clearly takes a jewel, but it's hard for me to catch a screenshot (taking it while it's running in hbogo)
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i'm not seeing the missing jewel
Top right, by Olenna's sleeve.
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No, she's just Myranda, a random evil chick.
Maybe she'll become a more empowered FAyra. I doubt it though...wondering her purpose
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Screenshot of Olenna touching the jewel: http://i.imgur.com/bOZ4izP.jpg?1
This happens in between her touching her hair, so it's definitely subtle
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Screenshot of Sansa's missing jewel: http://i.imgur.com/sJEZUqf.jpg?1
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All 5 of the dwarf actors were male, so I wonder if this will change the future with Tyrion and the female.
I thought here never saw the one with the wolf's head ("Robb")'s face. And the voice sounded like it could have been a girl lowering her voice. Could be wrong though
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i was really staring hard at it but in the end, i wasn't sure. if i'm not sure and i know it's coming, how are the unsullied going to catch it?
I think they wanted it to be ambiguous, but is bet next episode Sansa is going to comment on a missing jewel
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Pretty sure the Oberyn/Cersei exchange was my favorite part when he talks about why Myrcella is better off in Dorne
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I understand why they changed most of the things, including Sir Illyn, but two things I don't get:
1) Why Melisandre was burning Ser Axell Florent, instead of Ser Alester, and why he suddenly became Selyse's brother. Also, Stannis didn't command his death because he was a sinner (which would make him more of a fanatic), but because he tries to negotiate a peace treaty with Tywin Lannister behind Stannis' back.
2) Why Lady Olenna doesn't put her hands on Sansa's necklace, to remove one of the gems, possibly containing the poison that killed Joffrey.
Number 1 who knows, but number 2 she does. Just rewatch...the far right jewel is missing and you can see Olenna briefly touch it
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I also have to remark that the Ramsey and Roose scene was nicely done. I was wary about spending so much time at the Dreadfort, but I liked it.
It was, but I'm confused about Myranda. She was one of the girls from Theon's castration scene last year, but she can't be the same Myranda who's friends with Mya Stone, right?
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is it possible that she did geto n the boat, but was somehow redirected or Vayrs had someone bring her back ?
This would make sense if Varys really did plant her in Tywin's tower like some people suspect.
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Also can we please talk about that awkward moment with Cersei and Brienne??
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There's plenty of time to establish the fact that Sansa's necklace played a role in the murder. I don't see why D&D wouldn't do that. In the books it happened shortly after the wedding, so I'm hoping next week Sansa tells Dontos that the necklace is missing a stone.
That plus the preview showed a scene between Margery and Olenna clearly discussing the poisoning. I'm guessing they might just be explicit about it there so the audience knows Tyrion is innocent
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I'm back to thinking they're going to have Tywin kill Shae and it will be a total total whitewash of the whole thing.
I can't decide. Obviously she didn't get on the boat, so has Bronn turned at this point?
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Margery put the cup on the table in front of the QOT
I was trying to watch QoT in the background after that happened but she wasn't in all the frames. I mean obviously she did it, but I'm wondering how kong they're going to keep the unsullied guessing.
Also that Jaime/Loras scene was glorious.
[Book Spoilers] EP402 Discussion
in E02: The Lion and the Rose
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I don't think there's supposed to be. But also keep in mind we knew what to look for going in.