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  1. The reveal isn't actually that important for Jon's character, as you say it doesn't really matter where you come from. But this is vitally important for Ned's character. It says a huge amount about him and his actions.
  2. I don't agree. His reign started relatively well but started to break down once he became jealous of Tywin and the failure of his wife to deliver any healthy children. He made policy decisions to spite Tywin rather than on merit and he started to have people killed because he believed they may have something to do with his children's deaths. He almost got himself killed at Duskendale and after that he became extremely paranoid and from that point on I think an upheaval was inevitable unless he died. He started executing various "traitors" with wildfire and after Tywin resigned, Aerys started to clash with Rhaeger, forcing the court to decide between the two. His appearance was horrible and when he emerged in public everyone saw it. He was convinced the Whent tourney was a gathering to plot his downfall.
  3. Aerys was still a nutcase and Varys was still whispering poison in his ear. It might have happened differently but the realm was still headed for a massive upheaval.
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    Mathis Rowan is the Betrayer

    Mace has what he wants, a direct family link to the throne, and arguably he personally has the most sway in the entire realm. He won't have that if he switches to side with Aegon. He was disinherited for pledging allegiance to Stannis. Mellessa did not pledge allegiance to Stannis and she was next in line.
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    Will Tyrion'sAdvice work for FAegon?

    The advice he gave was good, but Aegon only listened to the first part (as Tyrion knew he would). He ignored the part about keeping his dragon close.
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    Why did George give daenerys everything

    Again it happened because Baristan reneged on her deal. He unlawfully imprisoned someone who was officially his ruler after being manipulated and lied to by the shavepate. Can I ask you who you believe poisoned the locusts? I don't understand where you are coming from and that might help me because it is a very important point. How were they (the Meereenese nobles/harpy) chipping away at her after she agreed to marry? Opening the fighting pits was a compromise which she agreed to. Transitioning culture during a revolution is extremely difficult and George wanted to show that. It's a story of compromise and consequences showing how hard it is to make peace after a hostile invasion, why it is worth striving for, but also allowing her character to suffer from the inner conflict he loves to write about and realistically transitioning her into a darker character.
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    Mathis Rowan is the Betrayer

    Garlan Tyrell was given Brightwater Keep at the conclusion of the Battle of Blackwater. This was a written down as the most significant prize awarded to anyone and was confiscated from the Florents, some of which sided with Stannis. However by rights, Randly Tarlys wife should have actually inherited it through his wife who was next in line and stayed loyal. For a guy who does have a prickly sense of pride, this strikes me as an obvious slap in the face. And although the guys in the know recognize that Tarly is the superior general to Mace, that is not the case with the commoners. We don't get a POV to see his thoughts but I think that will be eating away at him. I think it extremely likely he is already working with Connington, the advice he gave in the epilogue was terrible. I think Mathis Rowan is also a possibility but the problem I have with this is the likely way Connington is going to capture Storms End, which will involve butchering Rowan's troops to pretend to be sent by Stannis to relieve the stronghold. My gut feeling is that I don't think Rowan would allow this as a subterfuge, and anything less would be too unconvincing for Connington to gamble on. He may be captured and convinced later on however.
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    Why did George give daenerys everything

    Unlikely. Even if they wanted to they don't have the manpower to control all the former slaves. It also depends what you mean without her presence. If you mean the lack of her presence because she flew off on the back of Drogan, then there is no possible way that could happen because the vast majority of the soldiers in the city would not allow it. Without her presence because she leaves to head off to Westeros, there is always the threat she returns on the back of a dragon if if they got help from other cities in Slaver Bay. The only message not killing the hostages sent them was that she could be just and merciful to those not at fault. She also sent a message by nailing up all the Meereeneese nobles to mirror what they did to the slaves.
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    Why did George give daenerys everything

    Yes, but the war with Yunkai has absolutely nothing to do with the hostages. There was also a civil war within Meereen, and the peace that resulted from Daenerys's actions is what Baristan threw away. The person who poisoned the locusts was not a member of the Harpy, it was Skahaz mo Kandaq, the Shavepate. Granted this hasn't been revealed in the books yet, but I am absolutely convinced about it. Again, I advise you to read the link I posted before.
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    Why did George give daenerys everything

    Right now there is a war because Baristan reneged on the deal that Daenerys made.
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    Why did George give daenerys everything

    Yes, she changed her mind. But when she originally made that decision with the hostages she got what she wanted. She later found out that she didn't like it. Although it was really Baristan who threw it away. Peace can still be salvaged if she changes her mind again by the time she gets back.
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    Why did George give daenerys everything

    Yeah, what's your point? She got what she originally wanted. Peace and slavery abolished. Not everything that happened was what she wanted but to get peace you have to compromise. She could have subjugated Meereen with fire and blood but she went the peaceful route, and did so successfully. I would strongly advise anyone who hasn't to read this series of articles. https://meereeneseblot.wordpress.com/2013/09/27/untangling-the-meereenese-knot-part-i-who-poisoned-the-locusts/
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    Why did George give daenerys everything

    The killings stopped completely after she agreed to marry one of them and slavery was abolished in a remarkably short space of time. It only started again when the shavepate manipulated Baristan.
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    Why did George give daenerys everything

    And yet it worked out well for her. She wants a lasting peace in Meereen and the abolition of slavery. It was her move with sparing the hostages that convinced the harpy/meereenese nobles, that Daenerys could be worked with. Mercy is not as bad as many people make out.
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    Aftermath of Daenerys Campaign

    I agree with this although I think it is highly likely they will be successful at least in Meereen. I don't believe Daenerys's arc there is understood at all well. She was actually successful in obtaining a genuine peace and a genuine road map to cultural revolution (and in a remarkably short time). The locusts were poisoned by the Shavepate rather than the Harpy, as a desperate last ditch attempt to retain power and relevance. However given the aftermath of this, including Daenerys personal change and finding out that peace wasn't everything she wanted, the future is much less certain. I do think it will work out in the end with her leaving a stable rulership in Meereen (and possibly other cities) before she heads to Westeros.
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    Jaime Lannister and Guest Rights

    I don't think anyone is really questioning whether what Jaime did was evil. It undoubtedly was. But if you want a comparison, I think the Red Wedding was much worse. Jaime took action impulsively to protect the life of himself, his lover/sister and his three children. The Freys plotted out a betrayal for vengeance of besmirched honor.
  17. I agree with this, it's about ruthlessness. And more so, so does Jaime. However I don't think Jaime is changing into Tywin at all. Rather he is slowly changing into the man he wanted to be and would have been without the malignant influence of Cersei. Arthur Dayne. Although the above quote sounded Tywin like, it it was almost certainly a bluff. He would die sooner than do that. Also it is clear that Genna does not think he is becoming Tywin like after seeing him in action and Doesn't sound very Tywin like. And even less Tywin like... Tywin in contrast is the Reynes of Castamere. This is Tywin
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    Whats the point of BwB storyline now?

    We don't really have a good view into their motivations. There is no point of view within the order and the only brief viewpoints we get are from Arya, who is a captive and pre-Stoneheart, Merrett who they hate and hang shortly after, and Brienne. Brienne would be the best viewpoint but something seems off to me about her entire time with them. I feel her entire interaction is tainted because they are deliberately misdirecting their motivations to get her to do something she would normally not consider - betray someone - in this case Jaime. They achieve that by convincing her that they are absolutely rotten and will hang the innocent Podrick Payne. I'm not saying that they are not driven by vengeance, but I doubt that is their sole purpose, and it is definitely not mindless. They want Jaime for something and I doubt it is to simply hang him. What could that be? It is my guess that she means to exchange Jaime for Jon, and fulfill Robb's last command that Jon should become King in the North. How fortuitous that Catelyn can also resurrect the dead and Jon happens to currently be dead. Catelyn and Jon also have one of the most developed and nuanced relationships in the books, I struggle to believe it will just be left like that, nor that Robb's will will just be ignored. Anyhow, whatever GRRM has planned for the BHWB, whether it's simply mindless vengeance as most people assume or something else, GRRM has said that it is important. He has been recently quoted as saying that Catelyn has a big part to play in Winds.
  19. Several reasons. 1) He (rightly) believes that with Lannisters on the throne and Boltons ruling the North, the wall will be at best ignored and at worst attacked from the south (Cersie's and Tywins scheming has already started). This would most likely result in all of humanity being destroyed by the Others. He don't know this for certain but he does believe no one else is suitable as commander of the nightswatch. Stannis believes in the threat and has already aided the wall. 2) He wants Stannis to leave him the Wildlings 3) Because Ramsay and Roose are psychopaths and would also likely be personal enemies given the family history. 4) Personal reasons. Red wedding, Ned's execution, Janos Slynt and Bowen Marshes plotting. Jon isn't perfect in his honour and people should accept that. He stepped outside his oath to start playing the game of thrones. But it was still the right thing to do as he is also sworn to guard the realms of men. To keep one oath he needs to break another. He was thrust into an impossible situation and is trying to do his best. Attacking Alliser Thorne for defaming his father was wrong. Attempting to ride off to join Robb was wrong. I didn't really like Jon as a character early in the series. My first impression throughout all of book one was of a moody immature teenager of middling competence. But I agree with pretty much everything he has done from the start of the second book onwards.
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    Daenerys and the number 3

    Jon and Daenerys are both intelligent and capable. The pointless arguments against the other by their respective "fans", are not. It's an interesting thread.
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    The execution of Janos Slynt was spot on

    That's not really a military definition of desertion (although they do vary). It could be considered AWOL. But desertion is permanent. I don't really see the benefit of getting dragged into semantics though we all know what happened and Jon considered himself to be an oath-breaker. Comparing the risk/benefit of Mormont pardoning Jon and Jon pardoning Slynt is a completely different situations though. Killing Slynt was not only acceptable within the law, but it was also essential for Jon's authority. It made the watch stronger whereas the other way around Jon is a great boon to the nightswatch and morally a much, much superior person. Mormont would have to be a complete moron to execute Jon when he could look the other way.
  22. Even though I don't see things happening the way that writer did, it was an interesting read. But what does it have to do with the Hound? I have a feeling the fact that Randyll Tarly holds Margaery is significant. I think he is about to stab the Tyrells in the back and side with fAegon. If that happened, I suspect Margaery is in a world of trouble as her trial may devolve into a sham all around fAegon gaining the support of the Faith.
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    The execution of Janos Slynt was spot on

    As an aside, and this is moving slightly off topic, to me Jon's big mistake here was not cutting off Slynt's head (in fact I can't even understand why this is such a contested discussion), but rather offering Slynt a command in the first place. What if he was slightly smarter and took it? Did Jon guess he would refuse?
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    The execution of Janos Slynt was spot on

    I'm afraid I don't agree with you at all. The idea was to challenge Jon's authority as soon as he becomes lord commander. And introduce the new Lord Snow, as he becomes quite a different character, in brutal fashion. This cannot be delayed at all. The plot hangs open of course because there were other conspirators. I don't think Slynt is a particularly interesting foil either because he is so obviously corrupt and stupid. Bowen Marsh was the better choice to hang around.
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