KeeperOfOaths

If this was true, Bronn would not be able to go with Jaime to the Riverlands. And I am pretty sure that Bronn will gonwith Jaime. They have to give Bronn something to do in season 5. Plus Jaime and Bronn are great together.

Brilliant episode. Highlights for me, Oberyn and Nikolaj. All their scenes, basically. And Tywin, I can't manage to really hate him. Charles Dance is so great.

OMG, really??? It is the complete other way around. What Brienne feels for Renly is just a young girl´s crush. A crush that does not have a strong fundament. He treated her with kindness, he valued her as a fighter and he was not so prejudiced so that he won´t give her an opportunity to fight just because she was a woman. But he didn´t care about her, and there was no actual connection there. Brienne fell in love with a fantasy, really. Just because she is also a woman not only a warrior, and she does have feelings and nobody has treated her with kindness and respect. What Brienne feels for Jaime is totally different. It is real love. Born out of respect, and admiration, and a deep understanding. Forged out of extreme experiences and a very strong connection. Jaime is not just a man who treats her with kindness (at the end of their relationship) and appreciates her as a fighter. He is a man who rescued her, twice, who defended her, who actually proved that he does care for her and for her well-being, who entrusted her with his honour, showing that he values her not only as a fighter but also as a woman of honour. With whom she shares values, even if she is still innocent while he has become a cynic due to his life experiences; when he was young he dreamed after all of great deeds of courage, of being a knight in shining armour with heroic adventures. And who she actually knows, with good parts and bad parts, she trusts and she likes. So, you may ignore what it is actually happening in the books (she remarking how good he looks in the Oathkeeper scene, she constantly thinking of Jaime, she dreaming of Renly-the man you say she loved so deeply- and then Renly turning into Jaime over and over again, she thinking if Jaime would comfort her is she gave up her quest and return to him without Sansa and actually thinking that this is what men –Jaime- may want; a dame in distress to contort, she saying his name over and over again when she is injured etc.), but from this to actually turn it the other way around and say that Brienne cares about Jaime just like a sister –other than Cercei J - would care for her brother while her feelings for Renly were Looove, it is a huge difference. And not at all backed up by the books. On the contrary. The books point to the exact opposite. So I am very happy that the show goes into this direction, as well.

So, I have finally managed to read pretty much the entire thread (still 10 pages left :)) and here are the things I liked about the episode, more or less in the order the scenes appeared in the show. 1. Ramsay/Reek/Bolton/Locke/Wanda/Miranda interaction. I am not a fan of the whole Dreadfort subplot. I care very little about book Theon and even less about show Theon-I don´t understand the whole Alfie!!!!!!!! thing. And I think that Ramsey is creepy as hell. He may be even worse than Jeoffrey. But I liked the Dreadfort scenes in this episode. The chase in the woods was sinister. So was Ramsey´s smile when he greeted Wanda (who was actually kind of sweet). The interaction between Ramsey and Locke was very good- two creepy guys, of course they would get alone very well. The scene where Ramsey shows his power over Reek was brilliantly written and acted. And I LOVED Reek´s face when he finds out Robb is dead. I loved this moment. Especially since we didn’t get to see Jon´s first reaction to this death, I love that we at least could see Reek´s reaction. And the fact that he did care about Robb. I also thought it did some more justice to Robb´s character. To see that he has been loved. Miss him; beautiful, sweet boy. 2. STANNIS. Oh yes, I know that his fans are outraged and speak of his character´s assassination. But I like him in the show. Even more than in the books. The scenes in episode 2 were very nice. I liked the expression of Stannis´s face during the entire scene. You could actually see that he was not into the burning stuff. It is just another thing that he has to endure because, well, he is Stannis and he is stern as hell. Has to do whatever it takes to reach his objective. I liked the part where he defends Shireen. I liked the sarcasm of Davos- simply love him. And I think that Selyse is creepy as hell. I don´t like her in the books and even less in the show. So yes, Stannis was great this episode. I also find interesting how every time we move to Dragonstone everything is so dark and gloomy. And yes, Shireen rocks. Such a nice girl. 3. Jaime/Tyrion. I liked their dynamic. I liked that for all of Jaime´s bravado in front of Jeoffrey and Tywin last episode, he is aware that he can no longer fight and Tyrion is the only one in whom he trusts with this piece of information. I liked seeing how depressed Jaime is because of this situation; because he is so getting down until he reaches bottom in the next episode with the sept scene and then he will start to raise again. I´ve loved to see Tyrion being protective and supportive of Jaime. Because from now on we will see the exact opposite: Jaime defending Tyrion. Also, a nice parallel: Tyrion serves Jaime wine out of his own initiative. Minutes later Jeoffrey orders Tyrion to pours him wine. 4. Brienne/Jaime. I loved that she acknowledged the fact that he saved her twice. I loved her smile when she spoke of Jaime and their "adventures" as if it was a private joke they had. And I loved seeing Cercei getting jealous. 5. Loras/Jaime. I loved the interaction, although generally I want Jaime to be the one who gets the upper hand. But they have done such a terrible job with show Loras, that I liked seeing him get the final word this time. I also liked the fact that Jaime does not threaten Loras directly. he says that Cercei will be the one to murder Loras. Also, I found nice the reference to Cercei murdering any children she might have with Loras. Didn´t she do the same thing with her child with Robert? I don´t remember exactly. 6. OBERYN. He simply rocked. 7. Sansa. very nice acting. I felt so badly for her. And I cheered up when she managed to remain composed throughout the entire 5 kings scene. 8. Jaime/Jeoffrey. I liked that he was there when Jeoffrey died. I didn´t like very much the way the "rushing to his side" scene was filmed. But it think it was a nice touch that both parents were there when he died. 9. CERCEI. So in book character during the entire episode. Finally we get to the insane Cercei part. The fact that she prefers the food being given to the dogs, just so that Margaery doesn´t do what she wants- who cares about the starved people, right?. Her dialogue with Brienne. The fact that even in her pain for her son´s death, she is still overcome by hate and vanity, and jealousy. She turns immediately on Tyrion instead of just crying for her child. And she shouts to Jaime to stay away from Jeoffrey. Why was that? Such a bitch! I can’t stand her.

I am confused. You seem to say that because Jaime seems to care-at least a little- that Jeoffrey dies, he loses some of his redeeming qualities. Isn´t it supossed to be the other way around? Jeoffrey is Jaime´s son, afterall. Wouldn´t it look like Jaime is a total jerk if he doesn´t care at all about his son????? Mad and horrible as this son may be. Besides Jaime is also the Commander of the KG. He could not stay there and do nothing. I thought that him rushing to Jeoffrey was a nice touch. I didn´t like the way they filmed the scene, though. The scene seemed comical. And Jaime a little bit of a fool; as in not being able to do his job and protect the king.