Muttering Bill

It's possible that they've been abducted by Tairy

He has been spotted hunting Lemmings recently... :ninja:

Wow. I'm quite disappointed in you guys - only 10 posts in this thread since I left work yesterday.

Well some of our regular 'daytime' members are missing (word and WLU specifically). Though that doesn't explain for last nights quiet.

I guess Jaxom's whining about a TTNE scared everyone away. :P

I'd just like to comment that the reason I found this place was that I saw a referance for this thread about those who detest Tairy (as I've already learned to call him) on another message board. While I only read a couple of the books years ago when I was in my late teens, possibly early twenties, my hate still lives for the works of the yeard.

Welcome aboard. I hope you enjoy your stay with us. If you don't feel like searching out all 27 threads, you can view some of the hightlights (also a handy reference guide) on The Blog of Truth, if you haven't visited already.

It's a little quiet today, but it'll pick up again soon enough.

@FT1B - I'm going to wait until you get the rest of the parody up before I read it. (Just thought you might like a little encouragement, since there haven't been any comments yet. :) )

You've got it all wrong! After "Confessor", Richard will learn that he is a wizard and doesn't have to live with his mean old aunt and uncle anymore! He will spend the next 7 years (32 books) at a school for witchcraft and wizardry where and his friends will have lots of adventures and make lots of speeches.

That's what I get for thinking. I'm just going to get in line and shut up. Which way to the cliff? :)

(I wouldn't be suprised if he does that. Tairy will only copy authors with as large an audience as his own. Well... kind of.)

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In the manuscript of Wizard's First Rule, which is twice as long as the book because it's double-spaced, there's a little tiny bitty torture scene with a woman named Denna, which lasts 70 pages. (Laughter) When my editor first saw this, he said, "Well, Terry, this is way too much and we need to cut down the explicit torture and violence."

The reason he said this is because I was successful in accomplishing my goal, and my goal was not to write about torture. My goal was to write about the true nature of abuse. The true nature of abuse is not violence or torture. What I was doing in that scene was showing you graphically the true nature, the true terror, of abuse.

He’s, as usual, giving himself credit for being a better writer than he is. He wasn’t showing the ‘nature of abuse’ but getting off on the process of abuse.

That is the terror of abuse: helplessness.

For me it was boredom.

Fantasy allows me to show you in a new way why abuse is so degrading -in a way you've never seen before because it surprises you to come at it like this, in this manner, and you discover yourself trapped in this character, Richard. You then understand what he's experiencing.

And fantasy is the only genre which allows for gratuitous and graphic sex/torture scenes?

More importantly, you fall in love with Denna

Ummm… nope.

I never write down to readers.

:lmao: :bs:

Not everyone gets it, but I think most people do.

Well, we don’t get it. At least, according to Mystar we don’t.

I couldn't read through the Q+A's - the centered text was too much for my eyes.

Anybody want to place bets on what the Confessor/WarWizard combo in a son in Tairy's books will do? My guess is that it will turn him into an uber sex machine that women are unable to resist and throw themselves at. So basically like father like son.

Except that it's not actually Dick's son at all... but half confessor/half Gar! :stunned:

I'll bet that he has twins - just like Rand.

(EDIT - and thank you for the explanation, word.)

"Take a beautiful painting like the cover of Faith of the Fallen - this painting of a sculpture of two people. A painting of such people does not show volition; the act of painting them does, because when you choose to paint the best life can be, you are acting of volition.

When an "artist" presents you with a non-objective painting, or story, what he is proclaiming is that there is nothing objective upon which to base anything."

Where I don't know Keith Parkinsons motivations, my guess is that he painted that for the paycheck. He took the scene that Tairy asked him to paint, and painted it. That he happens to be a talented artist has nothing to do with Tairy's 'objectivity.'

except on the TG.net boards where Mystar is hating me and the rest is just disliking and reading.

That's what happens when he loses an argument. "You just don't get it!" is his faithful old standby. Come to think of it, that usually his argument beforehand as well. I really must commend him on how many ways he can come up with to say the same thing.

But enough of that.

I can always appreciate Agulla's parodies, mostly because they are so out of sync with what the rest of us come up with. That said, this one wasn't quite as believable as previous efforts. Too much emphasis on SoT not being fantasy. It was funny all to same, but the last one stirred up a little frenzy of Lemmings thinking it was real. Of course, maybe it wasn't as convincing because we know your tactics now. Regardless... :cheers:

First, as funny as these threads are and as much as they help me get through my day at work, it would NOT be horrible if Tairy stopped writing. It would in fact be the complete opposite. As for Tairy stopping writing, he will not stop as long as there are still books to be copied.

:lol:

I don't even think he said its the last book of Rahl, I think just the end of this specific series. Pretty sure he plans on doing something else in the same..."world"...for lack of a better term.

As I've stated before, my bet is on him exploring the Confessor/Wizard son that Dick and Klan were supposed to have. I figure, that's why he put an end to it in this series; just to save it for later.

But as to that, I have a serious question to anybody whose read all of these books. I've only read the series up through FotF. At that point there was a certain hopelessness to the cause. The Old World is many times bigger, can gather a greater army, and will inevitably roll over the New World for it's sheer unrelenting size.

Here I started thinking that maybe he'd finish the series with the defeat of the New World, and pick up a second series with a revolution. Of course, at the same time, he seems to already have started a revolt. So my question, finally, is this still a plausible case? Or will the revolution tie up this series leaving the sequel series, posibly, to my original assumptions?

(Oh no! I'm in danger of spoiling the later books for myself. :/ )

It's only fair he gives some of it back in this parody. Unfortunately my skills wasn't up to the task.

I don't know if I'd say all that. It was funny. Probably just something I'd have been able to better appreciate, had I been familiar with the source material.

Though I do have a slightly better understanding, now, for your explanation.

It's so good to see parodies again. Sometimes I worry that we're getting away from what makes these threads so great.

We've had, what, 7 parodies now in the past few weeks. Not enough for you? :P

For your amusement, my first try at a parody in english.

Be gentle, it's not my first language... :leaving:

I'm going to admit... I just don't get it. Not that it wasn't funny, but I didn't really follow what the point was. I think that having never heard of, let alone read, Transmetropolitan took something away for me. :dunno:

He laughed. The secretary laughed. Everyone laughed. Then the secretarys jaw fell off and she died.

The woodsman laughed, the corpses of the ladies laughed, all the trees in the forest laughed together.

Will these lines ever stop being funny? :)

Anyway, I'm beginning to get the feeling that some of the people there can actually have reasoned and intellegent debates...

Right. "Except that gray is just black + white." That's not an intelligent debate; it's experimenting with crayons.

A couple of statements from one of our other 'friends.'

Commenting on SilverStar's mildly comical list:

Damn. I was hoping for a bigger reaction... back to the drawing board...

In response to Myshkin:

And apparently thinks that his, or any of his cohorts, opinions matter to us.

:bs:

I guess I'll link to this, although really it doesn't deserve any commentary, as it's just someone frustrated with the cycle, I suppose. After all, there's that "Reason's Light" website if some of you want some real ammo, but I'm not going to bother finding the URL for that one on a Friday night :P

It's about time we saw something resembling a sense of humor out of those people. I mean, it missed the mark, but it was still a good first attempt. Maybe next time they'll get it right.

I'd also like to add that Pita handled himself admirably.

I mean, I enjoy reading Tairy (now you people hate me) but it does not mean that I don't enjoy making fun of the moron for what he says outside of the books.

Nah, we don't hate you. You're just young. After all, I enjoyed these books too when I was 18. I grew out of it, and so will you.

Pick a speech, oh un-yearded yet yeasty one and we can all snark (or intelligently critique) as we please. Remember, we're lemmings and need to be shown the cliff before we can leap.

Why bother when we've got an equally impressive speech from out 'friend' to dissect? Maybe I'll dig into it if I have time later.

(EDIT: I just saw that Pita has already taken care of this one as well. It's got to sting to get your ass handed to you by a 15 year old. Nice work, Pita. :thumbsup: )

And one last thing... As I was making my way through Doctor Zhivago this weekend, I, of course, noticed that there was a passing similarity to life under the Soviets as to that under the IO. I was going to let it pass as coincidence. Until I came across this:

Dressed in his rags and accompanied everywhere by the boy, the tall, gaunt doctor looked like a peasant 'seeker after truth' and his companion like a patient, blindly devoted and obedient disciple.

And I found this one but a few minutes ago:

Thus she became Yury's third wife, though he was not divorced form the first, and they did not register their marriage.

Will these time travelling badits stop at nothing to try and discredit the Yeard? This one went back at least 36 years, the scoundrel!

I'll concede that I go further than I should, but I hate him more than most methinks. I definitely think that posting on the board without a soul is in poor taste. We're too loaded to treat the big posters fairly, and the less objectionable ones, the reasonable ones, they just like the books and probably haven't swallowed the crappy philosophy. And we should respect that.

So does this mean that we're not commenting on our 'friends' posts anymore? Yesterday, he put up a speech of Richard-like proportions that's just begging to be torn into.

(Edited for spelling; so WLU doesn't turn against my posts. :) )

ETA - I just noticed that every time I see the word 'Terry' now, my brain automatically changes it to read as 'Tairy.' I thought that was odd. Is anybody else doing this?

Alright, I'm confused now. I thought double posts were indicitave of real men?

No, it has since been decided that double posting is not cool. Editing is in now. :smoking: :thumbsup:

(Go read GOODKIND XXVI if you want to see the discussion about it - starting at p.16. No, I'm not giving you a link. What do you think this is, some kind of charity? :o It's probably not even worth it. Just follow along little Lemming. :) )

Ladies and gentlemen, I present for your review:

I don't even know why I bother responding to these things. Just when I'm feeling proud of myself for a good post, WLU comes along and smashes it into peices.

And I don't think any of you should attack anyone for spelling or grammar mistakes. You make enough of your own. I let a lot slide here.

I never really understood the point of that myself. It's just something to fall back on when you have to response to the argument at hand. But I think the point, this time, was just to highlight our 'friend's' hypocricy in starting us down the "no, you're spelling sucks" road. We should all keep this in mind:

...content is more important than spelling and grammar...,

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How on earth does a death-chooser like you earn a title?

Jealous?

To that I shall refer you to step 4:

Lemming membership in 4 easy steps:

1) Hate the Yeard

2) Post in the Goodkind threads

3) Read the Blog of Truth

4) Suck up to WLU until he grants you a title

It's all politics; you've just got to find the right ass to kiss. :kiss: ;)

(Now, Jaxom's probably going to tell me not to be 'that guy' who quotes his own post.)

I'm disappointed that no-one to date has commented on my X-Men reference. Sigh.

What reference? Sorry, not much of a comics guy.

Anyways, I'll regret it later, no doubt, but a link to that has been posted at wotmania.

Did you post that in the forums? I went peeking, to see if it's stirred anybody up yet. Couldn't find it. A link might be nice, just so we can check in on their responses.

I saw this over there and couldn't help but laugh. I mean we all know that Tairy's fans are delusional, but COME ON!

I saw that too. :lmao: I was going to post about it, but didn't have time. The bastards had the nerve to make me actually work at work today. The injustice! If I were truly celerious, I'd have kicked the boss in the jaw, and told her to have somebody else do it. But, alas, I need to keep my job. *sigh*

Another mention for your list word: the Heart Hounds(?) in SoT, which are very similar to the Darkhounds from WoT.

Wow, yesterday afternoon I was the top poster, but I’ve fallen hard since. Not that I really care though. I’m well content in my 5th/6th place spot. As long as I don’t get bumped down any further. Then I’ll have to start spamming, and nobody wants that – my regular posts are difficult enough to bear.

Some more SoT quote gems:

"You look funny without your pants." -Scarlet (Slut!)

"Well, my breasts aren't as large as yours, Berdine. I think Raina's hands would fit mine better." -Kahlan (Turboslut!)

"Dance with me death, for I am ready." –Richard (I was going to make some comment about Dick acting tough, but instead I’ll go with the WoT reference: Isn’t this what the Aeil say when going to battle?)

"To know Richard, is to know Kahlan." -Denna (Because Tairy only knows how to write one character. To know Richard is also to know every other character in these books.)

"I am the Seeker. I can do anything." -Richard (Megalomaniac!)

"What kind of plans would the Master Rahl have? I plan to conquer the world." -Richard (But he’s not a tyrannical dictator. Really.)

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I found this qoute in the .net thread.

And apparently thinks that his, or any of his cohorts, opinions matter to us.

Well, they do seem to matter to Mystar quite a bit. Why else would he be lurking these threads? He gets so thoroughly worked up over criticisms of his boyfriend. Ends up making an ass of himself almost as monumentally as the Yeard himself.

I feel so sad for Jordan and his fanatic. No wonder he can’t finish his series, he most likely goes back to see what he’s written and only skims it thus losing track of who did what, when and how…

Ummm… WoT is only one book longer than SoT. And has the benefit of a strong start. If I may be a little critical of Jordan’s past few books, I can at least say he’s consistent. That’s a luxury of having put in a little effort into word-building. Tairy’s not so much a fan of guidelines; his series might start to make sense within their own context. But then we wouldn’t be able to say “melon-sized plot holes†so often. :D

He said it was a pleasure to operate on a healthy patient for a change.

Because Dr's often operate on healthy people. :rolleyes: If he was healthy, his surgery just becomes that much more of a deperate need to steal Jordan's thunder. I mean... he's bragging about heart surgery!

(Edit: In retrospect, my original comments were too harsh.)

I wonder if Jordan dies, will Tairy follow his lead?

Again I am amused that after all this time the truth is finally admitted to myshkin et al are pseudo Nazi loving wanna bee’s. The moment I point this truth out, (A point that I had made more than a year ago) rises to the surface!

So, even knowing that he would forfeit the argument, he made the Nazi comparison? A heroic sacrifice. :ninja: (I have to use a ninja because there's no kamakize smiley.)

I bask in the flavors of his hate. It tastes like peaches and sunshine. Delicious.

So, how does one join up to the Lemmings of subjectivism.

Do I just walk off a cliff, or do I have to pay a fee first?

Lemming membership in 4 easy steps:

1) Hate the Yeard

2) Post in the Goodkind threads

3) Read the Blog of Truth

4) Suck up to WLU until he grants you a title

But if you really want to pay... :D

:lmao:

I am dizzy now. For once, not because of your avatar, but for all the life living in that damned story.

:thumbsup:

The top posters from GOODKIND XXVI are:

The Wolf Maid 57

WLU 50

Myshkin 47

Jaxom 1974 38

word 34

Muttering Bill 30

GoldenPanda 17

From that One Book 14

whelp 12

Dylanfanatic 11

VigoTheCarpathian 10

MinDonner 8

The Mad Moose 7

Maltaran 6

Erzulie the Unruly 6

Ecchi-Oni 5

Un-Yearded Pita 5

Angalin 4

PhelanArcetus 4

The Black Mamba of Dorne 4

All-for-Joffrey 3

Brahm_K 3

Padreic 3

Jerec 3

Werthead 2

Dycedarg 2

Agulla 2

Higravity 2

Speed Racer 2

Red Templar 2

Damned over-achievers! :)