Leonardo Abreu

He did not simply kill the king, it is mentioned he did after track down and murdered some other pyromancers besides the one whatshisname that was the Hand. As the guild years later claim to Tyrion that they “recently” found the caches, maybe the ones Jaime killed were the only ones that knew the exact locations and did not tell even at swordpoint. Or maybe they told of one or two other caches that Jaime did take care of but just did not think about yet in his POVs.

I don’t think this is a problem with the Kingsguard’s vow, but rather that nobody is alowed to strike the royals, vow or no vow. That was the crime of Dunk against Aerion, of Arya against Joffrey, and the argument Ned uses to convince Robert to not fight in the melee.

Despite the different scenarios, I like to think of Robert as a parallel to Conan, if Conan instead of eventually becoming a good ruler for Aquilonia, had given in to whoring and drinking as would be expected of him.

Aside from the obvious Stannis and Dolourous Edd lines, the one which stands out is when Jaime is told he doesn’t know what honor is and just thinks “a horse”.

So the graves are not opened and all those shades are not let loose on the world.

Littlefinger and Varys. For third, if by the start of the series is before the “opening of half a hundred graves” I would say to kill Mance. If it is not soon enough to stop it, then kill Joffrey.

The theory mostly arises in a try to explain the support they had given to Renly, because it seems like too risky a move otherwise. the 1st Blackfyre rebellion divided the realm, but were based on the assumptions of Daemon worthiness and having the blade AND the rumors of Daeron II being ilegitimate. Other BF rebellions were more contained on the number of Houses involved. Robert’s rebellion divided the realm, but was fired up mostly on the arbitrary execution of a great lord and his heir, which was the breaking point of years of erratic government. Balon’s rebellion should have thaught what happens when someone tries to crown themselves on a whim. But Renly’s claim was not based on Joffrey’s bastardy (and Renly makes it clear in the parlay with Stannis), it was open rebellion against the supposed legitimate ruler because… Renly was big and handsome and Loras vouched for him? That was too much of a gamble even for an oportunistic house. They had too much to lose.

Morale was low after the Trident, and Mace surrendered to Ned in Storm’s End. Maybe this theory/plot is an aftethought to salvage the situation after this.

No, in this theory they would win against Stannis that day, then topple Joffrey and subdue or, perhaps, reintegrate the North peacefully. Then they would bid their time, consolidate power and remove Renly, creating a power vaccum to be eventually filled with either Viserys or Aegon. This was a tactical retreat. They realized it would be no good fighting for a 8 year old boy, they made peace and plotted in the shadows (just like the Martells were doing) for the future.

Could the Tyrells be in secret working towards a Targ friendly agenda, maybe even being in league with Varys (being Aegon true or not)? Premises: House Tyrell owes all its status to the Targaryen conquerors They stood loyal through all other rebellions in the past But the issue I’ve been thinking is their support to Renly’s claim. They weren’t questioning Joffrey’s legitimacy (that came before Stannis’ letter), they had no apparent cause of discontent (unlike Robb or on some way, Balon). They were simply backing up a rebel claimant against the, to public knowledge, true heir and, by Renly’s admission, supported mainly by military strength - effectively a conquest. This is a great risk being taken by a previously pro-estabilishment house, and involving all their vassals who also seemed loyalists in the padt, just on the “will put a Tyrell descendant (through the female line) on the throne in the distant future” aim. Unless, here comes the crackpot, they follow on the opportunity to topple the official Baratheon dinasty, and back up a claimant who they know is just a “knight of summer” that they could easily remove later when the time for a Targaryen return comes? Olenna sure showed being able and willing to remove an undesirable monarch. They probably bet on Renly not producing an heir at all, and maybe plan to offer Margaery to Aegon/fAegon (or Viserys?) once Renly is no more (as it happened to Joffrey and Tommen), if Varys is involved. Maybe the plot of making Robert fall for Margaery was to be the sparkle for the realm’s destabilization Varys aimed for, before the whole other Tyrion kidnapping happened by pure chance.

He is, and he will face the Great Other once he reveals his secret identity. Which I have found: the Great Other is secretly in southern Westeros this whole time and is Taena’s husband. I figured it out by seeing his name on the page and folding it like a Mad Magazine. Thus O-rton Merrywea-THER becomes OTHER. It all fits, the Myrish Swamp, everything.

Trade to the Vale from where? Seagard? The Ironborn? From anywhere else south of the Blue Fork the Ruby Ford is much more viable. Again not saying the bridge is not useful, doubly so in times of war, but not that useful for the Freys to get THAT rich and powerful. Not when compared to houses controlling more trade-significantly placed hubs.

I have always wondered quite the opposite. How did they get so powerful by building a bridge that to me is mostly used by Jason Mallister to take a holiday on the Narrow Sea beaches? It was important for Robb to attack the Riverrun besiegers, sure, but on day to day? I don’t see a major trade route passing there to justify their status.

I have played both computer games, the one with the Night Watch ranger and the Red Priest, and the kind of 4x one. Both were fun, the story of the RPG one was nice, being connected to the ASOIAF plot without much interference. And the 4x was interesting in revisiting historical battles. Pity they don’t saw much development and polishing with more content after.

No sympathy for most of the Slaver’s Bay characters, even the ones that seem to have turned to Daenerys. The Florents around Stannis as well, including the queen.