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  1. No, sorry. Different passage, in fact different book. Jojen dreamt the crow needing him and his sister to break chains and take the wingwolf beyond the wall, so there's no role for their father to play, because they got it covered
  2. Im not sure how common it is, tmk we hear it once which Arya immediately refers to as "stupid" lol. Wait, Slim? I think you mean guaranteed? Jojen dreamed of a liberated north and dreamed of breaking the ww's chains. So even if Bran was not the correct option then HR would know his kids would continue their journey and free Sansa. Right? Jojen didnt dream of his dad breaking chains.
  3. Yea real weird. Very cool. A little before and after is offputting too. It is well established that it's morning, and then all of a sudden lots of time jumps. Is Theon the Ghost? Well another one, a Smegol to his Gollum... or is it a Gollum to his Smegol? Im really on the fence that hes out here Jaqen Hgharing the fantasies of a mentally unhinged child, although thats exactly what the ghost of harrenhal was...
  4. Definitely possible. lol, like, Bards, relatives and fiancees? Whered she get those ideas lol. My headcanon is that both girls, at the ripe age of still children, will be super mature and independent. More Sansa then Arya who easily makes friends and creates the pack mentality easier. Yea np, that sucks to hear, but keep your head up!
  5. . Ah damn, my brother had that a few years back. Get rest and I hope you feel better soon. They were at a party together once, for sure. And then of course Ned woulda died if it werent for Reed, whatever that means (I dont think it means super-kamehameha) But there's zero interaction or any conversation about them too. It's possible that theyre friends but it's also possible that theyre not. Reed is really interesting with their loyalty. Why didn't they come to Robb? Robb never seemed upset and on his campaign to retake the north hes grateful they're there but still strange imo. Also the Reeds struck up almost a Walder like deal, they required guarantees for loyalty, explicitly not undying. Obviously this is all extremely workable, but still noteworthy. No, but let me reiterate. Sansa is mistrustful of knights, has a horrible relationship with the profession and would if not flat out refuse to join them then would be extremely hesitant to go on any escapade where her safety and wellbeing depend on their mood and orders.
  6. Not even a man, truth be told So, Im not entirely sure what passage your refereeing to. Citation please? But even without, this is a regular style of GRRM I think, which we see in Tyrion or Arya pov's for example. Tmk the only true "unreliable narrator" is Sansa and her unkiss and also Barri and his memory conflicting with documented events. (There was also that Vic scene where they burned his arm) So I cant spell Gollum without Ring. Theyre too connected imo, and while Jeckyl and Hyde got the potion which is a strong image I dont think it holds weight compared to the Ring. Theons father, too cheap to sell his own soul for his transgression, sold his son's. That Theon grew up missing something "vital" is of course debatable but Theon himself sees himself as a victim and his conquest of Winterfell was a way of buying back his soul. Enter stage left Ramsay The pull of conquest, the fear of imprisonment the lack of a singular identity, I think are Theon's Rings. They drive him and they turn him. Also, Gollum never fully killed Smeagol and vice versa. More of a Harvey Dent situation I believe, where the two "peoples" are in a discussion/conflict and not like a Jeckyl situation where the mind will manifest into a stranger, like Me Myself and Irene.
  7. Guten Morgen. I think the easiest criticism is that her father only had one friend and he turned out to be something of a mad tyrant. But other ones are that Sansa is not looking for a knight and then more to the point, Gallant knights? This according to Sansa is an oxymoron, and from a literary perspective, its step backwards for Sansa to be rescued by one of these "gallant knights" who would take her to like the isle of faces where she learns how to do a super-kamehameha or whatever. This would feel like a large pivot from her plot as a plotter which has her next to Petyr learning his trade, not the magical one that Eddard long ago slit its throat (Lady) Ok, more things that dont make sense. Winged Wolf, cool story. Are the kids "dead" like that? Ramsay hung the bodies of "Bran and Rickon" above that gate so in all likelhood the greiving father would want to war on Bolton and not kick it with Sansa. Or is she like the second option now that Bran and Rickon have died for Reed to witness a Super Stark Sayin or whatever the plan is? Speaking of Sansa not being the second plan. Shes not. Robb cut her out the will like a cancer, sending Riverlords and Northern lords to Reed to both prepare for Prince Jon and also get ready for Robb's northern campaign, obviously the RW changed that but not the will. For Robb's knights to approach Reed only for him to immediately leave and shoot the breeze with the exact persons disqualified from the will is a dick move. We dont know if HR is a dick, we know the Mouse is though. We also though know that HR's kids are like the most polite and sweetest kids you'll ever meet which makes me think the HR has manners which surely the Mouse does not.
  8. Cool comparison! Would we be different? The great Borimer tried to kill Frodo for the ring too, "greater" "men" then Smeagol have done worse under the circumstances. It's undeniable that Smeagol lost the fight (Frodo does as well) but does Theon have to? Theres no Ring to blame it on, true, but the Ring is more then his creation, its his drive. Also theres plenty of things to blame past Theon's behavior on, like foremost being a child victim of human trafficking forced to carry his jailors weapon to all executions, primarily deserters. So who's who? At first look "you gotta remember your name" is a giveaway, but Reek is not Gollum. Like he doesnt remember his name and he eats rats and thats funny but Gollum is a beast and Smeagol is submissive. Theon was the beast, Reek is submissive. Theon would take Ramsay to the "spider", Reek would never. So perhaps it is unwise to trust Theon as easily and rewardingly Ramsay trusts Reek. After all, to remember his name, is Greyjoy (what is dead may never die but ... ) By and large and untrustworthy group
  9. Its pretty easy to trace back to him, she is carrying his sword after all. But totally a betrayal to his sister, and possible treason or whatever, agreed. Also, this. Cat gave Brienne the assignment, excuse me, assignments. Brienne is going to look for the girls, only thing stopping her would be like Loras' blade, or Lannister handcuffs. The real question I think is Why did Jaime go back/ jump in the bear pit. Brienne got Jaime back home, that it wasn't in one piece we and Jaime know, is because of him. To hinder her now and side with Cersei is a stain on his honor. Not the metaphorical kind to show off to your dinner guests and hostages but the self-conscious kind that Jaime regularly struggles and debates with. More to the point, Briennes honor was stained when Jaime lost his hand and as that was Jaime's fault he perhaps wants to help her which is why he gifts her with Tommens decree and a cool million in unmarked dragons and stags. And lastly because of Jaime's lack of a hand this magic sword is a joke, and a bad one. Funny but bad. Jaime is not worthy of "Oathbreaker" but she is. And like he said, the poetry of Stark's protector wielding Ice, at least half an Ice, isn't missed either and perhaps was the first indication she could use his help. Also, lastly lastly, he wanted to. Because Jaime, at least nowadays Jaime, does what he wants.
  10. Not right away, it's like the last five pages of the book he finally finds her. Sansa got that bounty, half of Westeros is looking for and I think it'd have been kinda silly for Brienne to find the girls before actual professional bounty hunters would. I'd also find it silly if that professional turned out to be her godfather who she never met and who should really be. Up north looking out for his dying children and not like, hanging out with Petyr Shad is a fish? Like herring? And rich is like a money thing, so maybe something like this dudes a red herring and not gonna get paid?
  11. Lol, I think seeing Rome getting hit maybe triggered something when he saw his song get hit too. And Ken's quote is pretty good there too "What the FUCK is wrong with you?" ( I actually think that Iverson's hit is what triggered Ken to take out his dad and then when his dad said the waiter was "not a real person" like all those girls reactivated him to try to take out his dad again. I do think Ken thought he was a good person, honestly. But of course he wasnt and never was.) Truly a fantastic show. Wasnt he the bad guy in Borne? Agamenon wasnt worse than that lol. Its really the dialogue too that can bring an actor into overdrive which early agot did have, so idk, just dye his hair black and I think he'd have been superb. I do like Addy but I like to think what coulda been, like how the first choice for Anakin Skywalker was Leo Dicaprio instead of Christonson
  12. Yea he was really good. Not the same level though. Headey put up like Pachino numbers. Of course they are. Tywin maybe less so, privileged fuck wasn't privileged enough. But the coldness of Dance is still enough, if not for me to cheer him on, at least feel something for him. Sentencing Tyrion and getting killed by him was pretty sad stuff. Cersei is sympathetic. She's a victim and a fighter of the patriarchy. A good guy? Hell no. But a childless mother? We don't have to agree with a characters politics to recognize tragedy. Tyrion really does get boring, there's a large gap between boring and saint, one that the book walked with ease, or waddled, but the show fell real flat. But Tyrion is not an antagonist, Jaime hardly either and if Cersei is one it's mainly to her brothers. You know who did a decent job? Bean level even, Mark Addy. And lots of the sympathy I feel, even pity, is reinforced with his acting and scenes like But Addy was the second choice, Brian Cox, Mr. Logan Roy himself, one of the scariest actors I've ever seen would have totally changed the dynamic if he was the one honoring her Which would totally reinforce that Cersei is super sympathetic even without Headeys star performance. (Not that Addy wasn't scary, he was, but also a bit stuck. Like he wasn't in to it, not like the mad tyrant sociopath Logan Roy would. (Like when he hit his grandson!)
  13. I think Joff was a surprisingly good actor too, Jaime Tyrion and Tywin too. I also thought Sansa, Ramsay and Dany did a hell of a job. But Cersei? What a fucking tremendous actor (didn't dazzle me in 300 tho) 10/10 performance, the only accurate way to describe her acting is iconic. Tbh, A game of thrones is a lousy show despite the performance of some of the cast stated above, and some others. But if it weren't for Headey, the show would be unwatchable.
  14. Mamamoo? Wasnt this Song/Jin times? So at least split in two, and then I think I remember lots of rebellions against the Jurchen plus the Jin's hold on the south was never that great. Also Kublai was involved in a civil war which wasnt the case for Aegon, and lastly I really dont think Aegon was that impressive, but Kublai definatly was. Now having said that, Westeros is super Chinese lol. Hadrian's Wall? Gimmie a break. Specifically, I bet, Romance of Three Kingdoms inspired, many parallels with the characters. But like Dragon throne? But he didnt. right? Subatai continued his war in Russia? And the next election was held like 5 years later, leaving plenty of time for canvassing and polling like yould expect an election to go down? Dont get me wrong, Im not of the belief that the Mongols tuck tail and ran because thats ludicrous, Hungarian propoganda in full effect, but it's unwise to believe the Mongols either. Theyre really Plains Native American inspired. I see lots of Alexander the Great, who still has a great reputation in the West when compared to Khan, (it's all in the name) but also a total sociopath in war and family/friendship, not to mention one lucky son of a bitch (god) who had a weakened and vulnerable landscape to like the edge of the world. But also undeniable military geniuses, like Robb, but not at all like Tywin who's only military feat in the series was hiding in Harrenhal from Robb until he gave it to Vargo.
  15. All mercenaries are terrible, they're Wagner. These are private armies whose only interest is blood and money. As these are usually the foargers and scouts pillage and other high crimes become a common occurrence. The second sons under Mero were just as bad, Stormcrows and Darrio wanted to RW the slavers. All sellswords are scum by definition It says they pillaged. From the last shit I posted, a direct order from George Washington, "His Excellency General Washington strictly forbids all the officers and soldiers of the Continental army, of the militia and all recruiting parties, plundering any person whatsoever, whether Tories or others. The effects of such persons will be applied to public uses in a regular manner, and it is expected that humanity and tenderness to women and children will distinguish brave Americans, contending for liberty, from infamous mercenary ravagers, whether British or Hessians." . That's how I'd describe Vargo, an infamous mercenary ravager, no more no less. And so on? Have you read anything I cited? Hessians in America were almost exclusively smallfolk with little military training who got paid next to nothing and every officer looked the other way when it came to plunder, when they didn't just take their men's booty for themselves that is. Fuck those guys though lol
  16. But some did. And it's all awful and illegal. They didn't torture for the fun of it, Vargo may like chopping of hands and Tickler may like tickling, but they were both doing their job. (Well Vargo was working for himself). Sounds an awful lot like Hessians. A very specific and hard case which is the work of Biter, who literally escaped from a maximum security prison and was able to lose himself in the fog of war. But in war, for regulars and especially sellswords, it's a thing. https://www.olddutchchurchnyc.org/the-new-nation
  17. Foraging for food requires Bloody Mummer methods usually Exaggerated perhaps, demonized it's already rape and murder. That plundering was a regular thing I think I've shown plenty of evidence for though Backed by some lady who wrote a book, I just watched a YouTube video where she talked about it for an hour. Interesting stuff but told through their perspective so not much on the guilty of rape and murder parts. (Although she does talk a tiny bit about them being foargers and pillagers) I agree they probably werent that much worse then the rank and file but they were really bad too, so I still think comparisons between the wars aren't bad. Better then the 30 years at least which was backed with a religious affair
  18. I don't see much in them being like not mercenaries here (plus it's history channel which is the home of ancient aliens and therefore I'm kinda dubious lol) That one quote from the author though . “The Germans quickly concluded that the Americans were ungrateful,” says Baer. “Since everyone was doing so well, why the heck were they rebelling? Why would you rise up against a king under whose rule you were able to grow so prosperous?”“The Germans quickly concluded that the Americans were ungrateful,” says Baer. “Since everyone was doing so well, why the heck were they rebelling? Why would you rise up against a king under whose rule you were able to grow so prosperous?” . Mixed with the fact that they hardly got paid anything, I think plunder was definitely a thing. I found a quote by Aaron Burr( "Various have been the reports concerning the barbarities committed by the Hessians, most of them [are] incredible and false." (Matthew Davis, Memoirs of Aaron Burr, Vol 1. p. 107).) So that looks good for them, but like the history channel this an Aaron Burr quote who was a liar and a traitor who wanted to be like king of Kansas or whatever lol
  19. Such a strange thing to say to your partner I feel so bad for her, especially since after this whole depacle she has to hook up with like a 7 year old
  20. Tbh Im not so against this course. Short term obviously horrible, but if Cersei is able to regain leadership and keep faith, with the faith, she has her own private army which isn't necessarily terrible. As far as Stannis, really the chances of him taking the throne I'd put to the value of 0. So the ironbank can lend him like a trillion dollars, but what's a trillion times zero?
  21. Worse then Gregor and co? Or Karstarks men? (who we don't get a close look at but see them being punished by Robb and the mad huntsman) Maybe worse but like, it's hard to get past level 10 No rush. American football starts today so I'ma be tving it pretty soon anyway
  22. I'll try to find more stuff, I'm pretty interested, but maybe like a week or something. I may have to books but hopefully I can find a ulr or whatever. Ooh, citation? I'd love to look at that too. I assume plunder was banned for all these sellswords, but, probably for all of em too, Hessians were paid next to nothing and had to find means of survival/wealth which I'm assuming is not the case for the rank and file. Like contemporary, or a month ago, Russian troops are bad Wagner are worse (maybe?) Or during, there were plenty of Indian massacres during the revolution too. But that's just whataboutism, Karstarks brutality doesn't cancel Vargos. They're forigen too. Not "our boys". Harrenhal was not a death camp, the camps pre Harrenhal were almost that horrendous but that was Gregor. Vargos not actually chopping off everyones leg, that's just a wildly inflated rumor. So, maybe there's some of this too
  23. It's hard to see much progress. If I may, the first plan with Lord protector El Duce Eddard Stark where Renly would serve as his "Greg" and the three Lannister boys and their mother chained up like a BMX just invites nothing but non yielding war fought on the behalf of Stannis and Tywin. With Neds and Renlys reputation falling faster then Richard IIIs. But second plan, with give all functions to Tyrell as long as I get to wear that ugly hat, you know it's better then the first but again not great. Assuming he defeats Stannis what does he do against Robb? Renly made it clear he won't be anything short of an absolutist so the deal with Greyjoy is off the table as well, aside from Mance though perhaps not, Renly had I think the most difficult road out of all his contemporaries. And again if everything goes right he'll probably just get usurped by Tyrell which he insists handle the administration like Robert did Lannister. Except while Lannister is shrewd and calculating Tyrell is not
  24. I cant find these mass graves which is like frustrating me to no end lol. Not their oppression on NYC. But as far as then being a bunch of bloody mummers, that's eaiser (but I swear they did go in during both instances.) https://www.mountvernon.org/library/digitalhistory/digital-encyclopedia/article/hessians/ https://marcliebman.com/what-were-the-hessians-paid/ This article is more about how much money they made and explains why like in that podcast episode I recommended they pillaged and raped and ran a muck.
  25. The Americans lol. (or really just the New Englanders). But yea, all of America was super anti Catholic and therefore hesitant to jump in bed with France. Because they arent Vargo. The whole issue was extremely decisive, it was a real civil war pitting family against each other. But wars over, gotta heal. Like the black dragon. So I really do have to go, like Im late lol, but episode 121 of the American Revolution Podcast by Michael Troy, Battle of Iron Works Hill, touches up on some of these issues. (I googled cuz I was curious about Mercenaries/ Wagner/ Hessians and it did reinforce Michael Troys tellings, that the Hessians were hardly paid anything and plunder became a means of survival. Im sure i can refind that article, but later lol,sry
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