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  1. 12 minutes ago, Ice Queen said:

    When Jon and the wildlings pass the Wall, there is a green plant shooting up out of the ground. So spring is coming. 

    I missed that. So with the Others gone, the planet gets regular old winters like any dull old dirtball?

    Damn the Children of the Forest messed up in more ways than one.


  2. Roman democracy was essentially an oligarchy, even at its best times.

    Elective kingship has tended to go hand in hand with weak kingship, barring the occasional king that manages to maneuvre actual power out of a position that a lot of the nobles that elect him would prefer to have as little power over them as possible. It can be relatively stable, as things go - at least if the "constitutional" base for it is widely accepted - but also quite inefficient.

    The medievalesque technological development of Westeros doesn't really make it possible to have actual democracy. The continent is simply too large. Universal suffrage tended to be constrained by property or wealth qualifications even in the early-to-mid 19th century, and even those voters, with vastly more pocket money for travel (and pocket money for paying someone to run their farms for them)  would often be hindered from attending elections by weather, flooding, accidents, et cetera.

    At the "moment" Westeros is rather tired of war, so perhaps Bran can establish some sort of order early, especially as he has his own creature at the top in the Reach (and the Stormlands?) and the support of the now-not-a-subsidiary-kingdom North through sis. But in the future, it seems likely that the electoral kingship will remain rather inefficient as the great lords and ladies elect the least threatening kings they can get their hands on. This will likely mean more internal strife, especially between hereditary enemies such as the Reach, Stormlands and Dorne, piratical ambitions from the Iron Isles, and eventually (either through an alliance of great houses or a strong king that can wrangle power out of his position) attempts to reconquer the North.  

     

     


  3. 47 minutes ago, Daemos said:

    I don't think the prequels will succeed because of the last 2 seasons.

    We'll see, but I am guessing they will fail or succeed on their own merit. Entirely, since they do not have the books to build on. Unless they do relatively recent events the world is open enough for the writers to have quite a bit of wiggle room, as GRRM does not seem like he enjoys constraining writers too much, the usual problem with "owned-world literature".


  4. 32 minutes ago, Johan Wehtje said:

    West of Westeros is the spin off they need  to make.

    Previous attempts at exploring the Sunset Sea have probably failed because of their lack of face-changing assassins. I wish her luck. Those krakens won't know what stabbed them in the ink sack.


  5. 2 minutes ago, MommytoA said:

    Yep, we can see it now. Did you notice the surviving Starks' direwolves' names were their characters' endings? 

    Summer king Bran and mythic warrior queen Arya I can't really see, no ;)

    But I will give you Ghost John and Lady Sansa.


  6. Since it got necroed...

    If you read "The Accursed Kings" books by french novelist and Academy (francaise) member Maurice Druon, you'll find a lot of not only Westeros, but a variation of the character gallery in there. And Martin has stated flat-out that he loves Druon (he got the final books of the AK translated, so I finally could read the damn things without a thesaurus and my atrocious french).

    Even the layout of the Who's Who sections of ASoIaF closely resembles that of the AK series.


  7. 6 hours ago, NicciTarg said:

    Aren't those riders suspected to be dragonseeds?  I know Nettles is a little controversial. 

    That was the implication, but when random dockside prostitute's daughter or blacksmith's bastard can be a dragonseed, the net seems to be pretty big :)


  8. 14 hours ago, Ellimental said:

     

    Also, the thing that confused me: in the show, it seems, anyone can ride a dragon? Hence why no one realised Jon was a Targ the minute they saw him on Rhaegal. They definitely stretched dragonlore there.

    It happened during the Dance of the Dragons (Targaryen Civil War). The faction holding Dragonstone had too few riders and more or less held a dragontamer contest. 

    With a high rate of attrition. And mixed final results, but they found riders even for the wild dragons.


  9. This is a bit like those 5-star reviews on goodreads that appear weeks before the book is actually released, but I had a lot of fun with the first 4-5 seasons and it is not like I dislike absolutely everything about season 6-8.


  10. 1 hour ago, Ser Gareth said:

    It's a curse of the faux educated (those that learn through reading, not doing or being taught by those that have done).  Everyone thinks they're an expert because they are working with more information than the characters in a story and they also apply hundreds of years of learnings to a situation the characters have never faced before.

    In 2019 sending the Dothraki charging towards a hopeless cause seems stupid and reckless.  And it was.  In 1916 hundreds of thousands of men lost their lives in a manner equally as stupid and reckless.  We can say that retrospectively now, but at the time it seemed like a sensible strategy.

    With that analogue, have to remember that the 1916 wave attacks were not the ideal plan. When the war started, the generals aimed for a more mobile form of warfare, and indeed, the germans achieved this, for a while, to the extent that the taxis of Paris were pressed into service to ferry troops to the front. It was only when the trenches eventually froze all along the border, after endless attempts at flanking, that they had to adapt to the new situation. Their solutions did not work, but they were born of a desire to attempt to break the deadlock.

    Most of the suggestions people here make for a more intelligent battle plan are based in exisiting tactics and strategies that would be the go-to solution for a high to late medieval commander, which after all is what Westerosi warfare is based on.


  11. In addition to inflicting casaulties, even if you can pull some parts of the sent away from  the main force before they reach Winterfell, you don't need to destroy them completely. You will have bought time if they have to gather them up, or reduced the main strengh of the army if they cannot make it.

    This should not be problematic for dothraki cavalry. They can pull away and disperse if they are engaged or followed by too large a force. The main problem will be keeping their horse strings alive with limited pasture. 

     

     

     


  12. It was made rather clear in the episode (with no build-up to it in earlier episodes and a rather limited explanation) that the Others want to kill Bran to the exclusion of all else. And as you write, it seems to be their modus operandi.

    If one wants to discuss the larger strategic picture, there was no real reason besides that for the dead not to just bypass Winterfell and head south. They would have a living army in their rear, but that’s not a big issue since they have no supply lines. Since wights have now have hydraulic properties in field battles, overrunning an army following them would be easier than attacking Winterfell.

    We will likely never know the answers to this until the final books come out, as the showrunners don’t care about it and the books don’t serve as a useable guide to how things work anymore - wights used to start rotting south of the wall, as I recall it. Which is reasonable enough given the nature of television shows. 

     


  13. 90 kg fra weigh  with from a wooden lath. You are optimistic to a fault. Even the laughably weak chu-ko-no requires å properly made lath. Or it will either not function as a missile weapon beyond 15 paces or snap. If you want a lot of volume of easily constructed weapons at low range, you make darts or javelins. Or throw rocks from the walls.

    Unlike you, I seem to also have been outdoors with no artificial light source in the dark. You cannot see in pitch darkness. But this battle is not being fought in a basement. It makes large scale maneuvres difficult, but limited ones can be carried out.

    The Night King has very weak control directly over his wights, as we see when they spend several minutes trying to throw themselves on a bonfire. The army og the dead is slow to react to orders (and rather easy to distract when not being directly controlled, it seems).


  14. 2 hours ago, House Cambodia said:

    Right, but there's so much more. What's the connection between our Bran and Bran the Builder? His 'magic' sealed the Wall from the Others, and it seems only our Bran can facilitate the Others access through/over the Wall. And how about that network of tunnels that seem to be both north and south of the Wall? I suspect the Winterfell crypts are also connected. I think there's a whole population of Children yet to be discovered, and that's in addition to the Crannogmen (Reeds) and what in the God's Eye.

    I don't really think we'll get all our questions answered, or the books are going to be 4000 pages each.

    Perhaps he'll publish some Appendices after A Dream of Spring. Buy an add-on to your book, turn ADoS from 1500 pages to 6500 pages.


  15. The trebuchets would usually be mounted on the battlements and towers, yes. The 19th century misunderstandings of mangonels the Unsullied drag around would likely be smaller, drawn trebuchets. You can get decent ranges with those too.

    You can't just make wooden crossbow laths from any old wooden beam, though. The laths have to have a good latewood to earlywood mix (even if you use something just ok for laths like ashwood) so they can be made thick enough for the draw to work with any strength, or you just get a toy crossbow. The tillering of the lath is a lot of work as well, and all of this is fairly specialized work too (the string, stock and lock are easier if you have a decent smith and woodworker). This all can take a long time, which is why bows and crossbows typically are made before a campaign (as we see in many requisition lists and orders from when we have surviving examples) whereas many war engines can be built on campaign. Although, of course, they often premade parts of those as well. The main advantage of the crossbow is that it doesn't take years to train a crossbowman as compared to a bowman, not that the production is easier. 

    If Winterfell is equipped in any way like a typical late medieval (pre-gunpowder takeover) castle, there could be some premade trebuchets, springalds and great crossbows lying in the armory, for campaign use and counterbattery fire. Of course, there would also be a bowstave and possibly crossbow raw material supply there, or even a store of finished examples. It depends on whether the Boltons resupplied the castle when they took it over and how thoroughly Theon and the ironborn looted the armory way back then.
     


  16. 9 minutes ago, House Cambodia said:

    True, but the experience of the journey is somewhat tainted when you know it's going to end in a car crash.

    Could be we get an elegant swerve with some bumper damage instead. I have never believed the ending scene was going to be the Big Fantasy Battle Against The Hordes of The Dark Lord.

    I don't think that the showrunners have wildly deviated from the main plot resolution. But it can be handled well in the coming books. For example, one of the central themes of Cersei in the books is that she isn't really clever. She thinks she is, but in general she has, as Varys says, ridden on her looks and family connections. She's also been EXTREMELY lucky (all those golden shrouds excepted) in the show, presented as her own strategy, but mainly her successes have been based on fortitious events and blind luck. Incompetent people can do well, if they are lucky at the right time and chaos serves as their ladder. So if her journey is handled like that in the books it will make more sense. Only at the end will Cersei come face to face with her own incompetence and inability to form close alliances, and if she is true to her character, she will go down blaming everyone else, as many loonie dictators do.


  17. Climate change or nuclear winter or marmot apocalypse as the source of inspiration for the others, I believe the books likely will end like the series does in the overarching storyline. But I also believe a Song of Ice and Fire (assuming George finishes it) vs Game of Thrones will be a good example of why the main overarching story is secondary to good and consistent writing and creative intrigue along the way - it is the journey that matters, not the ending.


  18. The issue here is that if the army of the dead just ran straight to Winterfell, washing over Last Hearth on the way, it would likely still take at least two weeks. It is 630 miles as the crow flies. If they had an army of Usain Bolt zoombies sprinting at 28mph on a concrete trackway built from the Wall to Winterfell, it would take a day. Of course, the wights don't really run all that fast (average semi-fit human running speed on a flat surface is around 6mph, wights seem to move somewhat slower than that) and they definitely moved cross-country and stopped to attack a castle at least once.

    With this pace, they would not really have time to run around overrunning holdfasts to bolster their numbers. So unless the population north of the wall was insanely big and they got them all (a people that burn their own dead), they'd need to do this too. 

    This would take weeks if not months. Even with zoombies running flat out and falling apart as they do (they're quite brittle, as we've seen).

    But it doesn't really matter. After season 4 or so, the concepts of space and time has become meaningless in Westeros. Anyone will teleport anywhere they need to be, anytime. 

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