Nyrhex Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Hi all, Wanted to raise this question, since I find the wiki entry rather confusing. The entry claims that during the war there were five (5) belligerents. It also adds a cross next to belligerents who died, and added "lost his seat" next to Stannis' title, since he is the last one of the original five to still be alive, yet is not the winner. Now read that bolded part again. See a problem? As pointed by Archmaester Benedict, Balon was only crowned after Renly died and his cause was lost. So, not all kings/causes existed at the same time. Another problem is, not all of the belligerents faught for the same thing. Stannis and Joffrey both claimed to be the true heirs, and were in a succession war. Renly rebelled and wanted to win a war of conquest. Balon only wanted to rebel and conquer a part of Westeros, while making alliance with the other part. Robb rebelled and wanted independence for the North, the Riverlands, and was willing to fight for the Iron Islands as well, if they join them. So, not a single conflict, but rather, a group of conflicts. Basically, the only thing connecting the wars is the fact that they happened at about the same time, in Westeros. After the Blackwater, Stannis is on Dragonstone, yet he refuses to make peace. He even jails his Hand for trying it behind his back. Tywin waits for the Redwyne fleet to arrive, so he could finish Stannis. Stannis continues from there to the Wall before that happens (which causes Tywin to fear that the war could drag for years), and from there he is still trying to fight the Lannisters (this time thier Northern host under command of Roose Bolton - Lannister appointed Warden of the North).Back on the Iron Isles, Euron inherits his brother's war, and expands it's goals - Westeros. The troops in the North are abandoned, but the North is still one of the goals by definition. If two of the original conflicts are still ongoing, and more are added (Conflict beyond the Wall, the Faith Militant and the landing of the GC), how can the war be over? Part of the conflicts are over, but the name has been established as grouping at least one war that was added (Balon), and one that has ended (Renly). Should the wiki entry be changed to show that Westeros is still at war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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