Nucky Thompson Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 There have recently been a lot of topics on these forums about whether Roose has something supernatural about him or even ties to the Others. Those threads seem to have missed an obvious piece of evidence given by Roose himself. When he holds council with the Freys at Harrenhall, during his leeching, Roose tells one of the Freys: "I am not a man to be undone, Ser." The conventional meaning of his statement suggests that here Bolton tells his allies that he is too cunning to find himself in the undesirable situation suggested by them. However, if we take a closer look at the wording of his phrase, it seems that he may have had something entirely different in mind: "I am not a man [in order] to be undone, Ser." Is it possible that the bolded part of the sentence is what he really wants to say, and the rest (in italic) was added for making it seem innocuous enough? If we consider the context of the situation, Roose might have actually been exactly where he wanted: the sinister reputation of Harrenhall, Roose's episode of book burning and him getting along with Qyburn all suggest that Bolton's capture of Harrenhall might have served other and more significant purposes than merely extending the influence of the King in the North further south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missionary Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I just imagined Roose blurting out “I am not a man!” and then stabbing the Witch King in the face… In all serious though unless Roose is making a little inside joke that only he is in on (which sounds very Rooseish) then I think he was just stating he’s not the type of guy who loses. But I do like the Idea of the inside joke. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckthorn Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 The only character I can picture Roose confessing to is Qyburn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Uncle P Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 If we consider the context of the situation, Roose might have actually been exactly where he wanted: the sinister reputation of Harrenhall, Roose's episode of book burning and him getting along with Qyburn all suggest that Bolton's capture of Harrenhall might have served other and more significant purposes than merely extending the influence of the King in the North further south. the sinister rep of harenhall is nothing to do with the Others, but goes back to Aegon I burning the place and the Aemond/Daemon dragon duel in TPaTQ and subsequent misfortunes on the occupants. Qyburn in a sinister fucker but there's nothing inhuman about him, and the book burning needn't be an Easter Egg or Chekov's gun or any such thing. Roose is a sinister figure, but there's nothing to suggest he ain't human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted December 8, 2013 Author Share Posted December 8, 2013 I also forgot to mention, that while he was uttering this phrase, Roose "smiled faintly". A joke on the Freys all the way... Qyburn is totally human, it's just his professional interests that are off. Who better than Roose to offer insight on creating UnGregor? And Harrenhall has a sinister reputation due to Lady Lothston's rituals - something Qyburn would be very interested in. It may have been the reason for him joining the Brave Companions in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Egeman Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Think about the "to be undone" part as well. Can this suggest that he cannot be unmade, as in undead or "immortal"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Vaes Tolorro Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 This is almost as bad as Roose Bolton is a vampire. I am not a man to be undone? Honestly I could argue that Tywin is the Prince who was promised, or Rhllor's chosen king just because he was a man to come in once in a thousand years. (paraphrasing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joluoto Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I think he's a Leprechaun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Vaes Tolorro Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 joluto: I think he's a Leperchaun THIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice and fire freak Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I reckon he the other half of Tormunds member,roll on WoW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Fox Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I never once thought that Roose wasn't human or had supernatural ties, though if he has a connection to the Others that would be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ours if the Fury Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 There have recently been a lot of topics on these forums about whether Roose has something supernatural about him or even ties to the Others. Those threads seem to have missed an obvious piece of evidence given by Roose himself. When he holds council with the Freys at Harrenhall, during his leeching, Roose tells one of the Freys: "I am not a man to be undone, Ser." The conventional meaning of his statement suggests that here Bolton tells his allies that he is too cunning to find himself in the undesirable situation suggested by them. However, if we take a closer look at the wording of his phrase, it seems that he may have had something entirely different in mind: "I am not a man [in order] to be undone, Ser." Is it possible that the bolded part of the sentence is what he really wants to say, and the rest (in italic) was added for making it seem innocuous enough? If we consider the context of the situation, Roose might have actually been exactly where he wanted: the sinister reputation of Harrenhall, Roose's episode of book burning and him getting along with Qyburn all suggest that Bolton's capture of Harrenhall might have served other and more significant purposes than merely extending the influence of the King in the North further south. I also forgot to mention, that while he was uttering this phrase, Roose "smiled faintly". A joke on the Freys all the way... Qyburn is totally human, it's just his professional interests that are off. Who better than Roose to offer insight on creating UnGregor? And Harrenhall has a sinister reputation due to Lady Lothston's rituals - something Qyburn would be very interested in. It may have been the reason for him joining the Brave Companions in the first place. Think about the "to be undone" part as well. Can this suggest that he cannot be unmade, as in undead or "immortal"? Then Explain how Roose Ages??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I just imagined Roose blurting out I am not a man! and then stabbing the Witch King in the face . :PFuck :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Vaes Tolorro Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 luckily I am not the Witch King, I am khamul of the east,LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaseBornBastard Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Even if Roose did have some Other blood in him and wasn't fully human, how would he really know it? Don't theories speculate that the Others mixed with the Boltons thousands of years ago? Modern Boltons would be completely unaware of this dark aspect of their history. It's not like the secret has been passed from father to son for hundreds of generations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukle Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I think he's a Leprechaun. The proof is there: * Tywin has an affinity for gold and leprechauns like gold. * Tywin has a dwarf son and leprechauns are short. Proof he has been carrying this recessive genetic allele. * Tywin's children are mischievous. Because they are part-leprechaun. * This also proves Roose Bolton is actually Tywin Lannister. You never see them in the same room. Do you? Do you?! That's right. * I should've opened with "Roose is actually Tywin." That would've made this easier to follow but I wanted a dramatic revelation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night's Ranger Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 There are some pretty wild theorys,but this one is near the top. I just imagined Roose blurting out “I am not a man!” and then stabbing the Witch King in the face… I came here for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilrob6 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 The proof is there: * Tywin has an affinity for gold and leprechauns like gold. * Tywin has a dwarf son and leprechauns are short. Proof he has been carrying this recessive genetic allele. * Tywin's children are mischievous. Because they are part-leprechaun. * This also proves Roose Bolton is actually Tywin Lannister. You never see them in the same room. Do you? Do you?! That's right. * I should've opened with "Roose is actually Tywin." That would've made this easier to follow but I wanted a dramatic revelation. yes, just see how easily the TV-show replaced Roose with Tywin in the scenes with Arya in Harrenhal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukle Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 yes, just see how easily the TV-show replaced Roose with Tywin in the scenes with Arya in Harrenhal It's all coming together! :O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Fool Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 If Roose Bolton is not a man, then what is he? some sort of Man-Shaped Prune-Killing Machine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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