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What do you think about Dany's last chapter in aDwD


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u·surp (y-sûrp, -zûrp)

v. u·surped, u·surp·ing, u·surps

v.tr.

1. To seize and hold (the power or rights of another, for example) by force or without legal authority. See Synonyms at appropriate.

2. To take over or occupy without right: usurp a neighbor's land.

3. To take the place of (another) without legal authority; supplant.

Dany had no legal right to take over Mereen according to any existing legal structure. Call her a conqueror if you like, but she is every bit a usurper as Robert. More so, in fact.

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u·surp (y-sûrp, -zûrp)

v. u·surped, u·surp·ing, u·surps

v.tr.

1. To seize and hold (the power or rights of another, for example) by force or without legal authority. See Synonyms at appropriate.

2. To take over or occupy without right: usurp a neighbor's land.

3. To take the place of (another) without legal authority; supplant.

Dany had no legal right to take over Mereen according to any existing legal structure. Call her a conqueror if you like, but she is every bit a usurper as Robert. More so, in fact.

So true.

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Call her a conqueror if you like, but she is every bit a usurper as Robert. More so, in fact.

How so? Robert pledged fealty to Aerys as his king, Dany pledged nothing to Meereen. Robert jumped over the true heirs (the most common definition of usurper) to take the throne himself. Dany stole no throne in Meereen, because they've had no kings or queens for a thousand years.

Its Aegon the conqueror, not Aegon the usurper.

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How so? Robert pledged fealty to Aerys as his king, Dany pledged nothing to Meereen. Robert jumped over the true heirs (the most common definition of usurper) to take the throne himself. Dany stole no throne in Meereen, because they've had no kings or queens for a thousand years.

Its Aegon the conqueror, not Aegon the usurper.

Oh really? So what you are saying is that after slaughtering half the nobility with his nuclear option of dragons, and having his family rule after him for 300 years he gets to be called conqueror instead of usurper? Its a semantic game, one where you give the pejorative term to someone you don't like, and use the more positive term for yourself. Dany clearly usurped power, by force, away from the existing legal structure. And now its turns out she has done a shit job of transforming that society, which was her only moral (not legal) justification in the first place.
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How so? Robert pledged fealty to Aerys as his king, Dany pledged nothing to Meereen. Robert jumped over the true heirs (the most common definition of usurper) to take the throne himself. Dany stole no throne in Meereen, because they've had no kings or queens for a thousand years.

Its Aegon the conqueror, not Aegon the usurper.

And fealty is a two way street, a king has a duty to his subjects, something Robb and Stannis, and early Dany, understand. Anyway fealty has nothing to do with it. Breaking fealty makes you a rebel or an oathbreaker or a turn cloak perhaps, but does in no way define the difference between a conqueror and a usurper. And Dany did go back on her oath/word in Astapor, so there you go.
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At the end of the day it is just semantics, and doesn't really matter. After all she will have to "usurp" her own families throne if she wants to be queen.

Yeah so, if she thinks Bob is a usurper, then she is too. If she doesn't think Bob is a usurper, then she is not. It's simple as that. Hypocrisy is Dany's strong trait. I hope she gets rid of it.

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