Kasrith Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I'm not sure we could handle the sheer level of badassery that would come with Victarion riding a dragon. It would be insane. Indeed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzanna Stormborn Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Well did everyone read the new WoW Tyrion chapter? Lots and lots of hints towards Tyrion and Viserion, Tyrion being a Targ and so forth. after reading it, I deduce Tyrion and BBP will be dragon catching/dragon riding very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Eater Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 The white cyvasse dragon ended up at Tyrion's feet Another hint Tyrion will get Viserion. the white dragon had flown back to its lair above Meereen. The green still prowled, soaring in wide circles above the city and the bay on great green wings. The green beast circling above the bay, banking and turning as longships and galleys clashed and burned below him Viserion has flown back to his lair while Rhaegal is flying above the longships, so if the dragonhorn is blown, Rhaegal will likely be the one affected by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted June 7, 2014 Author Share Posted June 7, 2014 The white cyvasse dragon ended up at Tyrion's feet Another hint Tyrion will get Viserion. the white dragon had flown back to its lair above Meereen. The green still prowled, soaring in wide circles above the city and the bay on great green wings. The green beast circling above the bay, bankign and turning as longships and galleys clashed and burned below him Viserion has flown back to his lair while Rhaegal is flying above the longships, so if the dragonhorn is blown, Rhaegal will likely be the one affected by it. Agreed. GRRM cannot be more explicit in his foreshadowing than this. It is as obvious as "kings hiding under Snow" from AGoT. Also Tyrion grabs and throws the dragon to the air, which points he will heal him and make him fly again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batbob45 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Shireen might as well get the stone dragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Shireen might as well get the stone dragon Shrieen may BE the stone dragon. Greyscale = stone, and she has Targ blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzanna Stormborn Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I just had a crazy idea. What if one of the dragons catches greyscale?!!? And turns into a stone dragon, like the stone men?? lol just thought i"d say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I had a crazy idea too. What if the dragons can't be warged? What if the attempt by a child of the forest to warg a dragon 8000 years ago had the reverse effect, allowing a dragon to warg the child of the forest, and creating the first Other? I think that would fit in with the themes of ASOIAF nicely. A dragon is not a slave. Ice and fire are power and agency / free will. One obtaining power necessarily takes free will / agency from someone else, making slavery (and rape) actually important manifestations of the themes of the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted June 10, 2014 Author Share Posted June 10, 2014 I just had a crazy idea. What if one of the dragons catches greyscale?!!? And turns into a stone dragon, like the stone men?? lol just thought i"d say it. I think Viserion might catch pale mare from the corpses he ate in his greed without burning them enough to kill the bacteria. Then he can temporarily turn into a poop dragon. I am serious. Tyrion cared for the Yellow Whale in his sickness, I think he will take care of Viserion as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziriath Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I'd like to see Tyrion riding a dragon but not so much Victarion, I hope Jorah rides Rhaegal. A dark green dragon for green-clad Jorah, and bronze is for First men. What if the dragon-riding ability comes with imprint (the first person (and maybe the second and third too ) seen by the hatchling becomes its parent) and/or with the certain colour the person wears...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Viserys Targaryen IV Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Looks like its shaping up to be Dany on Drogo, Jon on Rhaegal, and Tyrion on Viserion. I think it will be Dany on Drogo, Tyrion on Viserion, and Rhaegal will be stolen. Jon will gain his own dragon, possibly Sheepstealer who I think is at Hardhome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzanna Stormborn Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I think Viserion might catch pale mare from the corpses he ate in his greed without burning them enough to kill the bacteria. Then he can temporarily turn into a poop dragon. I am serious. Tyrion cared for the Yellow Whale in his sickness, I think he will take care of Viserion as well. haha, I guess. Isnt there something about real-dragons not being able to get sick? I know they are completely fireproof. What you said made me LOL though, I tend to think he is wounded in some way and Tyrion will have to help him, but a dragon with the runs? oh that's funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share Posted June 11, 2014 but a dragon with the runs? oh that's funny. I think it befits the fate of Tyrion. While Victarion is soaring with Rhaegal, Tyrion will have to remove the shit under his sick dragon with spades and buckets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzanna Stormborn Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I think it befits the fate of Tyrion. While Victarion is soaring with Rhaegal, Tyrion will have to remove the shit under his sick dragon with spades and buckets. Haha, well that would fit into his story nicely you are right :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 I had a crazy idea too. What if the dragons can't be warged? What if the attempt by a child of the forest to warg a dragon 8000 years ago had the reverse effect, allowing a dragon to warg the child of the forest, and creating the first Other? I think that would fit in with the themes of ASOIAF nicely. A dragon is not a slave. Ice and fire are power and agency / free will. One obtaining power necessarily takes free will / agency from someone else, making slavery (and rape) actually important manifestations of the themes of the series. Intriguing but there's one thing that troubles me about this idea. How does a fire being warging a forest being create an ice being? Sounds rather...impossible, which sounds odd considering our subject matter. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 The white cyvasse dragon ended up at Tyrion's feet Another hint Tyrion will get Viserion. the white dragon had flown back to its lair above Meereen. The green still prowled, soaring in wide circles above the city and the bay on great green wings. The green beast circling above the bay, banking and turning as longships and galleys clashed and burned below him Viserion has flown back to his lair while Rhaegal is flying above the longships, so if the dragonhorn is blown, Rhaegal will likely be the one affected by it. Um, blowing the dragonhorn doesn't seem to make a difference. If Moqorro is right, the dragons are bound to the person who has claimed it in blood (I think that means kill the true owner, like with the Elderwand in HP). I don't think it's necessary to sound the horn at all. But I agree that he is the one most likely to turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Eater Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Um, blowing the dragonhorn doesn't seem to make a difference. If Moqorro is right, the dragons are bound to the person who has claimed it in blood (I think that means kill the true owner, like with the Elderwand in HP). I don't think it's necessary to sound the horn at all. But I agree that he is the one most likely to turn. Why is it necessary to make it a horn that kills people if one only needs to have blood put on the glyphs? Gaining control over a dragon using magical means would likely require a life like most powerful sorceries rooted in fire and blood. The horn likely needs to be blown with the blood of the owner on the glyphs, and the life to pay for the bonding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzanna Stormborn Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Why is it necessary to make it a horn that kills people if one only needs to have blood put on the glyphs? Gaining control over a dragon using magical means would likely require a life like most powerful sorceries rooted in fire and blood. The horn likely needs to be blown with the blood of the owner on the glyphs, and the life to pay for the bonding. yeah that's what I think too. It is a blood sacrifice on the part of the blower, and the reward is a subservient dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Intriguing but there's one thing that troubles me about this idea. How does a fire being warging a forest being create an ice being? Sounds rather...impossible, which sounds odd considering our subject matter. ;) The physics of it doesn't matter, it's the metaphor that's important to magic. Personal agency becomes power if you take away someone else's agency. Fire becomes ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Why is it necessary to make it a horn that kills people if one only needs to have blood put on the glyphs? Gaining control over a dragon using magical means would likely require a life like most powerful sorceries rooted in fire and blood. The horn likely needs to be blown with the blood of the owner on the glyphs, and the life to pay for the bonding. Who said anything about putting blood on the glyphs? I certainly didn't. Death pays for life, not for bonding. Moqorro is the one who said blowing it doesn't bind the dragons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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