Jon Weirgaryen Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Is there anywhere I can find a consolidated history of Westeros and Essos starting right from the Children of the Forest to all the events leading to Robert's rebellion? Basically everything about the events prior to GoT. No. There's no continually written down history from the days of myths to the recordings of the Maesters. But this site has a number of attempts: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=timeline+site%3Awesteros.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Leftwich Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 First post, so please be gentle and all that. 1. Is there something more to the story of Jorah/Lynesse? Jorah says she should have refused him her favor, then that her father should have refused him her hand in marriage. So was there something wrong with her? 2. Did someone (like, say, Black Walder maybe) have something to do with Stevron's death? Since his wound was not thought serious, but he dies three days later. 3. Who was the Knight of Skulls and Kisses? (from the Knight of the Laughing Tree story) Thanks in advance for the answers. 1) I believe Jorah was only thinking back about the disparity between the level of the families (Mormont and Hightower) as to why Lynesse and Lord Hightower should have refused him. And or just plain regret on Jorah's part, with hindsight. (But that is just my opinion.) 2) Possible, but we do not have any facts about it. 3) Ser Richard Lonmouth is the Knight of Skulls and Kisses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarrisa Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 The Starks sigil is a grey direwolf on a field of white. In rereading Game of Thrones, just before Eddard is beheaded, he is described as "dressed in a rich grey velvet doublet with a white wolf sewn on the front in beads, and a grey wool cloak trimmed in fur", which I find interesting. Is there anywhere else in the books where the sigil is reversed?Thanks- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 It's Apple only I believe and it just contains a few bits of info that hasn't been mentioned before. It's out for Android too I've seen it on the play store. Just not for Windows Phone I believe. The Starks sigil is a grey direwolf on a field of white. In rereading Game of Thrones, just before Eddard is beheaded, he is described as "dressed in a rich grey velvet doublet with a white wolf sewn on the front in beads, and a grey wool cloak trimmed in fur", which I find interesting. Is there anywhere else in the books where the sigil is reversed?Thanks- I can't think of anywhere else it's reversed off hand. Robb takes just the wolf's head as his personal sigil. Jon probably could have used it reversed as his personal sigil as "The Bastard of Winterfell" but he joins the Watch instead. One possibility, and I'm just speculating, is that Cersei ordered Ned dressed up with the Stark sigil for what ended up being his execution. Maybe his old clothes were destroyed or lost and they just sewed a wolf on a grey doublet and thought "close enough." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Weirgaryen Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 It's out for Android too I've seen it on the play store. I just checked. It is not on Google Play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Rob said he was going to make sure that people couldn't use Sansa and Arya to claim the North. It is likely that all claims but Jon where removed, but we have NOT SEEN HOW IT IS WORDED. As to any legal challenges, He was an Outlaw as far as Baratheons (Lannisters) cared, so it wouldn't matter to anyone but his followers any way.His followers will care a great deal as will external interested parties. However it's worded it's based in part on a mistake of fact which could nullify the entire proclamation depending on the applicable law and the swords enforcing that law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Rob said he was going to make sure that people couldn't use Sansa and Arya to claim the North. It is likely that all claims but Jon where removed, but we have NOT SEEN HOW IT IS WORDED. As to any legal challenges, He was an Outlaw as far as Baratheons (Lannisters) cared, so it wouldn't matter to anyone but his followers any way. His followers will care a great deal as will external interested parties. However it's worded it's based in part on a mistake of fact which could nullify the entire proclamation depending on the applicable law and the swords enforcing that law. It's all about the winner. Whoever wins gets to decide the importance of Robb's will. Until such times, the people who believe they can gain something from interpreting Robb's will as legal, will most certainly take it as legal. Those who stand to gain more from declaring the will illegal, will declare it illegal. As Lost Melnibonean said, it's not only Robb's followers who will care. There could be others who could gain something from declaring Jon Robb's heir over Sansa and Arya. Another example is the legality (or illegality) of Joffrey. Stannis has declared Joffrey a bastard, which destroys Joff's claim to the throne. Yet, the Tyrells can gain more from supporting Joff's claim, and so they do. Would it have been such that the Tyrells could have gained more from supporting Robb, or Stannis, they would have declared Joff a bastard, just as they did when they supported Renly. However, since Rickon and Bran are still alive, Robb's will, which was based on the news of his brothers deaths, can be annulled by the eventual winner of the Game, even if said winner is a supporter of the North. It all depends on who wins, which information he/she has, and how much honor and tradition is valued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I just checked. It is not on Google Play. Check again? Or wait are you outside the U.S? It's possible I saw one of those knockoff ones, but a quick google turned up this You’ve asked for it, and now it’s here. The A World of Ice and Fire app—a handy, dandy, official and art-filled guide to the novels that Linda and I helped provide the majority of the content of (with oversight from GRRM)—is now available for Android at Google Play (unfortunately, for the time being, it’s US only). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estheros Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 They were foes. Now have another slice of this delicious pork...Wow,thanks:) didnt realize that comment from Coldhand..Thanks for the answers:)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crow's Third Eye Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Check again? Or wait are you outside the U.S? It's possible I saw one of those knockoff ones, but a quick google turned up this In the World of Ice and Fire sub-forum i think someone said it was called by a different name and Ran confirmed they were the same. And that a new update was coming tooETA: it was A Game of Thrones Guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Weirgaryen Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 A Game of Thrones Guide I checked. Not on Google Play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I checked. Not on Google Play. You saw my post right? are you outside the USA? cause it's definitely on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credar Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I'm reading ADWD now and on page 713 of the paperback, there seems to be a printing error with the ink not starting on the first line till halfway through. This is Jon 10 right after "Perhaps R'hllor will vouchsafe me a glimpse of His Grace. A glimpse of some great victory, mayhaps.", with Mel, Jon and Selyse. What is this next line? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I'm reading ADWD now and on page 713 of the paperback, there seems to be a printing error with the ink not starting on the first line till halfway through. This is Jon 10 right after "Perhaps R'hllor will vouchsafe me a glimpse of His Grace. A glimpse of some great victory, mayhaps.", with Mel, Jon and Selyse. What is this next line? Thanks! This should cover it :) The red priestess spoke up. “I must attend my fires, Your Grace. Perhaps R’hllor will vouchsafe me a glimpse of His Grace. A glimpse of some great victory, mayhaps.” “Oh.” Queen Selyse looked stricken. “To be sure … let us pray for a vision from our lord …” “Satin, show Her Grace to her place,” said Jon. Ser Malegorn stepped forward. “I will escort Her Grace to the feast. We shall not require your … steward.” The way the man drew out the last word told Jon that he had been considering saying something else. Boy? Pet? Whore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credar Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 This should cover it :) It did! Thanks! On with the reading I go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoyti_Von_Totiy Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 If 3-eyed-crow is Bloodraven doesn´t it that meen that he is a nights watch deserter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 If 3-eyed-crow is Bloodraven doesn´t it that meen that he is a nights watch deserter? Yes. Though he might not be remembered as such. We know nothing about the circumstances of his disappearance. It's possible he was just taken for dead ala Benjen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoyti_Von_Totiy Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Yes. Though he might not be remembered as such. We know nothing about the circumstances of his disappearance. It's possible he was just taken for dead ala Benjen. Taken for dead? If he´s alive he should report to his Castle Black and continue counting food suplies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crow's Third Eye Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Taken for dead? If he´s alive he should report to his Castle Black and continue counting food suplies.Arguably he is still part of the NW in that he is working to protect the Wall. Also, dragging his tree back to the Wall may prove problematic too :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Taken for dead? If he´s alive he should report to his Castle Black and continue counting food suplies. Yeah in other words he may have just gone ranging and never come back like Benjen. So history wouldn't record him as a deserter, but as someone who died in the line of duty. I dunno what you mean about counting food supplies, to my knowledge he was never mentioned as being a steward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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