sleath56 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Why is it that the Others had their name executively meddled to 'White Walkers' other than as a blatant rip-off of the Walking Dead? Plus it sucks that we won't get to hear pissed off Westerosi say "The Others take you!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyrion Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 The others was omitted likely because of the Lost show, but the white walkers are basically what the northerners and free folk called them anyways in AGOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Shiznit Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Lost's main villains were called "The Others", showrunners wanted to distance their main antagonists from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kienn Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 It's not even clear in the books if the White Walkers and the Others are the same thing. Maybe the show just cut the Others and left in the White Walkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konradsmith Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Because there is no sonic different between Others and others. In a book you can read a capital letter, you can't hear one. It would lead to confusion. Hypothetical GoT: The Others! Viewer: Whaaaaaat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laguna Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I'm quite certain that the Lost writers have read ASoIaF too. Their Others are mysterious indigenous people, belived to have some supernatural abilities. They can't have babies, so they steal them or come up with plots to get them. And as many on the internet have pointed out before me, Lost-Character Sawyer aka James is based on Jaime I guess. You think that in return Sawyer's look inpired NCW's look in the GoT show? And an importent character in Jamie's show-storyline is named Locke. Also D&D seem to be quite taken by Lost's typical episode-cliffhangers (farmer's boys/where are my dragons). By the way: My first post. Hi, you guys! Thanks for this opportunity ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Daddy Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Ahh...lost was inspired by Star Wars all the way. Jack was Luke, Kate was Leia, Sawyer was Han. Then Locke was Obi Wan and Hurley was Chewie. I've never seen anything on LOST to make me think the creators were big ASOIAF fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Tahu Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I don't have much of a problem with the change in theory (Others wasn't a very good name to begin with). The problem is that 'wight' sounds like 'white', so now they have a bunch of viewers that don't know the difference between wights and white walkers (Others). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncle Spayer Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Same reason R'holler is now exclusively Lord of Light, keep it simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Smith Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I always just assumed it was because the term "Other's" would have been very confusing onscreen. Never watched Lost though, so I didn't know that their antagonists were called "Others"; that's probably the main reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User inactive Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I'm quite certain that the Lost writers have read ASoIaF too. Their Others are mysterious indigenous people, belived to have some supernatural abilities. They can't have babies, so they steal them or come up with plots to get them. And as many on the internet have pointed out before me, Lost-Character Sawyer aka James is based on Jaime I guess. You think that in return Sawyer's look inpired NCW's look in the GoT show? And an importent character in Jamie's show-storyline is named Locke. Also D&D seem to be quite taken by Lost's typical episode-cliffhangers (farmer's boys/where are my dragons). By the way: My first post. Hi, you guys! Thanks for this opportunity ;-)Welcome to the forum. Only one problem I'd like to point out with your Lost/GoT character comparison, John Locke was named after the philosopher John Locke, a theme which Lost carries out throughout the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Penry Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 They were actually referred to as WW in the books too. I read that they ousted the other title as it was too reminiscent of Lost, the show runners must have worried that our tiny minds couldn't handle them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seneti Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Lost's main villains were called "The Others", showrunners wanted to distance their main antagonists from them. Because there is no sonic different between Others and others. In a book you can read a capital letter, you can't hear one. It would lead to confusion. Hypothetical GoT: The Others! Viewer: Whaaaaaat? Exactly for those two reasons. Personally, I always found the name "Others" bland, uninteresting and unintentionally funny, mainly because my head canon came up with examples like the one pointed out by Konradsmith. White Walkers on the other hand... now that sounds intriguing and mystical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empress In The North Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I believe Old Nan refers to the White Walkers as "The Others" at one point while telling Bran about them, but he corrects her, saying "The White Walkers". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mother of Mountains Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I believe Old Nan refers to the White Walkers as "The Others" at one point while telling Bran about them, but he corrects her, saying "The White Walkers". It's the opposite, the first reference is part of Old Nan's tale of the Long Night, she refers to them as the White Walkers, Bran then confirms that she means the Others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbossa Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Besides what most people already mentioned, that it would be a problem with phonetics i think their main concern is how scary they would be to the none book readers. The Others are suppose to be beautiful but deadly and they probably wanted to avoid a Avatar type fan base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckal Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Lost's main villains were called "The Others", showrunners wanted to distance their main antagonists from them. Which is, of course, ridiculous reasoning as they are two different shows. They act as if the viewing audiences are plebs and cannot tell the difference between one show and another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boojam Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Which is, of course, ridiculous reasoning as they are two different shows. They act as if the viewing audiences are plebs and cannot tell the difference between one show and another. I agree with this too, LOST had been gone long enough before GOT started. Anyway no one has ever asked D&D, as far as I know, why or if there really has been a name change. Just like nobody has ever asked why the change from Asha to Yara, we only have the speculation of some who think it's not to confuse Asha and Osha, which I think is silly considering it an adult audience watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boojam Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 It's not even clear in the books if the White Walkers and the Others are the same thing. Maybe the show just cut the Others and left in the White Walkers. Good point. George does not set down a definitive definition of what a WW is, what a wight is, as far as we know The Others are in command of the WW who are in command of the wights... and to further confuse thing THE GREAT OTHER is in change of the Others! R'holler is the great enemy of THE GREAT OTHER ... what ever that means! Oddly Carice van Houten used the term THE GREAT OTHER in an interview one time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMR Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 The Others are definitely the same as White Walkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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