The Sunburnt Dornishman Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 And I bet those contracts didn't have due dates in them. Anyway, contracts are only as good as your health!! So long may GRRM remain extremely hale and hearty :) Hear hear!!! On another note it seems like everyone has narrowed down the plan for the next few seasons and the content of them quite well. I'm actually surprised how similar everyone's views are and as such it all seems to make sense now haha. :smug: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adense Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 This is how I see it Season 4 - 2nd half of ASoS + a 1/4th of AFFC/ADWD - 2014 Season 5 - 3/4th AFFC/ADWD + parts from TWoW - 2015 Season 6 - All of the remaining parts from TWoW - 2016Season 7 - 1st half of ADoS - 2017 Season 8 - 2nd half of ADoS - 2018Yes!! This is the only thing that's going to work.I can't believe why some people think they will wasting Season 5 AND season 6 on Feast and Dance, instead of moving along to the actual end-game material in the final two books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Shiznit Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Yes!! This is the only thing that's going to work. I can't believe why some people think they will wasting Season 5 AND season 6 on Feast and Dance, instead of moving along to the actual end-game material in the final two books. A mixture of wishful thinking, delusion and denial I'd wager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
six Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I think we'll get eight although the eight season will be expensive with lots of re-negotiated contracts. Just don't think they can do four books in three seasons. But that's the thing, after they're done with affc and adwd in season 5, they won't be dealing with books any longer. Yes, the story will likely still be what grrm has decided for the books, but there won't be any adapting it will literally be the showrunners writing a season of a tv show. So of course they can condense it in 3 seasons if they want/need to. Imo, not only 8 would be expensive, but we have to consider the actors, too. If Dinklage is contracted for 6 seasons- and please we know Tyrion makes it to the end, so what happens after that? I see 7 seasons, and maybe a bunch of episodes after to wrap it up, like a mini-series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protar Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 But that's the thing, after they're done with affc and adwd in season 5, they won't be dealing with books any longer. Yes, the story will likely still be what grrm has decided for the books, but there won't be any adapting it will literally be the showrunners writing a season of a tv show. So of course they can condense it in 3 seasons if they want/need to. Imo, not only 8 would be expensive, but we have to consider the actors, too. If Dinklage is contracted for 6 seasons- and please we know Tyrion makes it to the end, so what happens after that? I see 7 seasons, and maybe a bunch of episodes after to wrap it up, like a mini-series. Well surely once they get past the hurdle of renegotiating contracts in season 7, it won't be as much of a problem in season 8? Obviously the season two characters will then be at the end of their contract as well so that will need to be renegotiated, but if you can get say Dinklage back for S7 why would S8 be a problem? And for the previously unknown actors (mostly the younger ones) I'd imagine PR would be a big factor. Can you imagine the negative press Kit Harrington or Emilia Clarke would get abandoning the hugely successful show that made them famous in it's final season? Talk about burning your bridges. I think that Game of Thrones will still be making enough money for an 8th season (maybe an extended one) to remain profitable. Even if it does end up making less money than some of the previous seasons the critical reception would probably be enough to warrant a final season. So long as it's making a decent profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 D&D want 8 seasons, they will easily get them. If that was the case, we wouldn't have directors and other producers saying 7. GoT is far more likely than any other show in HBO's history to get to 8 seasons, but it's going to require that there is no flagging between now and the end, and the contract renegotiations don't become too expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protar Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 If that was the case, we wouldn't have directors and other producers saying 7. GoT is far more likely than any other show in HBO's history to get to 8 seasons, but it's going to require that there is no flagging between now and the end, and the contract renegotiations don't become too expensive. I don't think there's much chance of flagging. S4 is pretty much guaranteed to be a big hit. S5 is where things will be a bit trickier, but if AFFC/ADWD are condensed properly it could well become the best season yet, and at the very least the success of S4 will carry it quite a way. S6, 7 and a possible S8 will probably be clear sailing in terms of popularity. Assuming TWOW and ADOS don't suck that is (And I sincerely doubt that). The only problem is the mounting costs, but at this point I think the critical acclaim, plus the ever growing profits will off-set that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyJoe Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Season 5 will surely be a hit because of how great Season 4 will be. It can just ride the coat tails of the previous season. If season 5 sucks, then you might see a decline in season 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
six Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 These predictions on whether the next few seasons will be good based on the previous ones are a bit... well, baseless. I could list several shows which popularity eventually dwindled from a season to another. Just to cite 2, True Blood was super popular for the first 3 seasons and while it's still popular the critics' reception changed and it's not viewed as positively anymore. Sons of Anarchy has been in a similar situation since season 4, which wasn't a great season and also they made one wrong choice that pissed everyone off. You can never tell how a show's critical reception is going to hold. So far everything went well, in part because the stories have been adapted from a really quite great source material. twow and ados haven't been written yet though, grrm can tell b&w the outline of his story all he likes, but it's not really an adaptation anymore. So it's all to be seen how it will work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Cygne Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 These predictions on whether the next few seasons will be good based on the previous ones are a bit... well, baseless. I could list several shows which popularity eventually dwindled from a season to another. Just to cite 2, True Blood was super popular for the first 3 seasons and while it's still popular the critics' reception changed and it's not viewed as positively anymore. Sons of Anarchy has been in a similar situation since season 4, which wasn't a great season and also they made one wrong choice that pissed everyone off. You can never tell how a show's critical reception is going to hold. So far everything went well, in part because the stories have been adapted from a really quite great source material. twow and ados haven't been written yet though, grrm can tell b&w the outline of his story all he likes, but it's not really an adaptation anymore. So it's all to be seen how it will work out. Agreed. Mad Men is another example. Another wrong choice that still pisses everyone off. And I think a lot of the success of Game of Thrones has to do with the source material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hath4 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I think season 5 will be fine, I think some of the new charcters will add some fresh air to the story. it will be more of a set up season, but it will be payed off in season 6 and 7 when they get into wow, which Martin has said will have lots of game changing moments. I think season 8 will be hard because I don't think dos will be done by then. Wow should and I think will get done in time, but don't count on dos. But I think they will be fine through season 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
six Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Mad Men is another example. Another wrong choice that still pisses everyone off.And I think a lot of the success of Game of Thrones has to do with the source material. Yes, most of it. And one thing is adapting the books for tv, and another is writing for tv from a bunch of notes and outlines, because some of twow might have been written but ados is really just an idea atm. I think the tone of the show might be a bit different once b&w are basically creating it from grrm's mind, rather than from actual, finished books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daske Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Adapting from the books up til now has given GoT a massive advantage over lesser shows. But I can't be alone in thinking that after this season it's going to be difficult mainly because the latter books are nowhere in the same league as the earlier ones. But at this point I believe the show to be 'bigger' than the books (heresy maybe!). I don't think it would have any problem standing on its own two feet for 3 or 4 more seasons even if they had to make up the rest from now on from scratch. If it does depart majorly from source I wholly hope they do it to concentrate more time on the existing characters rather than introducing hundreds more new ones from the books even if it means somewhat changing the sketchy outline of the endgame. Less is more and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protar Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Adapting from the books up til now has given GoT a massive advantage over lesser shows. But I can't be alone in thinking that after this season it's going to be difficult mainly because the latter books are nowhere in the same league as the earlier ones. But at this point I believe the show to be 'bigger' than the books (heresy maybe!). I don't think it would have any problem standing on its own two feet for 3 or 4 more seasons even if they had to make up the rest from now on from scratch. If it does depart majorly from source I wholly hope they do it to concentrate more time on the existing characters rather than introducing hundreds more new ones from the books even if it means somewhat changing the sketchy outline of the endgame. Less is more and all that. My worry with the show being forced to stand on it's own two feet is that D+D aren't really very good writers in my opinion. Almost all that is good about the story and writing is from the books and almost all that is bad is invented material. In my opinion anyway. I'm concerned that without the source material and with more inventions the show will take a considerable turn for the worse, in terms of writing, plotting and gratuity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
six Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 My worry with the show being forced to stand on it's own two feet is that D+D aren't really very good writers in my opinion. Almost all that is good about the story and writing is from the books and almost all that is bad is invented material. In my opinion anyway. I'm concerned that without the source material and with more inventions the show will take a considerable turn for the worse, in terms of writing, plotting and gratuity. This. If we consider some of the material b&w come up with we're talking cheesy romances, dick jokes, torture porn, soft porn just to cite a few. There's the risk to go towards more cheap entertainment which isn't quite on on the same level to the book adaptation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Fixit Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 torture porn, soft porn just to cite a few. I, for one, love porn -- torture, soft, or hard. Bring it on, I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protar Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I, for one, love porn -- torture, soft, or hard. Bring it on, I say. But is it what people are watching Game of Thrones for? I really don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Fixit Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 But is it what people are watching Game of Thrones for? I really don't think so. I was joking. ^_^ (...) Or was I? :leer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hath4 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I really don't see this being an issue as I think Martin will get wow out by the start of production of season 6. That book will probably form seasons 6 and 7 sense it is going to be similar to storm of swords in size and big moments. season 8 will be the hard one because I just don't see Martin getting out dos by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protar Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I was joking. ^_^ (...) Or was I? :leer: Well it's hard to tell on these forums. There's so many people defending D+D you never can tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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