Guest Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Somehow I got it in my head that there were only 8 episodes in S1...probably because 8, but I'm a fool. I now see that there were 12 on IMDB. Happy to see it got renewed; now I need to actually finish S1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karaddin Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 So they just wanted to wait until 8.8. to announce the renewal? https://twitter.com/netflix/status/630030865054109698 I saw a separate tweet from Jaime Clayton with Miguel in a very short clip, Freema was adorable in that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Somehow I got it in my head that there were only 8 episodes in S1...probably because 8, but I'm a fool. I now see that there were 12 on IMDB. Happy to see it got renewed; now I need to actually finish S1. That is priceless. If you've been reading some of the season 1 spoilers you must have been scratching your head! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyoshi Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Somehow I got it in my head that there were only 8 episodes in S1...probably because 8, but I'm a fool. I now see that there were 12 on IMDB. Happy to see it got renewed; now I need to actually finish S1. Somehow I envy you. I wish I still had a few episodes to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecan Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 I finished the entire series a couple of days ago. I binge watched it over about a three-day period. It was enjoyable enough to keep watching but very, very flawed. The biggest problem I think is the organizing principle of telling 8 separate stories right from the very beginning. It would have made more sense to introduce the characters more slowly - start with two or three or four and then bring the others along in subsequent episodes. And the trans hacker/blogger chick is annoying as hell. Can we arrange a Red Wedding for her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyoshi Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 ^^I felt that way after my first watch but on my second run I thought it made sense to introduce them they way it was done. The only one who didn't really affect the others in the beginning is Lito. But who would want Lito to go? Certainly not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 I am caught up now. That ending made much more sense! Luckily for my foolish self I'd really just skimmed the thread and didn't get spoilered much on anything. Wolfy's storyline wasn't my favorite overall, but I did think those last two action scenes, the parking lot and the house, were great. Maybe I just loved that house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sci-2 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 glad this got renewed. things they could fix and/or improve: -Kala's story is boring and it's not clear to me how her stuff with Rajan isn't her own fault. -All the stories need to be a little less obvious in their cultural portrayals. I'd love to get a deeper examination of the different cultures beyond Africa->AIDS, Korea->Ninja, India->Ganesha+Marriage, etc. -Nail down some of the rules for Sense8. I think the limitations can be what make a power interesting. When you can't just amp a power up out-of-nowhere it becomes more interesting to see how it gets used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon AS Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 -Kala's story is boring and it's not clear to me how her stuff with Rajan isn't her own fault. The fact that it is her fault is what makes it such a problem. She's let things go way, way too far in an effort to please everyone, and there isn't a way out without hurting anyone. -All the stories need to be a little less obvious in their cultural portrayals. I'd love to get a deeper examination of the different cultures beyond Africa->AIDS, Korea->Ninja, India->Ganesha+Marriage, etc. True on the one hand, on the other Wolfgang's story is probably the most generic one (in the sense that you could set it in basically any country in the world and wouldn't have to change anything except the names of the characters), and it's also the least interesting to me. -Nail down some of the rules for Sense8. I think the limitations can be what make a power interesting. When you can't just amp a power up out-of-nowhere it becomes more interesting to see how it gets used. So far the rules seem to be: those inside a cluster can visit and share when all involved are conscious; sensates from different clusters can visit if they've made eye contact, though this may actually be a bit more invasive than run-of-the-mill visiting, but maybe that's just a function of it being an outsider cutting in. Spoilers for season finale [spoiler] I'm guessing Will won't be of much use for a while in season 2, given they will have to keep him sedated or shoot him up with whatever Angelica was using. I wonder if even killing Whispers would get rid of his presence in Will's head completely. Angelica seems to stick around in the background, but then she "birthed" the cluster. I wonder where everyone will go in their indiviual stories. -Riley will have to take care of Will. I hope they've got something interesting planned here, this could get really boring. -Wolfgang will have to go on the run, no way his entire extended family and their henchmen get slaughtered without it being traced back to him somehow. -Sun will still be stuck in prison, only now she'll want to get out. But there doesn't seem to be an easy mechanic for that to happen. Maybe Nomi will have to do some magical hacking. -Speaking of: Nomi should be on the run, too, from the conspiracy in her case. Though as its influence apparently stretches into law enforcement agencies there isn't that big of a difference to Wolfgang's situation. -Lito will have to deal with coming out/being outed, I guess? I'm not really worried here, his story was as disconnected from the rest of the group as Wolfgang's in the first season, but a hell of a lot more entertaining. -Kala: those wedding shenanigans have to get resolved quickly, else it'll be just a retread of the season 1 story. Maybe she'll approach Will's problem from a pharmacological perspective? -Capheus ended in a pretty good place, particularly compared to the rest of the gang, and there aren't really any dangling plot threads here. This story has probably the most freedom to go in a completely new direction. [/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 glad this got renewed. things they could fix and/or improve: -Kala's story is boring and it's not clear to me how her stuff with Rajan isn't her own fault. -All the stories need to be a little less obvious in their cultural portrayals. I'd love to get a deeper examination of the different cultures beyond Africa->AIDS, Korea->Ninja, India->Ganesha+Marriage, etc. -Nail down some of the rules for Sense8. I think the limitations can be what make a power interesting. When you can't just amp a power up out-of-nowhere it becomes more interesting to see how it gets used. I think the pharmaceutical company her fiance now owns will become important. I agree that a lot of things seem to be her own fault (or the fiance not realizing she is unsure) what isnt hokey is the fact the fiance has yet to turn out evil I agree the stories could benefit from being a less in your face with stereotypes. Hopefully that will improve. I think the limitations have been made fairly clearly. They can only share within a cluster. They can only visit other clusters after eye contact has been established. I certainly hope we get more info on this type of stuff as the show goes along. My personal feeling is that more of the stories will be connected to the big picture [spoiler] Riley, Will and Nomi [/spoiler] while others will maintain the "slice of (often bizarre) life - the other 5. Then there's Kyoshi and myself with the notion we'll see other members of this cluster [spoiler] the missing girl that Will met as a child is almost certainly a sensate and may even have been one of them [/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Double post but while I'm here RE Jon's spoilers [spoiler] I think Kala will magic up a potion to let Will go under Whispers radar without being unconscious. Otherwise it'll be a waste of the actor if that goes on more than a few episodes. My question is how Whispers isn't going to be tracking down Will, Riley and Nomi anyway. He doesn't need to be inside their heads to do that. Pretty sure wolfgang will be on the run. He put Felix in a secret hospital just for that reason. Could be interesting if he carries out his plan of s trip to India. Sun could go prison drama although I'd think Netflix had that covered already. She weirdly seems at peace there so throwing her out could be more problematic. Capheus - it would get tiring if he's always mixed up in some gang-war stuff. Maybe have him use his heroic status to get caught up in politics? Lito - bound to be the fallout of his coming out. It could be anything as long as Lito and his posse are involved! He's the one character I'd like to remain separate from the big plot. [/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon AS Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 [spoiler] Yeah, drugging Will is at best a way to delay pursuit. Whispers knows all about Nomi, Riley and Will he needs to track them or possibly force them to come to him by using their family and friends as leverage. I'm thinking he might not be along for the long haul. BPO itself might also be replaced by another antagonistic organisation. Sun was at peace until her brother murdered their father. She'll want to do something about that. [/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkash Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Well, I must be the only one wishing Lito gets more involved in the main plot. I liked that his story was disconected from the others, but I'd like to know how he exactly takes and aprehend the cluster, cause he's the one whom we know less about his interpretation of what happens to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felice Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 I think the limitations have been made fairly clearly. They can only share within a cluster. And only when everyone involved is awake, and presumably only when the guest is free to neglect their own body. Sun seemed to be pretty good at dividing her attention in episode 3, but possibly her own opponent just wasn't that much of a challenge? Will has a bit more trouble with the driving earlier, and he's just visiting, not sharing. One big unanswered question is to what extent they can draw on each other's skills subconsciously; language is obviously transferred very easily; can others in the cluster learn to make use of say Sun's fighting skills in the same way, without requiring her personal attention? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewJ Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 A couple of thoughts on Will and Whispers. Do we know what exact information Whispers has access to from Will? I'm thinking just what he can see or hear (or smell, feel, taste, I guess - his senses). But not his thoughts. At first I was thinking Will just needs to be blindfolded when being transported anywhere - he doesn't need to be drugged. And he can be perfectly free to interract with the others while indoors. But then I thought - even when he's out and about, how difficult would it be for Whispers to work out Will's location just from what he can see? Doesn't one city street look much like any other - or one country road look like another? And even if Whispers could work out what city he was in ("Hey look! The Statue of Liberty" or "Hmm... that van says Bob Roberts Florists - let me google it"), it would still be hard for him to know the exact location. Will would just need to be careful about looking at street signs, especially around wherever he's staying. Riley might need to blindfold him whenever they get near to where they are staying. Second thought - So Whispers can visit Will at any time now. But I assume that sword cuts both ways - and Will can visit Whispers too? I expect that to come into play a lot as season 2 progresses. (Did he do so in the finale already? I don't believe so - but I could just be forgetting). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sci-2 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I definitely think Whispers will have to contend with Will in his mind as well. But it's not clear to me how much Will knows about the others. He knows each person is in a particular country, possible city - like it shouldn't be hard to kill Kala, Lito, Sun, or Capheus. Riley, Wolfgang and Nomi seem more on the the run tho? As such Will is going to have to do something, or all the others are going to have to go on the run before S2 ends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 [spoiler] It would be interesting if the dead parents were possible sensates - although it could be a recessive mutation where neither parent has the ability while their children could. I'd think a remaining parent would recognise the odd behaviour if their partner had been a sensate. I could imagine Kala's dad being one though :) [/spoiler] [spoiler] Riley's mother (I.e. The dead parent) was presumably not a sensate herself, since she took Riley to the research facility for genetic testing, where Yrsa identified her as a sensate. Presumably she (and by extension the research facility) would have realised if Riley's mother was a sensate right? [/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 THERE'RE GENERAL SEASON 1 SPOILERS HERE! Well, I must be the only one wishing Lito gets more involved in the main plot. I liked that his story was disconected from the others, but I'd like to know how he exactly takes and aprehend the cluster, cause he's the one whom we know less about his interpretation of what happens to him. I'm fine with Lito being involved via sharing, etc but I do think it would be a mistake to have all the characters caught up in a conspiracy plot. That kind of stunt is a last season move. I think the show is just as successful for the "down to earth" stories as the sci-fi. It would be a mistake to drive a good chunk of the audience away by season 2. But I'm all for him helping out via the mindscape. And only when everyone involved is awake, and presumably only when the guest is free to neglect their own body. Sun seemed to be pretty good at dividing her attention in episode 3, but possibly her own opponent just wasn't that much of a challenge? Will has a bit more trouble with the driving earlier, and he's just visiting, not sharing. One big unanswered question is to what extent they can draw on each other's skills subconsciously; language is obviously transferred very easily; can others in the cluster learn to make use of say Sun's fighting skills in the same way, without requiring her personal attention? That scene was interesting with Sun as it suggests that when a switch occurs the other person is then controlling that body. We saw Capheus in the boxing ring but he didn't seem to do the fighting on either end. I'd put this down to being instinctual - martial arts get to the point where it's more like muscle memory than thinking about your actions so maybe Sun can split the skills based on the threat. That or her body still remembers how to act? I definitely think Whispers will have to contend with Will in his mind as well. But it's not clear to me how much Will knows about the others. He knows each person is in a particular country, possible city - like it shouldn't be hard to kill Kala, Lito, Sun, or Capheus. Riley, Wolfgang and Nomi seem more on the the run tho? As such Will is going to have to do something, or all the others are going to have to go on the run before S2 ends? I would have thought "indian woman somewhere in a city in India" is a small needle in a big haystack. It's not like she's involved in anything that attracts attention until [spoiler] she steals some plot-drugs for Will? [/spoiler]. Unless Lito has another "breakdown" on TV I can't see him doing anything that may betray him. I agree we'll get Whispers trying to dig around to see the faces of the other cluster siblings - Lito is screwed if that happens. Will. Riley and Nomi are the easiest targets for him, if he gets them he can potentially find the others via them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkash Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I would have thought "indian woman somewhere in a city in India" is a small needle in a big haystack. It's not like she's involved in anything that attracts attention until Like "bus driver" in Nairobi... quite vague when you think about it ! ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sci-2 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I guess it depends on how big the conspiracy is. It's been a few weeks since I binged it but it seemed like the conspiracy is pretty extensive? Once you know someone's city, occupation, and face is it that impossible to find them given what we saw of the conspiracy's power in S1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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