Shadrich Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I was just trying to figure out who Ser Shadrich really is. Quite a few people don't even pay attention to Ser Shadrich!So to those who don't remember who he is - he's the sellsword in AFFC that first meets Brienne, and tells her he is looking for Sansa, and then is seen near the end of AFFC, in Sansa's (Alayne) chapter. He's described as arrogant, sharp-witted and skilled at arms. This leads to me think that he already knows that Alayne = Sansa. I think he is going to be important in TWoW, or atleast trigger something important. Anyway, I tried to see if he is something more than just a sellsword and a passing character. 1. Varys' AgentPROS:+Shadrich says that he hopes to get a reward from Varys+Varys old spy network was known as "Little Mice" and they were known to be small and quick+Varys needs SansaCONS:-Varys is 'gone' (but yes, Shadrich doesn't know that)-At first I thought Varys might need Sansa to marry him to Aegon - but now Aegon is likely to marry someone else 2. Cersei's AgentPROS:+Shadrich needs a rewardCONS:-Cersei cares more about capturing Tyrion. I doubt he would get much of a reward from her anyway-He would have just said he works for Cersei 3. Secret ManderlyPROS:+White Mouse / Rat Cook parallel+The River in Shadrich's sigil could be the Mander+White Mouse with Red Eyes could refer to Old Gods, and his Knighthood to the Seven - similar to Ser Bartimus+Wyman is trying to get one Stark back - why not another?+He arrives to Vale with Ser Morgarth - and Garth is a name from the Reach+Wyman is clearly very secret-ish about his missions - this could be another oneCONS:-He's small, whereas Manderly family members are described as big (not just fat) 4. Howland ReedPROS:+He's small+White Mouse = Old Gods+Wants to save Ned's daughter+Both were described to be good at armsCONS:-He's too cocky and arrogant. I don't imagine Howland to be someone like this. 5. Lysa's and Littlefinger's sonPROS:+He's small - like Littlefinger+He's cocky and arrogant - like LF+He's got orange hair - similar to Lysa (though not the same)+He's with Littlefinger nowCONS:-Lysa supposedly had an abortion-More insignificant to his need of saving/kidnapping Sansa than other options 6. Stannis's agentPROS: +He fought for Stannis at the Blackwater+Stannis inspires loyalty+Stannis needs StarksCONS:-They're far from each other to communicate (unless of course Shadrich got away with Stannis after Blackwater) 7. BlackfishPROS:+Wants to save SansaCONS:-As does a lot of people-Blackfish would definitely be recognised-Blackfish is old, grey-haired, and not at all like a sellsword 8. A RedwynePROS:+He's got orange hair - and I think Redwynes are the only House to have been described as having orange hair+Could be working for Tyrells to get Sansa backCONS:-Doesn't seem too convincing - Redwynes are too insignificant to go after Sansa imho 9. Just a sellswordPROS:+Sometimes a tree is just a treeCONS:-Appears twice, in two different important PoV chapters-Way to described to be just a passing character 10. Darklyn/DarkePROS:+of the Shady Glen = Darklyn/Darke+Shadrich was first seen near Duskendale+Darkes are said to have survived after the defiance+Ser Donnel of Duskendale was described as having Red hairCONS:-number 9 11. Working with the Elder brotherPROS:+Ser Morgarth = Elder Brother - The theory+It works with him being a Darklyn/Darke+Both Shadrich and the Elder Brother met Brienne before - and all are after SansaCONS:-number 9-Elder Brother might be working on his own 12. Secret TargaryenBecause everyone else is. And also: he could be the giant that Sansa slaysPROS:+"I'm being enough where it counts wench"CONS:-Well, he's small. Tyrion is small too, but he was referred as the "giant". To conclude, I think either number 1 or number 9 is the most likely, but I really like the idea of him being linked to the Manderlys. Also son of LF and Lysa somewhat works too - but I think it doesn't really fit the story that way. Also I think it's quite possible he could be a Darklyn descendant, or a Darke, or working with the Elder Brother (or both). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Like Davos Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Bronn was "just a sellsword ". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wight knight Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Very nice. My guess would be 9 as well. But if not it looks like you thought of all other options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HODOR! HODOR!! Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 There's definitely something intriguing about him that makes it plausible he could be more than he seems. I think he'll end up just being a just a hedge knight. Now Ser Morgarth, on the other hand, is my pick to do something important. I read a great theory on here that he's actually the elder brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light a wight tonight Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I think he may be from House Darklyn of Duskendale (Ser Shadrich of the Shady Glen). I thought I saw a reference to a Lord Darklyn having orange hair in The Mystery Knight, but can't find it now. Memory may be playing tricks. That House was supposedly destroyed after the Defiance but there might have been survivors. There are related families in that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sertravisredbeard Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I'm thinking Shadrich is just one of the probably dozens of sellswords that Varys spread word to about bounties for finding Sansa. He's one of the smarter ones, since he ended up in the Vale, guessing that one of Sansa's only living relatives might be an endpoint for a teen on the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WierWood Wolf Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 9 is what I believe. A sellsword trying to make a name and some coin. Isn't Shadrich known as the Mad Mouse? If so I love the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrich Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 I think he may be from House Darklyn of Duskendale (Ser Shadrich of the Shady Glen). I thought I saw a reference to a Lord Darklyn having orange hair in The Mystery Knight, but can't find it now. Memory may be playing tricks. That House was supposedly destroyed after the Defiance but there might have been survivors. There are related families in that area. Yeah, it could be that as well. Darkes are said to still live. I'll add it to the list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jet199 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Also why is it spelled Shadrick in the back of the book and Shadrich in the text? I don't think it is a mistake as it is in both AFFC and ADWD so they had plenty of time to get it right. Is it a clue or just Brienne and Sansa being an unreliable narrators? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Roberto Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I think he may be from House Darklyn of Duskendale (Ser Shadrich of the Shady Glen). I thought I saw a reference to a Lord Darklyn having orange hair in The Mystery Knight, but can't find it now. Memory may be playing tricks. That House was supposedly destroyed after the Defiance but there might have been survivors. There are related families in that area. Not really, he's just mentioned. "From Maidenpool had come Lord Mooton, from Raventree Lord Blackwood, from Duskendale Lord Darklyn. The royal demenses about King’s Landing sent forth Hayfords, Rosbys, (...)" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrich Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Not really, he's just mentioned. "From Maidenpool had come Lord Mooton, from Raventree Lord Blackwood, from Duskendale Lord Darklyn. The royal demenses about King’s Landing sent forth Hayfords, Rosbys, (...)" Yeah, I found that as well. But also, when going through the Hedge Knight, I found Ser Donnel of Duskendale - who was described as having Red hair beard. And also come to think about it, didn't Dontos Hollard have red hair? And also I remember something about their noses being described as similar to each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Wolf Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Varys sent him. Sansa will find out and use Shadrich to feed information about LF to Varys. That's how Sansa will take down LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joluoto2 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 A Sellsword smelling the sweet scent of a fat paycheck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrich Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 There's definitely something intriguing about him that makes it plausible he could be more than he seems. I think he'll end up just being a just a hedge knight. Now Ser Morgarth, on the other hand, is my pick to do something important. I read a great theory on here that he's actually the elder brother I've just read the theory. It really does fit.I think if that is the case, Shadrich is in league with the Elder Brother, and is aware of his plan (if the Elder Brother has one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melx Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Varys doing to LF same thing LF has done to Tyrion & Cersie :plant sellsword near to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lykos Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 I think he has a connection to Marq Piper (maybe a cousin or bastard brother ) and is loyal to the Tullys (compare sigils, Mad Mouse - House Tully ). I think the shady glen is near Wendish Town. So a variation of 11. and 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 9. Just a sellsword PROS: +Sometimes a tree is just a tree CONS: -Appears twice, in two different important PoV chapters -Way to described to be just a passing character This. He is a typical sellsword who can sell anything for gold. I think after Sansa kills LF and decides to unite with her brother Rickon, she will trust Shadrich to take her North. (surprise - this will be the first time Sansa puts her trust in the wrong people!) However, he will betray her and take her to KL and sell her to Cersei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmnomnomPomelo Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 He is Rhaegar, it is known. Joking, I think he's only a hedgeknight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petyr's Little Finger Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 1 or 9 is what I think. He knows that Sansa is a wanted fugitive and he probably wants his reward. He is looking for Sansa and he arrives at the Vale, he isnt there because GRRM couldn't think of any new names, he is there for a reason, he might not recognise Alayne= Sansa straightaway but he will be important in WoW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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