Mithras Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 GRRM is a different kind of writer. He wants the readers to solve the puzzles he created. He sometimes uses unreliable narrators. His characters can be ignorant, cheating or lying. GRRM does not explain everything plainly in words. He implies some of them heavily or mildly. So in order to get to the truth, we must be careful. That is far more important when dealing with great conspirators or known liars. We can understand GRRM’s style better with this quote: Jaime handed him the ring of keys. “I gave you the truth. You owe me the same. Did you do it? Did you kill him?”The question was another knife, twisting in his guts. “Are you sure you want to know?” asked Tyrion. “Joffrey would have been a worse king than Aerys ever was. He stole his father’s dagger and gave it to a footpad to slit the throat of Brandon Stark, did you know that?”“I . . . I thought he might have.”“Well, a son takes after his father. Joff would have killed me as well, once he came into his power. For the crime of being short and ugly, of which I am so conspicuously guilty.”“You have not answered my question.”“You poor stupid blind crippled fool. Must I spell every little thing out for you? Very well. Cersei is a lying whore, she’s been fucking Lancel and Osmund Kettleblack and probably Moon Boy for all I know. And I am the monster they all say I am. Yes, I killed your vile son.” Tyrion answers Jaime’s question in the end but that is a lie. He wants Jaime to use his head and warns him about Cersei the lying whore. Like Tyrion, GRRM does not spell every little thing out for us. He even gives us many lies as facts, most of them are not as obvious as the one Tyrion said above. Cersei is a liar. Worse, she lies to herself when the ugly truth is unbearable for her. She whitewashes herself all the time. In her POVs, we don’t see any confession about how she killed Melara but it is heavily implied that she pushed her to the well she died. In this thread, I want to explore the lies Cersei told to others or herself, which should enable us to understand more about the obvious or canon information related to her. “He saw us,” the woman said shrilly.“So he did,” the man said.Bran’s fingers started to slip. He grabbed the ledge with his other hand. Fingernails dug into unyielding stone. The man reached down. “Take my hand,” he said. “Before you fall.”Bran seized his arm and held on tight with all his strength. The man yanked him up to the ledge. “What are you doing?” the woman demanded.The man ignored her. He was very strong. He stood Bran up on the sill. “How old are you, boy?”“Seven,” Bran said, shaking with relief. His fingers had dug deep gouges in the man’s forearm. He let go sheepishly.The man looked over at the woman. “The things I do for love,” he said with loathing. He gave Bran a shove. Before Jaime pushed Bran out of the window, he looked at Cersei. He loathed the act but still pushed Bran out of the window. Cersei is known to make her point without saying the words. There is another example of this. “Yes,” he [Pycelle] wimpered, “yes, Colemon was purging, so I sent him away. The queen needed Lord Arryn dead, she did not say so, could not, Varys was listening, always listening, but when I looked at her I knew. It was not me who gave him the poison, though, I swear it.” Now let us see the first time Jaime and Cersei talking about Bran. “I’m not ashamed of loving you, only of the things I’ve done to hide it. That boy at Winterfell . . .”“Did I tell you to throw him out the window? If you’d gone hunting as I begged you, nothing would have happened. But no, you had to have me, you could not wait until we returned to the city.” Cersei not only lies, but also puts the blame on Jaime to make him ashamed of himself more. She definitely wanted Bran dead. She definitely said this to Jaime without saying the words. Jaime looked at her and understood it just like Pycelle understood that Jon Arryn must die. And Cersei denies them all. Cersei admits that she lied to Jaime a thousand times. “Dwarfs don’t lie, is that what you think?”“Not to me. No more than you would.”“You great golden fool. He’s lied to you a thousand times, and so have I.” We know that Cersei is a liar and her promises worth shit. “You talk about Aerys, Grandfather, but you were scared of him.”“Joffrey, apologize to your grandfather,” said Cersei.“Why should I? Everyone knows it’s true. My father won all the battles. He killed Prince Rhaegar and took the crown, while your father was hiding under Casterly Rock.” The boy gave his grandfather a defiant look. “A strong king acts boldly, he doesn’t just talk.”“Father, I am sorry,” Cersei said, when the door was shut. “Joff has always been willful, I did warn you . . .”“There is a long league’s worth of difference between willful and stupid. ‘A strong king acts boldly?’ Who told him that?”“Not me, I promise you,” said Cersei. “Most like it was something he heard Robert say . . .”“The part about you hiding under Casterly Rock does sound like Robert.” Tyrion didn’t want Lord Tywin forgetting that bit.“Yes, I recall now,” Cersei said, “Robert often told Joff that a king must be bold.” She was obviously lying here. She was desperate enough to base her lie on to Tyrion’s trolling attempt. I would like to see more of Cersei’s lies like these if you have any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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