Fragile Bird Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I need to get a copy of tPatQ, (lol, gave it as a present at Christmas, but no one gave it to me) but in the meantime, can someone tell me if Rhaenyra was dead or alive when she was fed to the dragon, and if she was dead, who actually killed her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I need to get a copy of tPatQ, (lol, gave it as a present at Christmas, but no one gave it to me) but in the meantime, can someone tell me if Rhaenyra was dead or alive when she was fed to the dragon, and if she was dead, who actually killed her? She was alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I never understood the title A Dance with Dragons. I can't see how it's relevant to the overall story of the book. The other titles seem rather obvious to me. They all refer to a theme which goes through (almost) all storylines, but I can't see that with Dance. I suppose you could relate it to Dany's and Ageon's storylines, and the storylines connected to them: Selmy, Quentyn, Victarion, JonCon and Tyrion. But I don't see how the title refers to Theon, Jon, Sam, Arya, Sansa, Asha and the rest in Westeros. So, in short, can someone explain how the title A Dance with Dragons refers to the content of the book?The Dragons are Daenerys, Jon, and Aegon. I believe the George expected to be farther along with their dancing by book four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Is it well believed that Shella Whent is dead? If she is alive, is that a big deal?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Is it well believed that Shella Whent is dead? If she is alive, is that a big deal?? She died, though I don't believe we know exactly how. But one of the characters does mentions it once that she died. And no, it most likely isn't a big deal.. She didn't hold Harrenhal anymore anyway. In some theories she could possibly play a very tiny role, but she had no role left in anything that we know for certain.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 When the Hound and Arya go to the RW, doesn't he pretend to be coming from the Whents? I don't think they have a future role they w(h)ent away, in GRRM terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 When the Hound and Arya go to the RW, doesn't he pretend to be coming from the Whents? I don't think they have a future role they w(h)ent away, in GRRM terms.Yes. And the men they meet chide him for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 She died, though I don't believe we know exactly how. But one of the characters does mentions it once that she died. And no, it most likely isn't a big deal.. She didn't hold Harrenhal anymore anyway. In some theories she could possibly play a very tiny role, but she had no role left in anything that we know for certain..I think its LF who mentions she is dead. I do wonder how she died though. I suppose its one of those little things we will never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I remember Cat thinking about Lady Whent living in only part of the castle, because the place was so huge. And then she had to give up the castle to the Lannisters, and then later LF says she's died. That could be true, because she has no heirs and she can be an example of yet another House that dies out or is extinguished. On the other hand, she may have disappeared to join the rebels in the Riverlands somewhere. Ser Jaime goes to Harrenhal and notes there are only three members of her household left, but does not mention Lady Whent herself in his POV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 The most significant person from the Whent household is Ben Blackthumb... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryagonnakill#2 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Lady When held Harrenhall, therefore we can be reasonably certain that she is dead, as she is not Arya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 During the Red Wedding, it sounds as if Lady Whent is still alive.However, Petyr Baelish tells Sansa at the Eyrie in Feast somewhere towards the middle: That seemed to amuse him. "Has someone made a song about Gregor Clegane dying of a poisoned spear thrust? Or about the sellsword before him, whose limbs Ser Gregor removed a joint at a time? That one took the castle from Ser Amory Lorch, who received it from Lord Tywin. A bear killed one, your dwarf the other. Lady Whent’s died as well, I hear. Lothstons, Strongs, Harroways, Strongs... Harrenhal has withered every hand to touch it." Indicating that she died in between. It isn't stated how she died, but it seems that she is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I so dislike it whenever someone dies and no one reports seeing the body... I am making a list. Lady Whent. Syrio Forel. Septon Chayle. Feel free to send me more. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Septon Chayle. Wasn't he thrown down a well? There was no virtually no chance of anyone ever seeing his body, and he's certainly dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Lol, there's an echo in here. There are strong hints The Hooded Man is the septon. ETA: Hence my comment, beware of missing bodies. :) (I actually believe Syrio is dead and is not Jaqen, and Lady Whent seems to be too minor to be one of the missing dead, although I wonder what GRRM has in mind for the Hooded Man) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mychel_Redfort Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Jojen saw him dead, it's gonna be hard to find a way around that ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 So that I do not monopolize this thread with stories about Chayle, here is the link to the theory, Septon Chayle is the Hooded Man. I am convinced. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyz Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Where can I find all the WoW sample chapters? Or do I have to search them up individually for myself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I so dislike it whenever someone dies and no one reports seeing the body... I am making a list. Lady Whent. Syrio Forel. Septon Chayle. Feel free to send me more. :) Gerion, Raynald Westerling, (Do Benjen and Stonesnake count)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Where can I find all the WoW sample chapters? Or do I have to search them up individually for myself? Theon I, also to be found in several paperback versions of aDwD Arianne II summary - the first part of the chapter can be found here Summaries of Barristan I and II - Barristan I can now be found in US versions of the paperback of Dance Summaries (short) of Victarion I and Tyrion I Tyrion II was released on the app today. The first page of that can be found here I don't believe there is anything else at the moment.. In addition, we know that Arianne I contains a conversation between Doran and Arianne, before she starts her travels. Should anyone be able to see the Tyrion chapter on the app, I can't get the app and I'd love to read the chapter :) Or read a very very very very very detailed summary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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